[JHromadka]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I've always wondered why Baltar didn't reveal to the officers that Boomer was a cylon. They gave a lame explanation in that episode saying that he thought Boomer would whack him, but that seems too convenient.

I wonder how this will be resolved. Will Boomer reveal that Baltar knew all along?

As soon as Boomer shot the commander, I wondered what would happen to Baltar's detector now that everyone would think it was flawed.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by JHromadka

As soon as Boomer shot the commander, I wondered what would happen to Baltar's detector now that everyone would think it was flawed.

This is what I thought at first. When they tortured that cylon he mentioned before he died that that captain was a cylon. I thought Boomer was actually trying to do something to help everyone out.

Not sure if this is the case now.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by JHromadka

As soon as Boomer shot the commander, I wondered what would happen to Baltar's detector now that everyone would think it was flawed.

IIRC, nobody else knows she was tested.

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

This is what I thought at first. When they tortured that cylon he mentioned before he died that that captain was a cylon. I thought Boomer was actually trying to do something to help everyone out.

Not sure if this is the case now.

I don't understand.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

IIRC, nobody else knows she was tested.


I don't understand.

That tortured Cylon mentioned that the captain was a cylon (mid 1st season).

I thought that by boomer shooting the captain she was actually helping because she also knew. Who knows.

[Eug Wanker]

I assumed that that cylon was just trying to fsck with everyone's minds.

P.S. To the people in charge of releasing season 1 on DVD... If you don't release it soon, I'm just gonna download them all, or else just record it off TV myself. If you release it soon, I'll buy TWO sets (especially if it includes some extras).

It will be interesting to see what happens when H.264 hits...

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

To the people in charge of releasing season 1 on DVD...

It is supposed to come out on the 27th of this month.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

It is supposed to come out on the 27th of this month.

Yeah, I was looking into this some more, and it's supposedly Best Buy only, on the 26th. I was hoping for a general release soon, but it doesn't seem it will be for general release until the end of September. Best Buy has the exclusive for 2 whole months? What confuses me too is that it still says it's the UK version, but it's been formatted for North America.

The good news is the price. It's US$48.99. That's reasonable. The initial rumoured price was US$69.99.

The bad news is it doesn't show up on the Canadian Best Buy website at all. It doesn't help me much if it's a US-only Best Buy exclusive.

[JHromadka]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

That tortured Cylon mentioned that the captain was a cylon (mid 1st season).

I thought that by boomer shooting the captain she was actually helping because she also knew. Who knows.

Now that would be interesting.

[JHromadka]

BTW, for those interested in getting the BSG Season 1 on DV, Universal has posted the info on it. Remember that the version in Best Buy stores next week does not have the miniseries on it. The version that comes out in September will have the ms and more features.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by JHromadka

Now that would be interesting.

I think it is wishful thinking though but I was rather impressed with my own guess

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by JHromadka

BTW, for those interested in getting the BSG Season 1 on DV, Universal has posted the info on it. Remember that the version in Best Buy stores next week does not have the miniseries on it. The version that comes out in September will have the ms and more features.

Disc 1
Battlestar Galactica: The Miniseries
Run Time: 3 Hours 3 Minutes
MPAA Rating: Not Rated
Bonus Materials
Feature Commentary with Director Michael Rymer and Executive Producers David Eick and Ron Moore

Disc 2
Run Time: 2 Hours 58 Minutes
MPAA Rating: Not Rated
Bonus Materials
Pilot Commentary with Director Michael Rymer and Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore
"Bastille Day" Episode Commentary with Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore
"Act of Contrition" Episode Commentary with Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore

Disc 3
Run Time: 2 Hours 56 Minutes
MPAA Rating: Not Rated
Bonus Materials
"You Can't Go Home Again" Episode Commentary with Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore

Disc 4
Run Time: 2 Hours 56 Minutes
MPAA Rating: Not Rated
Bonus Materials
"Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore
"The Hand of God" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore
"Colonial Day" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore
"Kobol's Last Gleaming: Part 1" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore

Disc 5
MPAA Rating: Not Rated
Bonus Materials
Behind the Scenes
Deleted Scenes
Battlestar Galactica Series Lowdown
Sketches and Art
"Kobol's Last Gleaming: Part 2" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore

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Looks great. Damn I knew I shouldn't have bought the miniseries DVD. I've heard many of the commentaries (aka Podcasts)] already but there seems to be some knew ones. The only thing that worries me a bit is that each disc is about 3 hours. The quality on the miniseries DVD is fairly poor because of this.

I've already downloaded them all (shhh), so I guess I can wait until September 20.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

2 DVD releases within months of the same thing is rather retarded.

At any rate I just watched the ep called 33. Some interesting things happened. What are the odds that the one person that knows about Baltar is also on the traitor ship that baltar needs to convince them to destroy. I hope this isn't a coincidence.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

2 DVD releases within months of the same thing is rather retarded.

I agree. However, they KNOW some people are going to buy both.

I'm guessing the 7/26 release will not be picked up by all retailers. They probably just wanted a Season 1 release available during the Sci-Fi.com airings of Season 2, which have already started.

[RAILhead]

My understanding was that the 26th release was a Best Buy only thing.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by RAILhead

My understanding was that the 26th release was a Best Buy only thing.

Yeah, sounds like it. If we Canucks get it too in our Best Buys then I'll get one of those for my nephew, and then get the full version for myself in September.

Come on Best Buy Canada!

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Yeah, sounds like it. If we Canucks get it too in our Best Buys then I'll get one of those for my nephew, and then get the full version for myself in September.

Burn yourself a copy before you give it to him.

[scottiB]

I'm curious if the Moore's solo commentaries for season 1 are just his podcasts.

[JHromadka]

It was a good episode tonight.

The metal Cylons (sentinels I think they called them) are badass. Too bad we didn't see too much of them. The Chief looked like he was going to lose it for a minute, and I swear in Baltar's vision I was waiting for Adama to baptize that baby. I think 6 is setting up Baltar to try to kill Adama in case he lives thru those gunshot wounds.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by scottiB

I'm curious if the Moore's solo commentaries for season 1 are just his podcasts.

Probably.

Anyways, it looks like we Canadians aren't getting that NTSC-ified Battlestar Galactica UK version at Best Buy. I went to one today and they have no listing for BSG for July 26. So I'm just gonna get my nephew a season of 24 instead.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by JHromadka

It was a good episode tonight.

The metal Cylons (sentinels I think they called them) are badass. Too bad we didn't see too much of them. The Chief looked like he was going to lose it for a minute, and I swear in Baltar's vision I was waiting for Adama to baptize that baby. I think 6 is setting up Baltar to try to kill Adama in case he lives thru those gunshot wounds.

I haven't seen that one yet but there is something very odd about the cylons. They don't seem to want to destroy the BSG but chase (or possibly lead) it around.

I mean instead of sending a ship of troops they could have put ONE nuke onboard, crash that into the hanger and that would have been the end of it. They also have had TONS of other opportunities (like why didn't they kill the captain sooner). Seems they have bigger plans at hand.

[RAILhead]

Their plan was to disable the life support and suck the crew into space, then use the BSG's weapons to take out the fleet. Of course, Gaeta got a partial warning out to the fleet before the Cylons jammed the transmission, so who knows.

There were quite a few loose ends on this part of the episode, that's for sure.

Maury

[JHromadka]

I didn't think I would get much from the podcasts. Didn't listen to any from the first season, but I've liked the first two of this season. You can add it to iTunes by clicking here.

SHS, it's interesting you mention sending a nuke on a ship. In Stargate Atlantis, they were using that technique (they were beaming instead of kamikaze flying though) to attack ships. It would seem that the Cylons definitely "have a plan." Otherwise their home planet would not even be habitable and Kobal would have been wasted too.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

I honestly wonder if even the writers know what they are doing story wise or if they are making it up as they go along. I know the ending of DS9 was supposed to look like it was all one big plan but no way in hell did they know there were going to end it as they did.

I am a bit worried that it will end up being to Xfiles like. I loved Xfiles at first but then they kept giving you little bits and clues as to the larger picture but never really answered any questions. It also seemed hacked together. I hated it by the 4th season.

[JHromadka]

DS9 rocked and had a great Dominion arc. I don't know what you are talking about (the Sisko thing?) I think it's a little early to start worrying about BSG becoming the X-Files. It's just that a lot happened at the end of S1 and it's going to take a few episodes to get that sorted. Better than tidying everything up in the first 10 minutes of S2 ep 1. There's going to be some allegory. Any show about leading a people to a "promised land" is going to have it.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

I honestly wonder if even the writers know what they are doing story wise or if they are making it up as they go along.

Ronald Moore has already said they have introduced many concepts just so they have them. ie. They don't know if they'll lead anywhere, and they don't have everything mapped out.

OTOH, they have more plan than other shows. For instance, Season 2's first 7 episodes are meant to resolve the questions from Season 1.

Also, after rewatching episodes 1 and 2, I have picked up on clues to plot lines that didn't really become apparent to me until much later in the season.

It seems clear to me that Moore et al. have planned out the story lines fairly well, but have left themselves enough flexibility to change gears when necessary.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Anyone have any guesses as to who else might be a Cylon? Think it might be one of the main characters?

[Warung]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Anyone have any guesses as to who else might be a Cylon? Think it might be one of the main characters?

I was thinking about that too. During the last episode, they discovered Dualla and Tyrol in rooms where they were surrounded by victims of the cylon onslaught...they both acted very strangely and out of character (more so, than their state of being in shock would account for)...I was thinking that they might have been spared by the Centurions because they are Cylons as well...

Another thought I had is that maybe Baltar is the only human alive, and all the others are cylons...and Six is a computer program designed by some human being who knew what was going on...and is trying to help Gaius defeat the Cylons...

Anybody else think that Starbuck and Helo are going to hook up? I think they should...

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Warung

I was thinking about that too. During the last episode, they discovered two Galactica personnel (one guy and a woman, I forgot their names) in rooms where they were surrounded by victims of the cylon onslaught...

Ya I was thinking the same about the guy they found.

The Kernels wife is definitely dangerous, I am sure she is the one that sold out the location of that assassin. I think they will either kill her this season or ditch her from the BSG.

The Dr. is VERY odd. I mean why would he lie about the results of the Cylon detection for EVEYONE?

[-Q-]

Originally Posted by Warung

I was thinking about that too. During the last episode, they discovered two Galactica personnel (one guy and a woman, I forgot their names) in rooms where they were surrounded by victims of the cylon onslaught...they both acted very strangely and out of character (more so, than their state of being in shock would account for)...I was thinking that they might have been spared by the Centurions because they are Cylons as well...

That would make sense. Especially when considering the snafu with the FTL jump coordinates not being transmitted to the other ships in the fleet. Wouldn't it have been Petty Officer Dualla (and is her name a clue?) that would have transmitted the updated jump coordinates to the other ships? IF she knew a Cylon base star was coming and wanted to mess with the fleet, that would have been the perfect opportunity.

[Eug Wanker]

Cool:

"The second-season premiere of Galactica was the number-one program on television, including broadcast and cable, among men aged 25-54 and 18-49.

Battlestar Galactica began its second season with its highest-rated episode to date, a 2.6 household rating (3.1 million viewers)."

IIRC, that's around what Enterprise got for some episodes, despite also being aired on normal broadcast channels.

Anyone have any guesses as to who else might be a Cylon? Think it might be one of the main characters?

How many humanoid cyclons are there so far? I count 4:

The Blonde One (Six)
Boomer
The tour guide
The guy in the munitions depot

At one one point I wondered if Baltar was a cylon, but then that whole baby thing wouldn't make much sense. For the same reason Helo isn't a cylon (not to mention that they cyclon treat him like a human). I don't think Tigh's wife is a cylon. She's just a manipulative bitch. (Her cylon test was negative too.) Which reminds me... Who's your favourite BSG woman? My fave character is Starbuck, but I kinda like Cally the mechanic too.

But yeah, I do wonder if that guy they picked up in Episode 2 in the hallway is a cylon. Dunno about Dualla. So far I don't see any other hints that might suggest that she is, but who knows.

Gaeta kinda has a weird cylonesque quality to him, but I think that's just his personality.

The Dr. is VERY odd. I mean why would he lie about the results of the Cylon detection for EVEYONE?

I'm not sure what you mean by that. He has a real cylon detector, and the only one I remember him lying about was Boomer, cuz he was convinced she'd freak out and kill him. OTOH, he could do the same for all other cylon tests I suppose. I'm just annoyed that he didn't eventually tell Tigh/Adama about Boomer's test.

[scottiB]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Anyone have any guesses as to who else might be a Cylon? Think it might be one of the main characters?

I hope none of the current main characters are. To have it so would be too similar to what occasionally happens on 24 where there seems to be inevitably a "mole" lurking about CTU. Viewers spend too much time wondering if so-and-so is a mole and not paying attention to the story/plot. That viewers hunt for them is producers' fault by throwing around too many red herrings. I don't want this to become DS9 when a key character is a changeling all of a sudden.

[scottiB]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Who's your favourite BSG woman?

Six. While she's very attractive, granted, I really like Tricia Helfer's acting--especially for having little experience. There's a scene on Caprica where she and the PR Cylon are walking and discussing Caprica-Boomer's love of Helo, and Six, in trying to shrug it off, looks away in anguish because she wants be in love (or be loved), too. Really a nice moment that says a lot.

Also, her scene with Gaius in the bathroom, when she smashes his head into the mirror.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by scottiB

Six. While she's very attractive, granted, I really like Tricia Helfer's acting--especially for having little experience. There's a scene on Caprica where she and the PR Cylon are walking and discussing Caprica-Boomer's love of Helo, and Six, in trying to shrug it off, looks away in anguish because she wants be in love (or be loved), too. Really a nice moment that says a lot.

Also, her scene with Gaius in the bathroom, when she smashes his head into the mirror.

Yeah, she's a much better actor than I might have originally guessed, given her (lack of) experience. But then again, I'm impressed overall with the casting. They've got a few bigger US names, but then they have a bazillion Canadian actors who do their roles quite well. If BSG can find so many Canadian actors that are cast perfectly and act well (eg. Six, Tigh, the Chief, Gaeta, etc.), why are there so many crappily acted CBC shows?!?!?

IMO the weakest actor on the show is Boomer. She's not bad though. Just not great. She does play into the vulnerable cylon bit well enough though, and that's probably why they selected her I guess. They didn't need another Starbuck, that's for sure.

Also, I've never been a huge fan of Mary McDonnell. The writers said they wrote the Prez part specifically for her, but I'm not sure exactly why. I like her in this role, and her character, but her acting is always similar it seems.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I don't think Tigh's wife is a cylon. She's just a manipulative bitch. (Her cylon test was negative too.)

No we don't know that. The Dr. told them it was "Negative" but when Six said to him "What did the test really say" he said "I'll never tell". Six also said everyones test was passing and the Dr. said it was easier that way.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Who's your favourite BSG woman?

Cally. She's both awesome and adorable. The actress does a great job giving her depth despite the fact that Cally has an average of, like, 2.5 lines per episode.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

No we don't know that. The Dr. told them it was "Negative" but when Six said to him "What did the test really say" he said "I'll never tell". Six also said everyones test was passing and the Dr. said it was easier that way.

Hmmm... I'll have to watch it that episode again closely. That does sound familiar though.

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Cally. She's both awesome and adorable. The actress does a great job giving her depth despite the fact that Cally has an average of, like, 2.5 lines per episode.

I just finished listening to the Episode 2 Podcast and Moore said she was originally just basically planned as a bit part. However, they liked her and her character's dynamics with the chief so much that they kept expanding her role. It's not a big role even now, but I really do like her character. Adorable and strong at the same time.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Hmmm... I'll have to watch it that episode again closely. That does sound familiar though.

It is the last 60 seconds of the episode.

My fav character is the Prez. She is awesome.
After that the doctor is cool.

[scottiB]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

IMO the weakest actor on the show is Boomer. She's not bad though. Just not great. She does play into the vulnerable cylon bit well enough though, and that's probably why they selected her I guess. They didn't need another Starbuck, that's for sure.

Every time she says, "Thank the Gods!" or "Frackin' xxxx" I wince. There was a scene, I think in 1.12 or 1.13 where she tells Helo to shove his attitude "up his a$$" and it lacked so much oomph that I snickered.

OTOH, there are some quiet scenes of hers that are quite nice. Her voice doesn't have much inflection or play in it, so when she's supposed to be excited, it's her same speaking voice--just louder.

[scottiB]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

It is the last 60 seconds of the episode.

Yeah, Gaius played coy with the test. I think it was more tongue-in-cheeck to agree with the tone of the show which was more screwball comedy-esque (as much as BSG could be).

Ellen Tigh doesn't need to be a Cylon. She gets what she wants the old fashioned way: playing on people's weakness and vanity; using her sex appeal (though that may be waning); and making under-the-table agreements (as with Zarek). Very Lady MacTigh.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by scottiB

Every time she says, "Thank the Gods!" or "Frackin' xxxx" I wince. There was a scene, I think in 1.12 or 1.13 where she tells Helo to shove his attitude "up his a$$" and it lacked so much oomph that I snickered.

I remember that. It sounded almost like a request. "So you can shove it up your ass?"

On the other hand, I thought she did a decent job with the tough stuff in the interrogation scene this season. I think shooting Adama must have given the actress some stones.

[scottiB]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

On the other hand, I thought she did a decent job with the tough stuff in the interrogation scene this season. I think shooting Adama must have given the actress some stones.

I agree. I'm also impressed with Apollo (Jamie Bamber) for the first two eps this season. He's gone a little sardonic and bitter.

[Ozmodiar]

They're replaying the latest (US) episode right now on SciFi. Is that a real piano piece that they listen to on Caprica, or was it composed originally for the show? I would love to have that.

[Warung]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Who's your favourite BSG woman?

Definitely Kara. Her character has a certain depth which exceeds all the other's by quite a bit, and her range of emotions spans the entire gamut. Plus she's the hottest of the entire cast...of course.

I didn't really like Boomer too much until she tried to kill Adama...I think there is a lot more to her than we already know.

[Eug Wanker]

Is the Sci-Fi channel always an extra pay cable channel? I'm in Atlanta at the moment and the hotel doesn't have it.

Originally Posted by Ozmodiar

They're replaying the latest (US) episode right now on SciFi. Is that a real piano piece that they listen to on Caprica, or was it composed originally for the show? I would love to have that.

They play it twice a week? When?

[Ozmodiar]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

They play it twice a week? When?

Sometimes. I think they use BSG as filler for when they have an empty hour in the schedule.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Is the Sci-Fi channel always an extra pay cable channel? I'm in Atlanta at the moment and the hotel doesn't have it.

I've never been anyplace where Sci-Fi is a pay channel.

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

They play it twice a week? When?

New episode on Friday, repeat of that episode on Monday.

[Briareus]

Originally Posted by Ozmodiar

They're replaying the latest (US) episode right now on SciFi. Is that a real piano piece that they listen to on Caprica, or was it composed originally for the show? I would love to have that.

The piano piece is Metamorphosis One by Philip Glass, from the album "Solo Piano". Freaked me out hearing it on BG.

(trying to recall the dialogue from the Starbuck/Helo scene in that episode... didn't she say her father wrote it, or something? hmm.)

amazon.com

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Damn, they killed one of my fav characters

Oh and the XO needs to be shot out an airlock.

[Ozmodiar]

I was glad to see the jackass go. Also, Galen is quickly becoming my favorite character.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Ozmodiar

I was glad to see the jackass go. Also, Galen is quickly becoming my favorite character.

Who is Galen? And yeah, I wasn't sorry to see that other character go, although I wasn't expecting it.

BTW, I'm wondering what happened to Boomer #2 (on the planet), and if she simply flew back to be with the other Cyclons. Boomer #2 seems to have been getting more and more alienated from the rest of the Cyclons and this opens up potential routes for the storyline to go. (Boomer #1 (on the Battlestar) seems to be struggling hard with the realization that she's a Cylon, and even went as far as to blow up a Cylon Base Star.)

Oh and Ron Moore says that Baltar is eventually going to have to account for why he didn't reveal Boomer's true nature.