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analogue SPRINKLES
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Apr 29, 2008 , 11:26 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mithras View Post
I thought Tigh and Six's conversation was under the assumption that Six knew what Tigh was? Maybe I'll have to listen again.
Na I think she is trying to say that she is just as "human" as him but has no clue as to who he really is which makes it so much ironic.

The other Cylons have no clue who the final 5 are and aren't even allowed to think about who they might be.
     
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Apr 29, 2008 , 04:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mithras View Post
I thought Tigh and Six's conversation was under the assumption that Six knew what Tigh was? Maybe I'll have to listen again.
Originally Posted by jokell82 View Post
Yeah I thought she had figured it out as well.
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
I didn't get it that way. I thought it was Tigh being worried that she could sense him.
I don't think she knew, either.
     
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Apr 29, 2008 , 08:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
Na I think she is trying to say that she is just as "human" as him but has no clue as to who he really is which makes it so much ironic.

The other Cylons have no clue who the final 5 are and aren't even allowed to think about who they might be.
That scene is all about the subtext: you have a Cylon who is claiming to be as, or more, human than a human. The human she's talking to is, in fact, a cylon, and is wondering how human he is at all. To me this could be the beginning of a theme which will take us to the end of the series: what if there's actually little or no difference between cylon and human?

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There are essentially three possible ending:

1) All, or enough, of the cylons are destroyed to reduce their threat to an acceptable level;
2) All, or enough, of the humans are destroyed to reduce their threat to an acceptable level;
3) Something Else, which allows some kind of truce between the two. This, to me, would require some kind of meeting of the minds.
The era of anthropomorphizing hardware is over.
     
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Apr 30, 2008 , 10:49 AM
 
I thought "Escape Velocity" showed an important step in the self-discovery of the "revealed four" Cylons.

Tory seems to enjoy some sort of superiority in being a Cylon while Col. Thigh seems revolted by it. They could find themselves on opposite sides of the Cylon Civil War with Tory joining Cavil's "hard-liners" and Thigh joining Six's "progressive" group. Anders and Tyrol seem too preoccupied with their current human relationships to have explored their road to self-discovery.

Baltar is also creating a new rift in the fleet between his "progressive" religious followers and the old-school religious "hard-liners."

Theory #69824.

Perhaps the "progressives" on both sides (Human and Cylon) will find common ground as they move closer to Earth. Perhaps even an alliance. Also, The final Cylon could be the one who brings them (Human and Cylon Progressives) together. Following this theory, Baltar would be the only one capable of doing this.

Think about it. Head-Six and Head-Baltar could be a part of their original programing. They continue to influence each other even when they are apart. Six was meant to divide the Cylons and Baltar was meant to divide the Humans.
     
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Apr 30, 2008 , 11:55 AM
 
BUT BALTAR IS NOT THE FINAL CYLON, so says RDM.
     
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Apr 30, 2008 , 12:06 PM
 
RDM has been programed to say that.
     
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Apr 30, 2008 , 12:17 PM
 
And he has a plan.
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Apr 30, 2008 , 11:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sourbook View Post
Think about it. Head-Six and Head-Baltar could be a part of their original programing. They continue to influence each other even when they are apart. Six was meant to divide the Cylons and Baltar was meant to divide the Humans.
If Head-Six means that Baltar is the Final One, then Head-Baltar means that Six is the Final One.

I agree that Head-Six and Head-Baltar probably have something to do with the Final One and that they appear to have something to do with causing divisions, but they don't mean that Baltar is the Final One.
     
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Apr 30, 2008 , 11:49 PM
 
I wonder why head six is trying to set up baltar as a God when she says there is only one god. Seems like blasphemy to me.
     
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May 1, 2008 , 12:01 AM
 
Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
I wonder why head six is trying to set up baltar as a God when she says there is only one god. Seems like blasphemy to me.
Isn't that kind of like how some people consider Jesus to be not only the son of God, but rather God himself? I don't get it but I've heard that.
     
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May 1, 2008 , 08:32 AM
 
he's not a god, he's a prophet, and as such, touched by god.
     
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May 2, 2008 , 06:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
I wonder why head six is trying to set up baltar as a God when she says there is only one god. Seems like blasphemy to me.
I never got that impression. From the beginning, it's always been Head Six trying to turn Baltar into the Hand of God, or the instrument by which God acts through.

His cult followers may see him as a spiritual leader, but I don't think they're making him out to be a living deity.
     
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May 2, 2008 , 11:38 AM
 
I think that Lawyer is the last Cylon. And I'm not the only one.

The Final Cylon of Battlestar Galactica - Episode by Episode Commentary

To quote:

"He terrified and stunted Baltar, duped a conniving cylon, tore apart a father and son and then freed Gaius Baltar (and stole the President's glasses!). He enraged the entire fleet by representing Baltar while teaching a lesson on their flawed system AND pulled their heartstrings at the same time. All while staying relatively under the radar and being the focus of NO ONE'S wrath in the process. Then, he just vanished into the crowd. "

It makes sense, but knowing Moore, it'll be boxey
     
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May 2, 2008 , 03:55 PM
 
Ya I was thinking the lawyer would be a good choice also but they got to bring him back some more before they make the revelation or people won't remember who he is.
     
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May 2, 2008 , 10:21 PM
 
The pace, she needs to pick up.
     
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May 3, 2008 , 05:18 AM
 
True, this is the last season. There's no time left for building the suspense. One more episode of Baltar giving the same stupid sermon to those airheads for 15 minutes and I'm gonna puke.
I love the U.S., but we need some time apart.
     
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May 3, 2008 , 08:13 PM
 
This week Starbuck mentioned a "sound" associated with the path to earth. This is another parallel with the Ship of Lights. For some unknown reason it made a loud sound when it approached. The ability or not of sound to travel through space was never addressed.
     
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May 5, 2008 , 11:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by scottiB View Post
The pace, she needs to pick up.
Ha! That's what I was thinking.

I miss the real conflict from the Pegasus episodes. Those were some good watchin'!

I'm ready to skip the next few episodes and wait for the final 3-4 hours because this is just dragging on. However, I will still watch.

I just hope that RDM adn company do not write something lame in the end. They say the journey is the adventure, not the destination. Bullsh*t. If this has a lame ending, I will feel betrayed and cheated... cheated of 80 hours of watching it unfold.
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May 5, 2008 , 11:32 AM
 
Yeah, they need to do some cool stuff, and soon. The last episode was SO boring. Nothing happened until the last two minutes! Ack, so disappointing. The first couple seasons were really strong but it's really dragging now. Sometimes I wish they had only gotten approved for a half-season for Season 4 so they'd have to wrap things up sooner.

If I wanted to watch the hand-wringing of unlikable, angst-filled characters, I'd watch a soap opera.
     
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May 5, 2008 , 02:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by Luca Rescigno View Post

If I wanted to watch the hand-wringing of unlikable, angst-filled characters, I'd watch a soap opera.
that's exactly what we thought after watching it last night. What a frakking soap opera.

Maybe BSG will discover Earth and land in Jericho. The characters sure would fit in. Grrr. Just kidding -- Jericho was rough. But season 4 sure is moving slow.
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May 5, 2008 , 02:22 PM
 
Huh, I actually found myself wishing it would get more into the characters' heads. Like, it seems like Athena might have some useful insight about the Cylon Civil War, and her husband seemed to be totally ignoring that, but it didn't matter because she was basically just filling the role of Mutineer #3.
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