Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

SirCastor · Oct 7, 2006, 01:27 PM

Where is the freakin' iTunes download! I need to see this

(I don't have cable. I'd really like to see a season pass for this show...)

Chuckit · Oct 7, 2006, 01:31 PM

I don't think signing that document shows he is on a path to good. He condemned to death hundreds of people who were already doing something so that he could have some vague chance to do something in the future — which, if that scene is any indication, he'll also pass up as soon as it gets dangerous so he can "fight another day." That's been Baltar's MO all along: He's perfectly willing to screw people over, but he has to delude himself into believing his actions are somehow noble.

goMac · Oct 7, 2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

I don't think signing that document shows he is on a path to good. He condemned to death hundreds of people who were already doing something so that he could have some vague chance to do something in the future — which, if that scene is any indication, he'll also pass up as soon as it gets dangerous so he can "fight another day." That's been Baltar's MO all along: He's perfectly willing to screw people over, but he has to delude himself into believing his actions are somehow noble.

Baltar stalled with a gun to his head. The Cylons were threatening to kill him, and he would even sign it until he was poked and prodded by imaginary six. Before, Baltar never really any qualms about doing this sort of thing. This time, he seemed to have major qualms about signing the document.

Oversoul · Oct 7, 2006, 02:02 PM

I was beginning to lose some confidence in BSG after a somewhat randomized second season, but my faith is completely restored. Science fiction in recent years has been all about technobabble and deus ex machinas saving the day at the last minute. BSG, however, is science fiction as it should be -- the technology is there, but it's subsumed and serves the human drama, which is the true centerpiece of the show. The timely political and social commentaries, I don't think, are lost on anybody. BSG has the daring to tackle the difficult and charged issues of military occupation and insurgency, the use of human bombs and collateral damage, detention camps and torture, religion as a proxy of democracy, and ultimately what's right even when you're convinced you're fighting for the right side. The brave decision to place our sympathetic characters in the role of insurgents and terrorists is at the same time illuminating and jarring.

And, as for the plot and story telling, other than the unexpected twist of +1 year at the end of the season, I'm definitely appreciating the writer's careful approach to the show where one character's actions have direct bearing on what happens next. Unlike some schizophrenic one hour drama where you're feed more questions than you'll ever get answers for, the dramatic impact of BSG's story isn't lost. I for one, am looking forward to whether Baltar can ever redeem himself, and whether the trust that Sharon and Adama have built up will shatter once the truth of what happened to her baby comes out.

One more thing: Fat Adama! Get your fat ass out of here!

selowitch · 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by SirCastor

Where is the freakin' iTunes download! I need to see this

Me too! What's taking them so long?!?! I don't see any mentions of iTunes on the Sci-Fi channel website, which worries me. Maybe they aren't doing it this season.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 7, 2006, 04:07 PM

I liked it, dark and gloomy.

It is good for a few episodes to be on the planet but I can't wait for them to get back in space.

goMac · Oct 7, 2006, 07:20 PM

Any bets on how Adama caused the attacks?

Oversoul · Oct 7, 2006, 10:17 PM

I wonder if it will be some kind of indirect moral guilt in the sense that he's a representative of a sinful mankind or as a soldier in the first war, or if it'll be something more direct like he aided and abetted the Cylons in some way.

deej5871 · 12:44 AM

iTunes really needs to get its act together. I was planning on buying this episode on iTunes since I had to miss it, but it's still not available. I refused to wait any longer and I just got it via BT.

What I really want to know is where the podcast is. It's in the podcast section of my iTunes but when it goes to download the file doesn't exist. It also is supposed to be there according to SCIFI.COM, but when I try to download from there I still get nothing. What's the deal?

Edit: Nevermind about the podcast. Apparently the "enhanced" version of the podcast works, so all is well.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 8, 2006, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by deej5871

iTunes really needs to get its act together. I was planning on buying this episode on iTunes since I had to miss it, but it's still not available. I refused to wait any longer and I just got it via BT.

What I really want to know is where the podcast is. It's in the podcast section of my iTunes but when it goes to download the file doesn't exist. It also is supposed to be there according to SCIFI.COM, but when I try to download from there I still get nothing. What's the deal?

Edit: Nevermind about the podcast. Apparently the "enhanced" version of the podcast works, so all is well.

Where is this enhanced podcast you speak of? I cant find it on iTunes

selowitch · Oct 8, 2006, 07:51 AM

Can't find it on BT. Anybody have a link?
This sucks! I want the iTunes download so bad I could SCREAM! WTF is going on???

Eug Wanker · Oct 8, 2006, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn

Where is this enhanced podcast you speak of? I cant find it on iTunes

I can't get it to work either. My iTunes sees it, but I can't get it.

Listen to commentary by executive producer Ronald D. Moore and his wife, Terry Moore, while watching Battlestar Galactica episode 301-302, "Occupation"/"Precipice" (special double-episode season premiere).

None of the enhanced podcasts work for me either. (Click here to subscribe to the enhanced podcast.)

Plus, the videos don't play right for me. Why the frak did they switch from QuickTime to flash?

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 8, 2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

Any bets on how Adama caused the attacks?

Ok wait a sec. What am I missing here? I don't remember anything about Adama causing an attack?

Perhaps I was more drunk/stoned than i thought.

goMac · Oct 8, 2006, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Ok wait a sec. What am I missing here? I don't remember anything about Adama causing an attack?

Perhaps I was more drunk/stoned than i thought.

It was mentioned in the preview for all of season 3 shown after S3.E1. Adama feels guilt for somehow causing the attack on the colonies.

Visnaut · Oct 8, 2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

It was mentioned in the preview for all of season 3 shown after S3.E1. Adama feels guilt for somehow causing the attack on the colonies.

I can check my PVR, but I'm pretty sure they didn't show that same preview here in Canada on the Space channel. They showed snippets for the next episode, but not for the entire season. I'm quite sure they didn't mention anything regarding Adama's culpability in the original attacks.

So yeah, SWG, you weren't as blitzed as you thought.

goMac · Oct 8, 2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Visnaut

I can check my PVR, but I'm pretty sure they didn't show that same preview here in Canada on the Space channel. They showed snippets for the next episode, but not for the entire season. I'm quite sure they didn't mention anything regarding Adama's culpability in the original attacks.

So yeah, SWG, you weren't as blitzed as you thought.

They also showed a scene in the preview with Baltar talking to six exclaiming "Are you saying I'm a Cylon?"

(I still don't think Baltar is a cylon)

Chuckit · Oct 8, 2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

They also showed a scene in the preview with Baltar talking to six exclaiming "Are you saying I'm a Cylon?"

(I still don't think Baltar is a cylon)

The full scene goes like this:

Baltar: Are you saying I'm a Cylon?

Six: No, you halfwit.

Oversoul · Oct 8, 2006, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

(I still don't think Baltar is a cylon)

I don't think so either. Otherwise, I doubt Caprica Six would be so intent on protecting him: first, shielding him on Caprica when the nukes were going off; and second, objecting to the other Cylons' call to kill him in the season premiere.

OreoCookie · Oct 8, 2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Oversoul

I don't think so either. Otherwise, I doubt Caprica Six would be so intent on protecting him: first, shielding him on Caprica when the nukes were going off; and second, objecting to the other Cylons' call to kill him in the season premiere.

Well, if Baltar were a Cylon, there would have been no need for six. After all, why do you need a Cylon to fool another Cylon? Especially considering Baltar has designed/contributed to the design of the Defense Mainframe: why do you need codes if you can add a backdoor?