[Eriamjh]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

Neat. So it turns out not even the Cylons know who the remaining 5 Cylons are and Lawless thinks they live between life and death:

http://www.lucylawless.info/articles...dec-4-2006.jpg

Found this weeks episode boring, but I prefer the Cylon storyline over a storyline just about characters that could be on any soap opera.

Comment: Starbuck is one effed up chick. She screws over Lee, then screws over Sam. Now it looks like she's going to screw over Dee. She deserves her brains punched out.

Looks like next week they address runng out of food. Anyone got a link to a decent Canadian trailer?

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Eriamjh 

Anyone got a link to a decent Canadian trailer?

They didn't show a new one in Canada just a season recap trailer for some reason.

Anyway, here is that link again that for some reason worked before:

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3...ec42006hy3.jpg

[finboy]

Originally Posted by Oversoul 

Yes. Mainly because Dualla is such a pointless character. She has almost no screen time and what screen time she does get is usually some bland "Yes sir," press the button kind of scene. Her entire relationship with Apollo seemed a bit contrived and there's no chemistry there at all. The writers should do something with her or just kill her off.

She.is.a.Cylon.

[RAILhead]

I wasn't too impressed with last night's episode. We learned a bit, but the whole Kat thing was too much wasted space for me.

[Chuckit]

Last week's episode was kind of filler, but I thought it was pretty well-done filler. The Kat storyline worked well, and it set up for future Cylon plotlines. (Incidentally, the actress who plays Dualla used to have a character named Kat on another TV show, so I always get confused which character I'm talking about when I write "Kat." Same problem with Charlie on Lost.)

[SpaceMonkey]

I understand that the human characters have a right to be pretty paranoid, but I really don't get the whole "OMG you might have unknowingly held a door open, or maybe bought some girl scout cookies for a Cylon, like, five years ago! You traitor!" attitude that's shown up a couple of times now. It's so over-the-top that it kills a little bit of my suspension of disbelief.

[Oversoul]

Emotional episode, but I never found Kat to be a very likable character anyway so the resonance of her death wasn't as strong as it could be. Writers did a good job taking a brash character and infusing her with a sympathetic back story and a struggle to prove herself.

Lots of elements setting up a conflict between humans and cylon over the Eye of Jupiter. (What's with the mixed use of Roman and Greek names for the gods?) Looking forward to next week's episode.

One last note, why are there so many rowdy civilians walking around sensitive areas on the Galactica? Haven't they learned that they may be cylons?

[xi_hyperon]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey 

I understand that the human characters have a right to be pretty paranoid, but I really don't get the whole "OMG you might have unknowingly held a door open, or maybe bought some girl scout cookies for a Cylon, like, five years ago! You traitor!" attitude that's shown up a couple of times now. It's so over-the-top that it kills a little bit of my suspension of disbelief.

I liked the episode, although it certainly was no milestone. I think it was obvious Kara's motivation was, in part, revenge for the ass-kicking she got (figuratively speaking) in "Scar". At least that's what I got from it. It's not exactly like they were ever buddies. And besides, Adama had no interest in hearing about whatever scandal Kat was a part of.

[Ganesha]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey 

I understand that the human characters have a right to be pretty paranoid, but I really don't get the whole "OMG you might have unknowingly held a door open, or maybe bought some girl scout cookies for a Cylon, like, five years ago! You traitor!" attitude that's shown up a couple of times now. It's so over-the-top that it kills a little bit of my suspension of disbelief.

Only two people have bothered Kat about her past, a thug trying to score some favors, and Starbuck.

It is expected of the thug to try make Kat had the wildest of fears by tell her stories of what might happen to her. So this is very much in character for the thug.

Starbuck is in a bad mental place right now and is transferring her unhappiness into bulling people around. She nearly killed Gatea, just so she could feel better. She and Lee beat each other to a pulp last week. And she goes after poor Kat. This is very much in character for Starbuck.

[Spliff]

Anybody see this Wired blog article?

Is Battlestar Galactica Doomed?

It is with a heavy heart that I am forced to confront the possibility that the once-great show Battlestar Galactica may be heading to fraktown. After Friday's head-clutchingly bad episode, which combined boxing scenes with barfy romantic flashbacks, my sense of foreboding has escalated into franchise panic. Will our beloved show go Star Trek:TNG season 7 on us? Or, worse, Buffy season 6? Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. Read on for the ten signs that Battlestar Galactica is turning a dangerous corner . . .

10. Show co-creators Ron Moore and David Eick are both developing multiple other projects. Moore is working on BSG prequel show Caprica, and Eick is working on both Bionic Woman and Them.

9. Crucial subplots, such as the fate of Sharon and Helo's hybrid baby, are left dangling for more than three episodes.

8. Rather than developing characters via personal transformation, character development is charted via hair length, presence/absence of beards, and weight gain/loss.

7. The only way the writers imagine they can showcase Edward James Olmos' considerable acting talents is via long-winded speeches.

6. Cylon threesomes.

5. Too much intimacy with the mysterious Cylon enemy in their SM dungeon ship makes them seem campy rather than scary.

4. Entire episodes are clumsily devoted to single-word social issues like "torture" and "genocide."

3. Eick promises next season will bring more flashback-heavy episodes that focus on romantic entanglements and/or childhood trauma.

2. A retcon turns Adama into the cause of the Cylons' attack on the twelve colonies, thus making him both improbably important and too much of a bastard.

1. Boxing is used as a thin excuse for an episode that could have been written (better) by shippers.

I agree with with numbers 8, 7, 6, 5, and 4. The rest don't bother me although I'm worried about #3 (flashback heavy episodes) if it turns out to be true. I'm bloody sick of flashbacks.

[Chuckit]

Half of those "signs" have been true of the entire freakin' run. Some (such as ham-fistedly devoting entire episodes to simple topics) are less true now than they were early on. One or two are valid complaints. The rest strike me as silly bitching to fill it out to an even 10.

[finboy]

OMG what a crappy episode. The story line (double jump!) didn't even make any sense! The whole thing looked like somebody mailed it in from vacation. Really disappointing.

I've been watching since the mini-series, and this week's was the weakest one so far, hands down.

Boxing was bad enough, but had its redeeming moments. Next week I expect Starbuck to jump a shark with her Viper.

[Eug]

I'm thinking a wrap-up after 4 years (or 5 years at the most) might be in order.

Otherwise we're gonna get even more dreck. There were elements of today's episode that were OK, but who the frack cares about her drug running friend? And the whole Starback angst thing just seemed strange.

[mrtew]

I just watched this episode again to see if it made any more sense the second time, but it made even less.

[Dark Helmet]

I was on the scifi BSG site and I saw this ad. Pretty funny, especially for Microsoft:

[ThinkInsane]

I just finished watching Friday's episode. I thought it was pretty good and went a ways toward redeeming the crappy boxing episode. I've actually given thought to the food premiss (i.e. these almost 50,000 people are floating around space in their buckets for three years and where are they getting food?) and I thought it was a nice touch to address it. I figured it would fall into the suspension of disbelief category or "If we don't ever mention it, it's not an issue" kind of thing.

Cat knew she was going to croak when her hair started falling out. She also knew she was going to have fess-up to Adama, so my first thought was there was nothing particularly noble about taking Helio's dosimeter. I figured she was planning on a suicide run. She had nothing to lose staying to look for the lost ship at that point, so whatever. The fact that she came back was what impressed me, maybe for the first time with this not very likable character. One big annoyance though. Helio was on Caprica for how long taking "anti-radiation meds"- same with Anders and his team. Why weren't the Raptor pilots taking them? Oh, two annoyances, one mentioned in a post above: I can't believe that any military ship would just let random civvies waltz into the hanger bay to admire the view or chat with an old flame.

I'm getting more interested in the cylon story line, I'm starting to find it kind of intriguing. Something odd I noticed. How did baltar tell his Xena Warrior Princess apart from the others. "Oh, there you are" when there was another Xena dressed identically walking down the hall behind her? I can accept that a cylon can conceivably look at another cylon and know which is which, like seeing Athena and saying "traitor", after all we really know very little about how they function, but I'm not buying that Baltar's one of the fab-five. And if he turns out to be that's just lame. Also, did you notice that when she said she was meeting with Simon, and Baltar asked if he checked with that particular Simon he would confirm that, that the Simon and Xena walking by both stopped in their tracks? That seemed a bit strange.

I was laid up with a back injury recently and for lack of anything better to do I downlaoded the miniseries and season one. I had thought I started watching the show (having not been overly impressed with the mini-series) half way through season one. Turned out I had only seen the last two episodes of the season. There are some pretty glaring continuity errors between the mini-series, season one and now. Like the fact that in the miniseries Adama announces that a 50 megaton nuclear device was detonated in Caprica City. And Helio and Sharon spend season one running all over a Caprica City that looked very un-nuked to this humble viewer.

Something interesting that I noticed in the miniseries. In the beginning, when the Colonial Officer is in the Armistice Station looking at the schematics of the old-timey chrome cylon model, it says on the schematic MODEL 0005, which implies there are other models. We saw the ones with the Christmas lights in there heads on the old show, but I wonder about the other models and how they evolved into what we are seeing now. have the old chrome models evolved to the Agent models we are familiar with and the christmas models have gone on to be the mystery five? I almost think there may have been some speculation about this topic somewhere in this thread, but I'm not motivated to read the last 40 pages to find out.

Oh, and I have to say, Tigh has become my favorite character this season, when truth be told I never really had a favorite character. For a long time I thought his character was completely one dimensional, but this season has given him a lot of depth. I'm interested to see how they continue to develop him.

Wow, what a long rambling and disjointed post. Sorry about that.

[mrtew]

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane 

Something interesting that I noticed in the miniseries. In the beginning, when the Colonial Officer is in the Armistice Station looking at the schematics of the old-timey chrome cylon model, it says on the schematic MODEL 0005, which implies there are other models. We saw the ones with the Christmas lights in there heads on the old show, but I wonder about the other models and how they evolved into what we are seeing now. have the old chrome models evolved to the Agent models we are familiar with and the christmas models have gone on to be the mystery five? I almost think there may have been some speculation about this topic somewhere in this thread, but I'm not motivated to read the last 40 pages to find out.

No I don't think there has been much talk of this and I'd like to know how both kinds of toasters came about too. I'm sure in the preqel we'll see a lot of others but the one lesson that I think mankind can take from this show is when you make robots, don't make them look scary-as-hell because that will just make it worse when they eventually turn on you.

[Millennium]

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane 

Helio was on Caprica for how long taking "anti-radiation meds- same with Anders and his team. Why weren't the Raptor pilots taking them?

We know that the pilots were issued anti-radiation meds; this was mentioned during the briefing. We never see them actually take the meds, but during the briefing Apollo seemed concerned that the pilots might be exposed to too much radiation for even the meds to handle. This is probably what happened to Kat.

Oh, two annoyances, one mentioned in a post above: I can't believe that any military ship would just let random civvies waltz into the hanger bay to admire the view or chat with an old flame.

This does seem odd. At the same time, you might be surprised with what you can get away with by just waltzing around an area like you're supposed to be there: it looks far less suspicious than sneaking around. As a former drug-runner, this guy was probably a master of that sort of thing.

There are some pretty glaring continuity errors between the mini-series, season one and now. Like the fact that in the miniseries Adama announces that a 50 megaton nuclear device was detonated in Caprica City. And Helio and Sharon spend season one running all over a Caprica City that looked very un-nuked to this humble viewer.

I haven't seen Season One in a while, but are we sure they were in Caprica City? Certainly they were on the planet Caprica, but I thought they said they went to a different city, and possibly one that wasn't hit as heavily in the strikes.

Something interesting that I noticed in the miniseries. In the beginning, when the Colonial Officer is in the Armistice Station looking at the schematics of the old-timey chrome cylon model, it says on the schematic MODEL 0005, which implies there are other models. We saw the ones with the Christmas lights in there heads on the old show, but I wonder about the other models and how they evolved into what we are seeing now. have the old chrome models evolved to the Agent models we are familiar with and the christmas models have gone on to be the mystery five? I almost think there may have been some speculation about this topic somewhere in this thread, but I'm not motivated to read the last 40 pages to find out.

I speculated about it earlier. My basic hypothesis is that the toasters built the Agents as part of this whole humanity-mimicking thing, but that new Agent personalities still have to be built from scratch, programmed into a toaster, and then downloaded into an Agent body to bootstrap the cycle of death and rebirth.

Oh, and I have to say, Tigh has become my favorite character this season, when