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analogue SPRINKLES · 10:25 PM

Wow, holy crap! That was 10x better than I was expecting. I love the hybrid story and Kara twist.

I also would have paid to see Cain and Gina scissor.

Sourbook · Dec 5, 2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

I also would have paid to see Cain and Gina scissor.

I got the Extended DVD. Much to my disappointment there were no added sappho scenes.

analogue SPRINKLES · Dec 5, 2007, 12:30 PM

So do you guys think that Starbuck is unknowingly a malicious character or is she a good person that unintentionally will lead humans to their end? Meaning does she just give bad directions that gets them killed or her destiny is to purposely bring the end to all humans even if she doesn't know it yet?

Uncle Skeleton · Dec 5, 2007, 01:06 PM

I think it's the latter. Her thing has always been self-destructive but highly technically skilled. It fits perfectly.

analogue SPRINKLES · Dec 5, 2007, 02:01 PM

I just watched that scene again and "God" called Kara "The harbinger of the apocalypse".
Sounds like the Silver Surfer to me.

Something strange though. The Hybrid said "MY CHILDREN think I am god". Why would they be his children if they created him? Wouldn't it be the other way around?

Right after that line though God also said to the Major "Come closer MY CHILD". Hmmm.

SirCastor · Dec 5, 2007, 02:58 PM

So do you guys think that Starbuck is unknowingly a malicious character or is she a good person that unintentionally will lead humans to their end?

I'm not sure how these two differ...

I suspect Starbuck is a catalyst, and no matter what the colonials do, they'll end up in trouble because they have Starbuck.

analogue SPRINKLES · Dec 5, 2007, 03:51 PM

I dunno if they mentioned it on purpose but the captured people from 41 years ago that the cylons were experimenting on mentioned they were from the ship "Diana" which of course is the name of one of the Cylon models.

reader50 · Dec 5, 2007, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

I just watched that scene again and "God" called Kara "The harbinger of the apocalypse".
...

I considered that while watching it, but it doesn't give any useful info for us. "The harbinger of the apocalypse" ... for whom?

Is she bringing on an apocalypse for the Colonies, which we are supposed to be thinking about? It's much more likely the First Hybrid was speaking from a Cylon viewpoint, since most Cylons are not that great at empathy. Read that way, Starbuck is a harbinger of the Cylon Apocalypse.

The Colonies have already had their Apocalypse, courtesy of the Visible Seven.

analogue SPRINKLES · Dec 5, 2007, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

I considered that while watching it, but it doesn't give any useful info for us. "The harbinger of the apocalypse" ... for whom?

He said "to lead humanity to its end"

Uncle Skeleton · Dec 6, 2007, 12:29 AM

Or it could just be misinformation. They tried that tactic before, in the bulldog episode with the virus.

Sourbook · Dec 6, 2007, 11:04 AM

The exact quote was:

"Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end. She is the herald of the apocalypse. The harbinger of death. They must not follow her."

And yes, it could mean many different things.

jokell82 · Dec 6, 2007, 03:01 PM

No discussion of the recently released HD DVDs? I was out of town when they were delivered, but I have them now and will be re-watching season 1 starting tonight. Can't wait.

reader50 · Dec 6, 2007, 04:01 PM

Let us know if they did a good transfer. Also, I'm curious if there are new bonus materials, and if the bonus materials are in HD too.

The regular DVD set has been criticized for overcompression and less detail than DVD is capable of.

You might watch for video differences between the Miniseries and the series. The Mini was shot on film, while they switched to HD digital cameras for the series.

analogue SPRINKLES · Dec 6, 2007, 04:31 PM

I found the Razor DVD a nice clean soft transfer which sorta bothered me as the grain is kinda what gives the show its look.

jokell82 · 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

Let us know if they did a good transfer. Also, I'm curious if there are new bonus materials, and if the bonus materials are in HD too.

The regular DVD set has been criticized for overcompression and less detail than DVD is capable of.

You might watch for video differences between the Miniseries and the series. The Mini was shot on film, while they switched to HD digital cameras for the series.

So far the miniseries PQ has been hit and miss. Most of the scenes look fantastic, but there are a few that you really notice a TON of grain and a few that are a bit softer. Overall I think it's a great upgrade over the DVDs, but it's not perfect.

I'll let you know about the individual episodes.

Oh btw, all of the CGI scenes are STUNNING.

jokell82 · Dec 8, 2007, 07:33 PM

I have noticed NO issues with picture quality in Season 1. It looks superb.

analogue SPRINKLES · Dec 9, 2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by jokell82

I have noticed NO issues with picture quality in Season 1. It looks superb.

Are you talking HD cuz on DVD they are crappy.

jokell82 · Dec 9, 2007, 11:50 AM

Yes.

Dale Sorel · Dec 10, 2007, 05:29 PM

Do you all think they'll release a podcast for Razor that's meant to be played alongside the TV episode. The podcast they currently have available is almost four hours long and surely isn't meant to be played along with a 1.5 hour episode.

brapper · Dec 11, 2007, 02:01 AM

Man, Razor really makes you miss good TV, eh?