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Mar 27, 2007 , 12:29 PM
 
Unproduced Galactica 1980 story regarding Starbuck, his apparent death, his "evolution to a higher plane of existence", and a third party influencing events.
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Mar 27, 2007 , 12:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by xi_hyperon View Post
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On an aside, I hope the podcast isn't late this week. I want insight.
Ron Moore is supposed to record the podcast sometime today, so we hope to get it tomorrow. I'm withholding comment too until after listening to the Podcast.
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 01:01 PM
 
TV Week: RD Moore thinks of BSG in SD, not HD

TVWeek: There's a real difference watching "BSG" on Sci Fi and when it airs on UHD months later in HD and 5.1 Surround Sound. Has this lag time been frustrating that viewers aren't watching the original airings the way it was shot?

Mr. Moore: I don't see it that way. We don't cut it in HD. When I sit in the Avid room, it's not in HD. As a practical day-to-day matter, there's no reason for me to be watching it in HD. ... When it comes out on UHD months later, I'm usually sort of surprised. "It's gorgeous! Look at that, you can see the reflection on the glass and everything." My head isn't geared toward HD at all.
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 01:05 PM
 
So what song exactly was that the 4 were hearing and when was it recorded originally?
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 01:11 PM
 
"All Along the Watchtower" by Bob Dylan

One thing that bugged me was that even though the lyrics were from that song, the song they hear playing in their head and the covered version at the end don't sound at all like the original melody. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the same lyrics sung to a rather different song. Especially with the sitar.

If you watch the episode, you can catch bits of the lyrics in the final four's dialogue. Like when Tigh is in Adama's quarters, and Adama leaves for the courtroom, Tight whispers "There must be some way out of here". And the ending sequence of course with each character saying a line of the song before they meet up.

I really wonder what the connection means.
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 01:12 PM
 
The song is called "All Along the Watchtower" by Bob Dylan. The version we heard in the last episode was performed by a band called Bt4. At least that's what it said in the credits. I can't seem to find them in the itunes store.
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Mar 27, 2007 , 01:22 PM
 
All about "AAtW" by Bear McCreary - BSG composer:

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Mar 27, 2007 , 01:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by bstone View Post
I really wonder what the connection means.
I am trying to figure out how, when, why they got this song in their head. If the song is 40 years old they could be 40 light-years away from earth and this is how long it takes to travel to their current location.

Or, this song was programmed into their head at birth meaning it happened at least 40 years ago by our calendar.

Either way it somewhat proves when they find earth it will have a similar history and perhaps even the same timeline as we are in right now. So when they do get here it is 2008ish.

Then again:
"I happened to catch Ron Moore in the hallway at Universal and, in a brief conversation, got everything I needed to know. I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters' universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics."
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 01:55 PM
 
well then that's a copout.

I think they were trying to obscure the song, I thought for a second from the tune it was Satisfaction slowed down a ton. They wanted us to wonder like the characters were supposed to be doing.
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 02:49 PM
 
There are all kinds of versions of this song … 
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Mar 27, 2007 , 02:51 PM
 
amazing episode!
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 02:54 PM
 
FINALLY... iTunes got their act together yesterday afternoon, and between work and school I was able to watch it and catch up with the rest of you.

Having already read most of the comments here, I wasn't terribly surprised by much. The episode definitely had a lot of jumping points for next season, I'm a little irritated that Season 4 won't begin for another 9-10 months now. A couple of thoughts:

* I'd like to see Baltar's lawyer again. He was a really interesting character. His leaving the cane seemed important. Maybe he's the fifth Cylon

* I don't care where Kara got her dang Viper. I don't think that she's the 5th Cylon. I think she's something else. Maybe the lead singer in a bad cover band.

* I really really really hope that they don't pull crap like arriving at earth and it's present day 2007/2008.

* Now that we know who 4 of the remaining 5 cylons are, I want to see further programming kick in. Not "shoot your CO in the gut" programming, but as they get closer to Earth, a further understanding of their purpose, etc..

* We need to see more Zarek, he's an under-utilized character this season.

* Speaking of Zarek, when he made that executive order authorizing the execution of collaborators, Roslin was all pro-trial then. Now when Baltar's on trial, she would just as soon have the thing rigged.

* Speaking of Roslin, what happened to her right before the power outage?
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Mar 27, 2007 , 02:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by SirCastor View Post
* I really really really hope that they don't pull crap like arriving at earth and it's present day 2007/2008.
Moore has already gone on record to say they're bringing back the flying motorcycles.

* Speaking of Roslin, what happened to her right before the power outage?
She was suffering a brownout, just like the ship had a blackout moments later. It took a split second for her backup power to kick in.
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 03:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by Eug View Post
Moore has already gone on record to say they're bringing back the flying motorcycles.


She was suffering a brownout, just like the ship had a blackout moments later. It took a split second for her backup power to kick in.
Lol. I'm assuming both these comments are wrapped in invisible sarcasm tags. If they brought back anything from Galactica 1980 I might just stab myself.
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Mar 27, 2007 , 03:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by SirCastor View Post
* I'd like to see Baltar's lawyer again. He was a really interesting character. His leaving the cane seemed important. Maybe he's the fifth Cylon
We talked about this at work. The current theory is that it could have been Grandfather Adama's cane. He remarked that he liked taking objects from people to know them better. It could have been he wanted to feel closer to Grandfather Adama for the trial.
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Mar 27, 2007 , 03:07 PM
 
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Well done. All it needs is an FTL drive (whatever that might look like).
     
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Originally Posted by goMac View Post
Lol. I'm assuming both these comments are wrapped in invisible sarcasm tags. If they brought back anything from Galactica 1980 I might just stab myself.
Heh. Technically, he did actually say they are dusting off those flying motorcycles though.

Originally Posted by goMac View Post
We talked about this at work. The current theory is that it could have been Grandfather Adama's cane. He remarked that he liked taking objects from people to know them better. It could have been he wanted to feel closer to Grandfather Adama for the trial.
I interpreted this to mean (possibly) that he was playing the sympathy card. He was hurt, but not as badly as we were led to believe. ie. Honesty is not always the best policy. That ties in with the conversation he was having with Lee.

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Mar 27, 2007 , 03:10 PM
 
I believe the cane was a carryover from the injuries in the attempt on his life. He used it gain sympathy from the tribunal (and perhaps Lee). Once he didn't need it, he left it behind.

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Mar 27, 2007 , 03:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by goMac View Post
We talked about this at work. The current theory is that it could have been Grandfather Adama's cane. He remarked that he liked taking objects from people to know them better. It could have been he wanted to feel closer to Grandfather Adama for the trial.
Huh? I thought the whole point of it was to show how far he would go to win by faking a limp and gaining sympathy from the tribunal.
     
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Mar 27, 2007 , 03:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by scottiB