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mrtew · May 17, 2008, 08:59 AM

Yeah I think this season is really good. Voodoo's posts about how bad it is make me realize that. Of course they're going to try everything. They are desperate and being hunted and clueless. They are not sitting comfortably in their livingrooms wondering what's going to happen. They are totally freaking out as to what to do and are starting to turn on eachother. Not to mention that they've been informed that there are more Cylons in their midst.

analogue SPRINKLES · May 17, 2008, 09:05 AM

That last episode was one of the best I have seen since Eye of Jupiter. Amazingly done.

I wonder what they are doing with Hera and 6. Remember in season 1 when Headsix told Baltar that the baby in the opera house was her and baltar's child and it will be with them soon? Baltar couldn't understand how it could be his child from someone in his head.

Perhaps they are getting back to explaining that now.

voodoo · May 17, 2008, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by jokell82

If you're so convinced the show is trash, stop watching and especially stop posting in here. I *loved* this episode.

When you learn to read, comprehend and then post, you will have explained how your own suggestion is worthless.

Note: just because I quoted only one paragraph of your post doesn't mean the rest of it made any sense, quite the contrary.

voodoo · May 17, 2008, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by mrtew

Yeah I think this season is really good. Voodoo's posts about how bad it is make me realize that. Of course they're going to try everything. They are desperate and being hunted and clueless. They are not sitting comfortably in their livingrooms wondering what's going to happen. They are totally freaking out as to what to do and are starting to turn on eachother. Not to mention that they've been informed that there are more Cylons in their midst.

That is certainly a 'glass half full' point of view. I can be sympathetic to that, it's just that I suspect the glass is in fact half full of trash.

Pacing is a mantra in moviemaking and while certainly less crucial in TV series, it is there. Excepting your Guiding Lights, your Bold and the Beautiful and your BSG. Has it ever occurred to you that more than half of your average BSG episode could and should have ended on the proverbial editing floor?

Sometimes movies are just so great and the acting so stunning that a director or producer just can't find it in himself to cut it. If only that were the case. There are very many bad actors in BSG and they get far too much screen-time.

BSG never manages to rise out of mediocracy and mostly it is the fault of editing (i.e. slow pace) and bad actors.. not to mention the plot which has fans defending it with guesswork. Well that's quality writing if ever I saw it. Oh no the other thing..

Uncle Skeleton · May 17, 2008, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by jokell82

Yeah, let's fit in finding Kara, sending the Demetrius off on a classified mission, finding a basestar, creating an alliance with the cylons, going back to the fleet, and then having the basestar jump away with half the viper squadron and the president in a single episode. Heck, we may even have room for a single line of dialog in that episode!

They've done it before, remember the "one year later..."? They cylons took over a whole planet in like 10 seconds

Chuckit · 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Yeah I totally expected them to avoid the main plot for at least a few more episodes.

Also, here's an idea: let's go into this enemy base-ship and hook up their AI and hope nothing bad happens.. not the sharpest knives in the drawer, are they?

Had this been the first episode of season 4, I would have had some faith left in the series. This is trash. I don't mind watching it until the end, they tricked me through 3 pretty ok seasons, so I might as well. However, it's still trash.

Again: You seriously think the episodes now are less interesting on average than "33" or "Act of Contrition"? They're more ham-fisted than "Litmus"? I think you've just got your opinion still lingering from the end of last season and aren't able to see past it to realize what good TV we're getting these days.

goMac · May 17, 2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Also, here's an idea: let's go into this enemy base-ship and hook up their AI and hope nothing bad happens.. not the sharpest knives in the drawer, are they?

Yeah, they should have expected that an AI whose jump capabilities had been disabled would be able to jump.

jokell82 · May 17, 2008, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

When you learn to read, comprehend and then post, you will have explained how your own suggestion is worthless.

Note: just because I quoted only one paragraph of your post doesn't mean the rest of it made any sense, quite the contrary.

Originally Posted by voodoo

That is certainly a 'glass half full' point of view. I can be sympathetic to that, it's just that I suspect the glass is in fact half full of trash.

Pacing is a mantra in moviemaking and while certainly less crucial in TV series, it is there. Excepting your Guiding Lights, your Bold and the Beautiful and your BSG. Has it ever occurred to you that more than half of your average BSG episode could and should have ended on the proverbial editing floor?

Sometimes movies are just so great and the acting so stunning that a director or producer just can't find it in himself to cut it. If only that were the case. There are very many bad actors in BSG and they get far too much screen-time.

BSG never manages to rise out of mediocracy and mostly it is the fault of editing (i.e. slow pace) and bad actors.. not to mention the plot which has fans defending it with guesswork. Well that's quality writing if ever I saw it. Oh no the other thing..

Seriously, why do you even watch the show?

Mithras · May 17, 2008, 05:49 PM

Okay, I'm trying not to read any of the recent posts. Where The Foo is Guess What's Coming To Dinner? Neither scifi.com nor Hulu have seen fit to post it today. Grrrr.

Visnaut · May 17, 2008, 11:01 PM

If we stop feeding the troll, he won't come back.

Anyway, last night's episode, for me, was the best since Exodus Part II, and Resurrection Ship Part I. Just the way things were set in motion was great. I totally didn't see Gina biting it.

And I'm more convinced than ever that Gaeta is the last cylon.

Wiskedjak · May 17, 2008, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Fine, but like I said.. In star Trek it meant the future.

Ultimately, 'death' is the future.

Don Pickett · May 17, 2008, 11:51 PM

Holy crap. That was an episode and a half.

edit: Gaeta is now my pick for the final cylon.

Don Pickett · May 17, 2008, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

Pacing is a mantra in moviemaking. . .

Nope. It's character, dialogue, plot, in that order. Pacing is an entirely different worry as can be seen by the radically different pacing of My Dinner with Andre and Blade Runner, two radically different movies with radically different pacing.

analogue SPRINKLES · May 18, 2008, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Visnaut

I totally didn't see Gina biting it.

I'm not so sure she is dead as next weeks trailer shows a woman in sick bay with an oxygen mask on her face that looks just like her.

Don Pickett · May 18, 2008, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

I'm not so sure she is dead as next weeks trailer shows a woman in sick bay with an oxygen mask on her face that looks just like her.

I didn't see that either. I hope she didn't die, as she's become a very interesting character. Also gives the writers the ability to explore forgiveness.

Weyland-Yutani · May 18, 2008, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by goMac

Yeah, they should have expected that an AI whose jump capabilities had been disabled would be able to jump when it was re-enabled.

Fixed and uh yes?

Chuckit · May 18, 2008, 11:35 AM

It wasn't the turning the AI off that disabled the ship's jump capabilities — they turned the Hybrid off because the Basestar's jump capabilities were down and needed to use the Raptor's jump drive.

Visnaut · May 18, 2008, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

I'm not so sure she is dead as next weeks trailer shows a woman in sick bay with an oxygen mask on her face that looks just like her.

Yep, I saw that too, but tried to forget it. The previews that Space runs up here in Canada for next week's episodes are way too spoiler-laden. You can figure out most of the episode just by watching them, which ruins the suspense that the show so carefully builds up. If it weren't for that preview, most people would have figured she had kicked the bucket.

I usually make it a habit to stop watching after the last bit, but last night my jaw was still hanging open from that ending. Brilliant stuff.

Don Pickett · May 18, 2008, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Visnaut

I usually make it a habit to stop watching after the last bit. . .

I do this to, but for different reasons: I want to be completely surprised by what I see week to week, which is why I read no BG websites, only post in or read this BG thread, and make sure I don't click on it until I've seen the latest episode.