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ambush · Sep 25, 2004, 02:07 PM

It's coming soon. There's a nice series of articles in this week's La Presse (daily newspaper)

Can you imagine life without plastic? Can you imagine the chaos when the last barrels will be pumped off? The market is going to collapse soon.

Invading Middle East country is a futile. In thirty to forty years, there will be effectively no oil remaining. It's going to be cool.

Maybe we'll have to focus on real values instead of money? Love for example? I wish it could be tomorrow.

Just tell me it won't be an excuse for giant wars and I'll be happy. God bless planet Earth, a new era is coming for us. I could not be more excited about it. Imagine living like in the old days.... yeah. This is going to be exciting.

BlueSky · Sep 25, 2004, 02:09 PM

Invest in hydrogen fuel cell stuff.

the_glassman · Sep 25, 2004, 02:11 PM

Despite what some media outlets would lead you to believe, we aren't going to be running out of oil anytime soon. In-fact it won't be in our lifetime. Sure they will continue to drive the prices up, and the rich will get richer doing so, but the well isn't go dry anytime soon despite what you may have read or heard. Though it is rather alarming to see the increased amount that the nation of China as a whole has consumed and will be using for it's foreseeable future. That's what happens when modern industrialization happens.

MindFad · Sep 25, 2004, 02:13 PM

4 MORE YEARS

ambush · Sep 25, 2004, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Bluesky:
Invest in hydrogen fuel cell stuff.

I didn't know they could make plastic with that.

Oh and... URL for "not in our lifetime" ??

The evil medias (independant too) are telling me it's for 30-50max years.

the_glassman · 02:30 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
I didn't know they could make plastic with that.

Oh and... URL for "not in our lifetime" ??

The evil medias (independant too) are telling me it's for 30-50max years.

Thermal Depolymerization

Pig Feces

We're not running out of oil!

Invictus · Sep 25, 2004, 02:27 PM

In 1970 or thereabouts it was said that in 30 years oil would be gone nada, zip, zero.

All the known oil reserves and estimates of further reserves...30 YEARS!!!

Scared the crap outta me...

Before most of you were born.

Well guess what...that's what is being said again.

And I could care less...it's your turn to be scared. I'm jumping into my hummer and cruising the short hop to the corner store for some white bread and 3% homo milk.

rozwado1 · Sep 25, 2004, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Invictus:
for some white bread and 3% homo milk.

Haha. homo milk.

TheBadgerHunter · Sep 25, 2004, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
It's coming soon. There's a nice series of articles in this week's La Presse (daily newspaper)

Can you imagine life without plastic? Can you imagine the chaos when the last barrels will be pumped off? The market is going to collapse soon.

Invading Middle East country is a futile. In thirty to forty years, there will be effectively no oil remaining. It's going to be cool.

Maybe we'll have to focus on real values instead of money? Love for example? I wish it could be tomorrow.

Just tell me it won't be an excuse for giant wars and I'll be happy. God bless planet Earth, a new era is coming for us. I could not be more excited about it. Imagine living like in the old days.... yeah. This is going to be exciting.

You know, there was hate before oil. The world's oil supply going dangerously low won't change us into a big ol' ball of brotherly love. Oh, and word to the uninformed: the consumer market will be cut off long before we run out of oil. An the US has enough oil to keep a strong military.

You're in that college daze right? All full of impractical ideals and such? Wake up and smell the petroleum.

TheBadgerHunter · Sep 25, 2004, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
I didn't know they could make plastic with that.

Oh and... URL for "not in our lifetime" ??

The evil medias (independant too) are telling me it's for 30-50max years.

Yes, because all the oil producing (and stockpiling) countries are telling them. Suuurrreee.

Invictus · Sep 25, 2004, 02:43 PM

Hemp will save the world. You can make almost anything from that plant, man.

http://www.thehia.org/

Zimphire · Sep 25, 2004, 02:46 PM

Invictus · Sep 25, 2004, 02:48 PM

And beware of Soylent Industries products. Something strange about there new 10 w 30 motor oil!

Invictus · Sep 25, 2004, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

Iraqi prisoner???

BlackGriffen · Sep 25, 2004, 02:51 PM

Thermal depolymerization (also: here and here).

BG

TheBadgerHunter · Sep 25, 2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Invictus:
Hemp will save the world. You can make almost anything from that plant, man.

http://www.thehia.org/

Damn hippies

Fyre4ce · Sep 25, 2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
It's coming soon. There's a nice series of articles in this week's La Presse (daily newspaper)

Can you imagine life without plastic? Can you imagine the chaos when the last barrels will be pumped off? The market is going to collapse soon.

Invading Middle East country is a futile. In thirty to forty years, there will be effectively no oil remaining. It's going to be cool.

Maybe we'll have to focus on real values instead of money? Love for example? I wish it could be tomorrow.

Just tell me it won't be an excuse for giant wars and I'll be happy. God bless planet Earth, a new era is coming for us. I could not be more excited about it. Imagine living like in the old days.... yeah. This is going to be exciting.

Several things.

First of all, it's highly unlikely that everything will be normal one day, and the next day all the gas stations shut down and there's no more gas anywhere. What will probably happen is that the price will continue to rise, at increasingly faster rates, until it forces people to find alternatives.

Second of all, I am an environmentalist, but only so far as it serves human interest. For example, I don't like leaded gasoline. I hate it. Why? Not because using it harms our precious planet. I hate it because it pollutes the air we breathe. I don't like heavy metal poisoning, I don't like cancer, and I don't like birth defects. If we could find a way to rape the planet without having an effect on humanity, I would be all for it! But, that's impossible. Despite all of our technology, our fate is intimately tied to that of the planet. So when environmentalists talk about "saving the Earth" it really pisses me off. They are missing the point. It was never about saving the Earth - it's about saving ourselves!!

EDIT: One more thing I want to add. George Carlin had a comedy skit about precisely this. He said that he's tired of hearing environmentalists drone on about "saving the planet." He said this planet will shake us off like a bunch of fleas. And he's right! And that's precisely what I want to keep from happening! I don't care about the planet, I care about us!

TheBadgerHunter · Sep 25, 2004, 03:16 PM

Exactly. No matter what we do the planet is going to out live us so we should take care of it where it concerns us. If there's mutual benefit.. well great.

Superchicken · Sep 25, 2004, 06:59 PM

An interesting point was made that humanity's fate is tied to the earth... and interesting point is made that humanity was given the earth to use and care for. Makes sense that when we abuse it we reap the negative fruits we deserve.

demograph68 · Sep 25, 2004, 07:00 PM

I like the smell of gasoline.

wtf_reporter · Sep 25, 2004, 07:05 PM

I really hope it does, I am tired of hearing how islam is the fastest growing religion in the world!!

Eriamjh · Sep 25, 2004, 09:08 PM

When we are forced to do it, recycling will become more important. We will recycle everything eventually.

"This beer can is made from old robots."
"And robots are made from old beer cans."
"And that sandwich you're eating was made from old sandwiches."
"Ewwww."
- Futurama

Lancer409 · Sep 26, 2004, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by rozwado1:
Haha. homo milk.

haha .. u laughed =P

the_glassman · Oct 12, 2004, 05:54 PM

Gas keeps going up, not that I really care. I ride my bike for the most part.

ambush · Oct 12, 2004, 06:02 PM

record prices per barrel baby.

that's only the beginning.

Nicko · Oct 12, 2004, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
record prices per barrel baby.

that's only the beginning.

Its not the end of oil by any measure...but its probably the end of cheap oil.

Twilly Spree · Oct 12, 2004, 06:14 PM

Here is a funny thought.

The carbon released in one year's worth of burning fossil fuels equals the carbon that would be released if every tree, forest and shrub living on the Earth today was burned.

True story, yes.

That is why I'm glad George Bush is pouring millions of dollars into alternative fuel research.

the_glassman · Oct 12, 2004, 06:18 PM

What would I do without my Astroglide?

the_glassman · Oct 12, 2004, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by Twilly Spree:
Here is a funny thought.

The carbon released in one year's worth of burning fossil fuels equals the carbon that would be released if every tree, forest and shrub living on the Earth today was burned.

True story, yes.

That is why I'm glad George Bush is pouring millions of dollars into alternative fuel research.

At the same time Bush rendered the clean air act useless, gave tax cuts for gas guzzling SUV's and adapted poor CAFE standards. Remember this guy made his money off of oil! We already have alternative fuels, like Biodieseal, Hydrogen, etc... It's going to be a long time before we aren't reliant on the major oil companies, and thats just the way they want it.

Beewee · Oct 12, 2004, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
I didn't know they could make plastic with that.

They can make it out of plant material. Purely organic plastic, the only thing that worries me is how they would prevent it from biodegrading, some pretty nasty stuff is stored in plastic containers...

Twilly Spree · Oct 12, 2004, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by the_glassman:
At the same time Bush rendered the clean air act useless, gave tax cuts for gas guzzling SUV's and adapted poor CAFE standards. Remember this guy made his money off of oil! We already have alternative fuels, like Biodieseal, Hydrogen, etc... It's going to be a long time before we aren't reliant on the major oil companies, and thats just the way they want it.

We have at least 5 decades to switch from fossil fuels. Don't jump the gun now son

PS. I have no idea how old you are - it's an expression we have here down south.

MacNStein · Oct 12, 2004, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by the_glassman:
What would I do without my Astroglide?

Date young chicks, then you won't need it.

d4nth3m4n · Oct 12, 2004, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Date young chicks, then you won't need it.

this man speaketh the truth.

mrtew · Oct 12, 2004, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Twilly Spree:
That is why I'm glad George Bush is pouring millions of dollars into alternative fuel research.

You've really had the wool pulled over your eyes. The only fuels Bush is pushing are the ones that he knows will never pan out and compete with oil. It takes 27 gallons of gasoline to produce the equivalent of one gallon of hydrogen fuel. Rather than pushing for conservation he's investing YOUR money in his buddys' research programs who's only real goal is to make you think there's something better on the horizon so you won't worry about how much gas we are using today.

wdlove · Oct 13, 2004, 11:18 AM

It's something that is bound to happen. Our resources are finite. I saw an article that China is the second importer of oil after the US, so that gives me some pause for the future. I do think that scientists will find reasonable alternatives.

smacintush · Oct 13, 2004, 11:56 AM

Invention is born of necessity. You people shouldn't worry so much.

When the time comes, capitalism will solve the problem and those that come up with the new and unique solutions will be accused of being greedy conglomerates.

phantomdragonz · Oct 13, 2004, 12:44 PM

BIODIESEL!! honestly people, I know and have seen vehicles have run on pure grease... This guy I now gets all his fuel from a chinese restaurant that is near him, and because of our altitude, he has to mix it with some real diesel, but if he were to actually have a refining plant in his garage, he could run pure refined grease... He filters it a little bit, but with a little more work he could run just the grease... this can also be made from corn, and with the current atkins dieters, there should be a lot of grease around =)

Zach

The Windozer · Oct 13, 2004, 01:14 PM

Prices will go up, and that means Norway's big bag of oil money will need to be replaced with an even bigger bag! In fifty years time, we'll buy the world! And then all you poor buggers will have to find a new planet, because we're not sharing!

CharlesS · Oct 13, 2004, 01:18 PM

To everyone who says we're not going to run out of oil: Oil is a non-renewable resource. There's a limited amount of it in the Earth. It isn't getting replenished, and therefore it will run out. It's only a question of when: now or later. Either way, since it is definitely not going to last forever, we should be looking for something else to use.

This unfortunately necessary obvious statement brought to you by CharlesS.

jcadam · Oct 13, 2004, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Date young chicks, then you won't need it.

Astroglide is a water-based lube, so you should be fine if the earth runs out of oil.

You do sometimes need lube when dealing with young chicks, some orifices don't provide adequate natural lubrication.

GoGoReggieXPowars · Oct 13, 2004, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by rozwado1:
Haha. homo milk.

Comes from lesbian cows. Truth!

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Date young chicks, then you won't need it.

Rather depends on the chick, don't it?

djohnson · Oct 13, 2004, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
To everyone who says we're not going to run out of oil: Oil is a non-renewable resource. There's a limited amount of it in the Earth. It isn't getting replenished, and therefore it will run out. It's only a question of when: now or later. Either way, since it is definitely not going to last forever, we should be looking for something else to use.

This unfortunately necessary obvious statement brought to you by CharlesS.

Prove it is non-renewable.