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SpaceMonkey · Feb 4, 2006 , 01:35 AM

Good episode this week. I'm getting REALLY sick of flashbacks though.

Chuckit · Feb 4, 2006 , 01:48 AM

During this episode, I kept flashing back to previous shows that didn't completely drop what was happening every five seconds for no apparent reason.

scottiB · Feb 4, 2006 , 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by meelk

bleh. this whole episode wanted to be Space: Above and Beyond ep 1x16 "The Angriest Angel", where McQueen has to take out the ace Chig pilot. That ep. of S:A&B was WAAAAY better than this Galactica tho.

Agreed. This BSG ep tried twice as hard to be half as effective. Too much Sturm und Starbuck. That Kat chick is very annoying--her two acting forms are shriek and shriek louder and faster. I've found her voice irritating since "Hand of God" ("Chuckles bought it!")

I actually preferred last week's ep to this. Meh-minus

Dale Sorel · Feb 4, 2006 , 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by scottiB

I actually preferred last week's ep to this. Meh-minus

Wow... just wow

RAILhead · Feb 4, 2006 , 11:15 AM

Sucked!!11!

greenamp · Feb 4, 2006 , 12:50 PM

I dunno I think I'm too much of a BSG fanboy, because I thought this episode was really good. Kat is annoying as hell, but she's supposed to be. You were supposed to wanna deck her to feel what Starbuck was going through.

The humanizing of the Cylon raiders was very interesting I thought, especially Scar.

goMac · Feb 4, 2006 , 12:57 PM

We're just in the lull before the next big cylon strike.

ThinkInsane · Feb 4, 2006 , 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

bleh. this whole episode wanted to be Space: Above and Beyond ep 1x16 "The Angriest Angel", where McQueen has to take out the ace Chig pilot. That ep. of S:A&B was WAAAAY better than this Galactica tho.

That was my first thought too, the Cylons have a Chiggy Von Richthofen.

I did really like the idea that Raiders are living, sentient beings that get resurrected just like the humanoid Cylons. A fighting pit bull wrapped in a crunchy metal shell with cannons and a rocket up its ass. I cybernetic machine that not only feels, but hates, wants to survive, and knows that with the resurrection ship gone, it must turn to animal cunning and ruthlessness to insure it's own survival. To me, that's the far and away coolest concept this show has come up with to date.

Now, my only question is, when did they find all this out about the Raiders? About them being sentient? Like TETENAL, I wasn't too impressed with the miniseries, so I didn't bother with the show until the end of season one (I mean the very end), and then I got hooked. So was this something they discovered in season one? I didn't recognize the scenes they showed in the "Previously on..." opening, so did I miss something this season, or was it something from season one? I guess I have to go pick up season one on DVD this weekend.

greenamp · Feb 4, 2006 , 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane

That was my first thought too, the Cylons have a Chiggy Von Richthofen.

I did really like the idea that Raiders are living, sentient beings that get resurrected just like the humanoid Cylons. A fighting pit bull wrapped in a crunchy metal shell with cannons and a rocket up its ass. I cybernetic machine that not only feels, but hates, wants to survive, and knows that with the resurrection ship gone, it must turn to animal cunning and ruthlessness to insure it's own survival. To me, that's the far and away coolest concept this show has come up with to date.

Now, my only question is, when did they find all this out about the Raiders? About them being sentient? Like TETENAL, I wasn't too impressed with the miniseries, so I didn't bother with the show until the end of season one (I mean the very end), and then I got hooked. So was this something they discovered in season one? I didn't recognize the scenes they showed in the "Previously on..." opening, so did I miss something this season, or was it something from season one? I guess I have to go pick up season one on DVD this weekend.

Long story short, Starbuck crashed landed on a barren planet with a Raider she was fighting and managed to get inside it and fly it back to Galactica. Don't wanna tell you too much more and risk spoiling it for you though

It's EP5 Season1, "You Can't Go Home Again."

SpaceMonkey · Feb 4, 2006 , 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane

Now, my only question is, when did they find all this out about the Raiders? About them being sentient? Like TETENAL, I wasn't too impressed with the miniseries, so I didn't bother with the show until the end of season one (I mean the very end), and then I got hooked. So was this something they discovered in season one? I didn't recognize the scenes they showed in the "Previously on..." opening, so did I miss something this season, or was it something from season one? I guess I have to go pick up season one on DVD this weekend.

Well, they figured out that the Raiders are partly biological at least when Kara flew one back to Galactica after being shot down in Season 1 (that was the "Previously on..." reference that showed her ripping apart the innards of one). I don't think they knew exactly what level of consciousness the Raiders operated under until Boomer started giving them more information about their "animal" characteristics.

ThinkInsane · Feb 4, 2006 , 02:01 PM

Ah, thanks for the info. In the time between my last post and this one, i ran to the mall and picked up season one. Unfortunately, I have to go to work now, so I won't be able to watch it till tomorrow. Thanks for the info though.

And I'll say again, this is so much cooler than the original BSG's three gold-chrome Cylons crewing a raider. I love this concept!

The thing I didn't like about this episode is that no CO, especially one as gung-ho and high intensity as Kara, would let a subordinate continue to publically call them out. They would have been dealt with, and more than likely harshly. Moore said in one of the podcasts that he was a squid officer, so he certainly knows this.

Eug Wanker · Feb 4, 2006 , 11:07 PM

OMG this episode was a frakkin' bore. This half-season has been quite the letdown.

211: Resurrection Ship, Part 1 - Good
212: Resurrection Ship, Part 2 - OK I suppose.
213: Epiphanies - Meh. Nah, not just meh. Irritating.
214: Black Market - Meh. Good concept, poor implementation.
215: Scar - OMG this episode was a frakkin' bore.

Corpse of Chewbacca · Feb 4, 2006 , 11:34 PM

Good....it didn't suck. Very good. No more suxy eps!!!

jcadam · Feb 5, 2006 , 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

OMG this episode was a frakkin' bore. This half-season has been quite the letdown.

211: Resurrection Ship, Part 1 - Good
212: Resurrection Ship, Part 2 - OK I suppose.
213: Epiphanies - Meh. Nah, not just meh. Irritating.
214: Black Market - Meh. Good concept, poor implementation.
215: Scar - OMG this episode was a frakkin' bore.

I agree with the exception of 212 - I dug that one.

Time to get back to the whole search-for-Earth thing, methinks.

OreoCookie · Feb 5, 2006 , 09:21 AM

Am I the only one who loved this episode, but disliked most of the previous ones of season 2?
(This started roughly with the cliffhanger episode of season 2.)

JHromadka · Feb 5, 2006 , 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Good episode this week. I'm getting REALLY sick of flashbacks though.

Agreed. I cringe everytime I see "XX HOURS AGO" on the screen now. Used sparingly it's ok, but S2 is doing it way too much. The episode was ok, but how some druggie all the sudden got balls is beyond me.

 · Feb 5, 2006 , 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by jcadam

Time to get back to the whole search-for-Earth thing, methinks.

Definitely.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Feb 5, 2006 , 12:43 PM

Um ah, ok Scar was OK. I don't think the show works quite as well when they aren't focusing on the whole crew and the whole baltar/six thing.

The farm focused on Starbuck and that went really well, in this episode I just found that Kat really annoyed me even more than she does in other episodes. She is the only character I want dead.

The last 2 episodes didn't feel right at all, I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for the show as up till 214 I thought they could do no wrong.

chabig · Feb 5, 2006 , 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Am I the only one who loved this episode, but disliked most of the previous ones of season 2?
(This started roughly with the cliffhanger episode of season 2.)

I really like this episode's focus on the fighter pilots, and as a former one I appreciated the authentic terminology. They really did a great job with the lingo and its correct use.

Chris

Dale Sorel · Feb 5, 2006 , 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by chabig

I really like this episode's focus on the fighter pilots, and as a former one I appreciated the authentic terminology. They really did a great job with the lingo and its correct use.

Coolness