[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/S...314466,00.html

[Spheric Harlot]

40 quatloos on the one with the one true religion!

[cszar2001]

50 bucks on the one with the holy handgrenade.

[Sandbaggins]

Reading comprehension people!

Its Greek Orthodox not Orthodox Jews.

[willed]

I went there this summer, and it really is tragic - what is supposed to be the holiest site in Christendom is in fact the site of the largest amount of petty bickering instead. It was an amazing place in some ways though; it is, unlike many Holy Land sites, rather historically sound, and when we went there were hardly any other tourists (due to the violence in the area I guess), so I was able to spend some time alone in the Holy Sepulchre itself. It was moving, despite my personal convictions.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Sandbaggins:


Reading comprehension people!

Its Greek Orthodox not Orthodox Jews.

Nooo they are Jooooooooooooooooz!



I think the SWF has won the award of posting the most inane religious topics in the lounge.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by willed:
I went there this summer, and it really is tragic - what is supposed to be the holiest site in Christendom is in fact the site of the largest amount of petty bickering instead. It was an amazing place in some ways though; it is, unlike many Holy Land sites, rather historically sound, and when we went there were hardly any other tourists (due to the violence in the area I guess), so I was able to spend some time alone in the Holy Sepulchre itself. It was moving, despite my personal convictions.

Yes it is sad. Alas, we are only human.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I think the SWF has won the award of posting the most inane religious topics in the lounge.

Quit stalking.

[MilkmanDan]

Hmmm.... I don't know. Jesus did have the whole moon walking thing down. Wait.. not moon walking, water walking. Either way, he could bust a move on the dance floor.

[theolein]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/S...314466,00.html

-1 Flamebait. If you'd bothered to RTFA instead of trying to bait the resident grammatically challenged obsessive, you'd have noticed that the fight was between Orthodox Christians and Franciscan monks.

I think you'd do everyone a favour if you'd just put your nemesis on ignore and avoid responding to and baiting the poor fellow.

Edit: Typo.

[killer_735]

Originally posted by theolein:
-1 Flaimebait. If you'd bothered to RTFA instead of trying to bait the resident grammatically challenged obsessive, you'd have noticed that the fight was between Orthodox Christians and Franciscan monks.

See, Walter, I told you, you're not even jewish!

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Quit stalking.

How you Jewin?


Anyway, he's post whoring not stalking. Even at that his two posts aren't that stupid.

[ambush]

LOL religion... why does it even exist?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Quit stalking.

Poking fun doesn't = stalking.

[Logic]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
40 quatloos on the one with the one true religion!

You mean the Muslims? Since they have been trusted with the key to the tomb

[itai195]

Originally posted by willed:
I went there this summer, and it really is tragic - what is supposed to be the holiest site in Christendom is in fact the site of the largest amount of petty bickering instead. It was an amazing place in some ways though; it is, unlike many Holy Land sites, rather historically sound, and when we went there were hardly any other tourists (due to the violence in the area I guess), so I was able to spend some time alone in the Holy Sepulchre itself. It was moving, despite my personal convictions.

Historically sound? In what way? Have you heard the story of how they determined the location?

It is an impressive building, I hadn't visited it before this summer. I'm sure the Dome of the Rock is also impressive, but I'll pass on trying to get in there. It is sad to see the lack of tourism -- I'm sure it's really put a pinch on the Arab markets throughout the old city. When I was there ten years ago it was pretty crowded.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Logic:
You mean the Muslims? Since they have been trusted with the key to the tomb

Wait a minute...



That is probably were the WMDs are....

[ThisGuy]

"Two years ago, Ethiopian and Copt monks threw stones at each other over rights to the church roof."

Frickin' hi-larry-us. Religion can make people kooky.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ThisGuy:
"Two years ago, Ethiopian and Copt monks threw stones at each other over rights to the church roof."

Frickin' hi-larry-us. Religion can make people kooky.

Religion cannot physically make anyone anything.

People are kooky.

[Landos Mustache]

Originally posted by ThisGuy:
Frickin' hi-larry-us. Religion can make people kooky.

Like that is breaking news

[ThisGuy]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Religion cannot physically make anyone anything.

People are kooky.

mentally?

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by ambush:
LOL religion... why does it even exist?

Ahuh, this coming from the guy who wants the oil to run out so we can start our utopian society based on love, marijuana, and hemp related products.

[Landos Mustache]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Ahuh, this coming from the guy who wants the oil to run out so we can start our utopian society based on love, marijuana, and hemp related products.

Sounds better then the whole Jesus thing to me.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Sounds better then the whole Jesus thing to me.

Meh, no ones making you believe in him. Frankly I enjoy the cultural diversity of religion, but whatever floats your boat.

[Landos Mustache]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Meh, no ones making you believe in him. Frankly I enjoy the cultural diversity of religion, but whatever floats your boat.

yes, but I do have the finger pointed at me and my rights suppressed in his name.

[Beewee]

Fighting Monk Action Figure, with "Holy Punch Action" only $12.95, buy while supplies last!

[Atomic Rooster]

Where wuz jeebuz?

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
yes, but I do have the finger pointed at me and my rights suppressed in his name.

Nope, but you probably will. People will be like that to whomever they can, with whatever excuse they can get.

An you're in canada so they aren't/

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ThisGuy:
mentally?

It cannot do anything of the sort.

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
yes, but I do have the finger pointed at me and my rights suppressed in his name.

Really? Do you? In Canada? I think you are being a drama queen again.

[cold_reality]

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
yes, but I do have the finger pointed at me and my rights suppressed in his name.

The world isn't fair?! Shocking...

[AKcrab]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Religion cannot physically make anyone anything.

I thought you believed in 'laying of hands' or 'healing'. Maybe that wasn't you?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by AKcrab:
I thought you believed in 'laying of hands' or 'healing'. Maybe that wasn't you?

Religion doesn't heal.

[UR-20]

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
yes, but I do have the finger pointed at me and my rights suppressed in his name.

First off, people don't need religion to not like someone.
Second, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't believe in God anyway, so why should it matter what the "reasons" behind someone else's persecutions are?

[Zimphire]

Yeah, I'm a "Christian Kaffir" and I don't care.

[ambush]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Religion doesn't heal.

But it did act as an excuse for many wars!!

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ambush:
But it did act as an excuse for many wars!!

Yes, by humans..

For some reason I keep getting the feeling that I am having the same conversation in here about 10 times with the same people?

[Xeo]

Today in my World Religions class, we were talking about Islam. The fact came up that Muslims view Muhammad's lifestyle as the correct one, and he is the ultimate role-model for all walks of life. Then our professor, who doesn't know much about Christianity, asked if it was common for people to strive to live their lives as Jesus did. One girl said no (pretty sure she was Christian, although apparently not a very good one) and another girl said yes, and gave "WWJD" as an example. Our professor asked about the wristbands a bit more, and I mentioned it was a fad. The girl spoke up and said, "No, it wasn't a fad, I think most take it seriously." I wasn't arguing that people didn't take it seriously.

So my question is, can't something be a fad and yet people take it seriously? I mean, it hasn't been around all that long, and when it started, it was everywhere. Now it's not as big. Sure seems like a fad to me. Just a "trendy" way of proclaiming your faith that you take seriously, right?

(Just felt like posting this here because starting my own would have just gone down the tubes like every other thread that mentions religion does.)

[Xeo]

Originally posted by UR-20:
First off, people don't need religion to not like someone.
Second, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't believe in God anyway, so why should it matter what the "reasons" behind someone else's persecutions are?

I think because the masses, influenced heavily by their religious upbringings, give him less rights as a gay person, although Canada is getting better.

[Zimphire]

WWJD is a good question, and yes, it's a fad to some, and serious to others.

A reminder I believe.

I know guy that used to have a ring that said "Jesus" around it.

Same idea.

[ambush]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Ahuh, this coming from the guy who wants the oil to run out so we can start our utopian society based on love, marijuana, and hemp related products.

You might be interested in quoting me.
Because I never actually said that.

Putting words in others' mouth Dubya style isn't right.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
WWJD is a good question, and yes, it's a fad to some, and serious to others.

But I think that WWJD was definitely a fad to the culture, and yet everyone involved took it seriously to some degree. I mean, if you weren't serious about your religion, you wouldn't be wearing that to school. I took a lot of crap in high school for wearing pro-Christian shirts, and this is in a town where they all WERE Christian.

So I think it's both serious and a fad to everyone, rather than split up between people. And it'll die off as something else comes into style. There are trendy things for all walks of life.

[ambush]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yes, by humans..

For some reason I keep getting the feeling that I am having the same conversation in here about 10 times with the same people?

Lay off the crack.


There's NO ONE to help us out there. No one. We have to rely on ourselves, not an higher being.

GOD does NOT exist.

Dude... how is god helping the poor people of Haiti? Already one of the worst place to live on Earth. And now there's a catastrophe that makes them even poorer. God does NOT exist.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ambush:
Lay off the crack.

Cliche` response #1

There's NO ONE to help us out there. No one. We have to rely on ourselves, not an higher being.

GOD does NOT exist.

Ok smarty pants. Please provide proof to back up your "facts"

Dude... how is god helping the poor people of Haiti? Already one of the worst place to live on Earth. And now there's a catastrophe that makes them even poorer. God does NOT exist.

We've had this discussion before ad-nauseam. You have a bad memory. Do us all a favor and use the search function. Look for "The fall of man" You'll probably see your name in the conversation at least once.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by UR-20:
First off, people don't need religion to not like someone.
Second, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't believe in God anyway, so why should it matter what the "reasons" behind someone else's persecutions are?

Well for one, they use God and religion as an excuse to discriminate to and beat another person up.

Secondly they deny other people rights based on "what the bible says" such as gay marriages.

If they don't allow gay marriages in Catholic churches that is fine. Problem is they protest and try everything they can to make sure their beliefs are upheld in every regard including the law.

That is what is wrong.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Well for one, they use God and religion as an excuse to discriminate to and beat another person up.

Who is they? Very select few Christians?

Some gays are really sluts that sleep around. Does that mean you are?

Secondly they deny other people rights based on "what the bible says" such as gay marriages.

Cept I know people that aren't religious that is against it too. But I never hear you complain about them

If they don't allow gay marriages in Catholic churches that is fine. Problem is they protest and try everything they can to make sure their beliefs are upheld in every regard including the law.

That is what is wrong.

They do? In Canada?

[ambush]

I suggest you complete university zimphire...

[cold_reality]

Originally posted by Xeo:
I think because the masses, influenced heavily by their religious upbringings, give him less rights as a gay person, although Canada is getting better.

Upbringing by definition is "bias". Throw religion out of the equation and you still get a parent instilling his/her values on the child from birth. And since there is no such thing as a completely open, unbias person (be they straight, homosexual, or other) the child they raise will have many of the bias views that the parent holds. Why blame religion, why not blame the parents education or lack of it, or their status in the community...there are an infinite number things that influence that masses. Religion is picked on the most because its an easy target.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ambush:
I suggest you complete university zimphire...

scoot

Go

http://forums.macnn.com/search.php

[Xeo]

Originally posted by cold_reality:
Upbringing by definition is "bias". Throw religion out of the equation and you still get a parent instilling his/her values on the child from birth. And since there is no such thing as a completely open, unbias person (be they straight, homosexual, or other) the child they raise will have many of the bias views that the parent holds. Why blame religion, why not blame the parents education or lack of it, or their status in the community...there are an infinite number things that influence that masses. Religion is picked on the most because its an easy target.

Many, many people quote the Bible and use religion as an excuse for their actions and views. You couldn't find many adults who back themselves up with "'cause my daddy said so."

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Xeo:
Many, many people quote the Bible and use religion as an excuse for their actions and views. You couldn't find many adults who back themselves up with "'cause my daddy said so."

Yes, and some people blame Ambulances.