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brapper · Oct 7, 2004, 01:05 AM

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D85IAHA80.html

How dare he!

MindFad · Oct 7, 2004, 01:07 AM

"It's ironic that Republicans have no problem with allowing assault weapons out on our streets, yet they don't want to put clean underwear in the hands of our slacker youth," Moore said. "The Republicans seem more interested in locking me up for trying to encourage people to participate in our democracy than locking up bin Laden for his attacks on our democracy."

Booya!

d4nth3m4n · Oct 7, 2004, 01:08 AM

pfft underwear. start handing out socks and you might get more of a stir. especially now that its getting cold again.

demograph68 · Oct 7, 2004, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
...especially now that its getting cold again.

No kidding!

fireside · Oct 7, 2004, 01:40 AM

wait, so you can't tell someone to vote for anyone, but the presidential candidates can tell you to vote for them?

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by fireside:
wait, so you can't tell someone to vote for anyone, but the presidential candidates can tell you to vote for them?

"an election law provision that prohibits a person from contracting with another for something of value in exchange for agreeing to vote"

The only value Bush offers is more wars to give you a false sense of security.

Atomic Rooster · Oct 7, 2004, 02:05 AM

Toilet paper would good...I'm almost out.

businezguy · Oct 7, 2004, 02:12 AM

Yeah the only problem is Mr. Moore only seems to want Democrats to participate in democracy.

demograph68 · Oct 7, 2004, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by businezguy:
Yeah the only problem is Mr. Moore only seems to want Democrats to participate in democracy.

Xeo · Oct 7, 2004, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by businezguy:
Yeah the only problem is Mr. Moore only seems to want Democrats to participate in democracy.

Well of course. Anyone strong sided person would hope that only like-minds would go vote so that their candidate wins. But I'm guessing he was simply saying "go out and vote" rather than saying "go out and vote for Kerry."

I suppose the law is in place because if you weren't going to vote, then you don't really care. So if someone gives you something in exchange for a vote, you're probably going to vote for whoever the giver supports. And you're buying votes for a particular side which is not fair.

ASIMO · 03:10 AM

Originally posted by businezguy:
Yeah the only problem is Mr. Moore only seems to want Democrats to participate in democracy.

Actually, I think he is appealing to the Independents, Greens, Fence-Sitters, Disgruntled and Ashamed Republicans, Apathetics, Reformists, Libertarians, Unregistereds, and Idiots.

Did I miss anyone?

alphasubzero949 · Oct 7, 2004, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by ASIMO:
Actually, I think he is appealing to the Independents, Greens, Fence-Sitters, Disgruntled and Ashamed Republicans, Apathetics, Reformists, Libertarians, Unregistereds, and Idiots.

Did I miss anyone?

You missed Constitution, Peace and Freedom, Anarchists...

Zimphire · Oct 7, 2004, 06:33 AM

An Alias · Oct 7, 2004, 06:45 AM

Moore is cool, got to hand it to the guy, he sticks his head out more than most would.
Good idea about the voting sceme too, there's huge numbers of young 'uns who don't vote. Could make a major difference to the election if they weren't fartin around on their skateboards.

Buck_W · Oct 7, 2004, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/

Zimphire · Oct 7, 2004, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Buck_W:

http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/

Yeah, he really made an ass out of himself when O'Reilly interviewed him.

SeSawaya · Oct 7, 2004, 10:10 AM

Bill OReilly, theres a name you can trust

Fox

wulf · Oct 7, 2004, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yeah, he really made an ass out of himself when O'Reilly interviewed him.

But since O'Reilly regularly makes an ass out of himself, they came out pretty even.

turtle777 · Oct 7, 2004, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by wulf:
But since O'Reilly regularly makes an ass out of himself, they came out pretty even.

Hehe !

-t

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by wulf:
But since O'Reilly regularly makes an ass out of himself, they came out pretty even.

Show me one speech where bush didn't make an ass out of himself.

wulf · Oct 7, 2004, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Show me one speech where bush didn't make an ass out of himself.

goMac · Oct 7, 2004, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Show me one speech where bush didn't make an ass out of himself.

The Vice Presidential Debate.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 11:56 AM

This video is creepy as hell.

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show....vies&NSFW=

greenamp · Oct 7, 2004, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
"It's ironic that Republicans have no problem with allowing assault weapons out on our streets, yet they don't want to put clean underwear in the hands of our slacker youth," Moore said. "The Republicans seem more interested in locking me up for trying to encourage people to participate in our democracy than locking up bin Laden for his attacks on our democracy."

Booya!

Proof that the term "booya" is a painfully relative word.

SeSawaya · Oct 7, 2004, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
This video is creepy as hell.

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show....vies&NSFW=

Fear WILL keep people in line. Every dictator in history knew that. Works the same for us.

d4nth3m4n · Oct 7, 2004, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
This video is creepy as hell.

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show....vies&NSFW=

i dont know if i should laugh or cry.

Zimphire · Oct 7, 2004, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by SeSawaya:
Bill OReilly, theres a name you can trust

Fox

Whaa? Did you even read or see the interview?

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by SeSawaya:
Fear WILL keep people in line. Every dictator in history knew that. Works the same for us.

Why would you let that work? Something like that would not go over well here in Canada. That is scarier then terrorist!

Evan_11 · Oct 7, 2004, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Why would you let that work? Something like that would not go over well here in Canada. That is scarier then terrorist!

Ah ha! I just knew you had to be Canadian.

surly · Oct 7, 2004, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by SeSawaya:
Fear WILL keep people in line.

That's true. The fear that John Kerry could possibly become President of the United States is more than enough incentive to give Bush four more years.

Evan_11 · Oct 7, 2004, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

Muti-millionare Cry Baby.

MindFad · Oct 7, 2004, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by surly:
That's true. The fear that John Kerry could possibly become President of the United States is more than enough incentive to give Bush four more years.

Four more years of what?

hay guyz, we should keep this in the lounge for sure now

djohnson · Oct 7, 2004, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by SeSawaya:
Bill OReilly, theres a name you can trust

Fox

So you can trust the other liberal news stations with their completely unbiased opinions, right?

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Evan_11:
Muti-millionare Cry Baby.

Why is he a crybaby? I see more people with no evidence other to some Moore hate website that proves anything he says is untrue.

Those people are more crybabies then him.

PacHead · Oct 7, 2004, 02:18 PM

Michael Moore (the American Goebbels) is a big fat lying slob, making money off of dead Americans.

I seriously question the intelligence of anybody who finds his movie to be good, and I wouldn't let anybody into my house who spoke good things of his movie.

Making enemy propaganda movies at a time of war is treason IMO.

Evan_11 · Oct 7, 2004, 02:18 PM

dblpost

Evan_11 · Oct 7, 2004, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Evan_11:

The man is a hypocrite. He profits from the same greed that he protests.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Michael Moore (the American Goebbels) is a big fat lying slob, making money off of dead Americans.

Big and fat? Yes, prove he is a liar.

PacHead · Oct 7, 2004, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Big and fat? Yes, prove he is a liar.

He would still be a big fat liar, even if he only weighed 67 lbs.

His piece of crap movie has already been debunked countless times in the PL, and I'm not going to waste my time in trying to convince anybody.

Don't vote for Bush then, since you like Moore............Oh wait you're Canadian, you can't vote anyhow...........

MindFad · Oct 7, 2004, 02:29 PM

Dick Cheney is much, much more fitting for an American Goebbels, but Moore is an easy scapegoat. If anything, it gives us all something to whine about while we take our eyes off the ball.

Jaey · 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Why would you let that work? Something like that would not go over well here in Canada. That is scarier then terrorist!

But our great leader George Bush protects us from the terrorists.

It is my opinion that if actually stop and think about our country (the USA, that is), think about Iraq, think about terrorists... think about George Bush... You will realize that the USA is really ****ed up.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Jaey:
But our great leader George Bush protects us from the terrorists. How do we know?

It is my opinion that if actually stop and think about our country (the USA, that is), think about Iraq, think about terrorists... think about George Bush... You will realize that the USA is really ****ed up.

I would be more scared of a dictator running my country then terrorists.

AB^2=BCxAC · Oct 7, 2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Evan_11:
The man is a hypocrite. He profits from the same greed that he protests.

Show me one person who isn't a hypocrite for speaking out against a system they belong to. Show me one person so dam*ed objective that they can criticize anything without having just a little bit of hypocrisy.

The thing about being political is that it is entirely about self-interest, because if we all had the same voice, democracy wouldn't be a choir - it would be the sound of one hand clapping.

Jaey · Oct 7, 2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
I would be more scared of a dictator running my country then terrorists.

But our great leader provides us with so many benefits.
For example, the economy has barely dropped under him. We also killed all of those damn Iraqi terrorists. "Mission accomplished" is what I say. My brother who is a captain in the army may even survive and be back by 2008. Not to mention the wonderful tax cuts he gave me 'cause I'm rich. Now I can afford the villa in Jamaica I wanted. Oh, and that Bin Laden guy, I think we did a fantastic job of bringing him to justice. I mean, we almost caught him.

d4nth3m4n · Oct 7, 2004, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Evan_11:
The man is a hypocrite. He profits from the same greed that he protests.

yeah, that's why he is going to speak at george mason anyway. go home kid.

Xeo · Oct 7, 2004, 04:04 PM

Firstly, I'm of the opinion that any thread with "Michael Moore" in the topic should immediately be placed in the Political Lounge. Clearly there is no way to discuss him or anything related to him, without it becoming political.

Secondly, I don't understand why anyone would have to pay Moore such an obscene amount of money to speak in the first place. I mean, he seems to want to do stuff like this anyway right? Why is he making more than most make in an entire year to speak on one night? I guess America just pays a lot to its entertainers.

And PacHead, as long as the first amendment is unchallenged, speaking up is not treasonous, even at a time of war. How exactly is it enemy propaganda? Even if it was, it wouldn't be illegal. But I'm really curious how.

hayesk · Oct 7, 2004, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Evan_11:
The man is a hypocrite. He profits from the same greed that he protests.

Michael Moore protests making movies that people voluntarily pay to see?

Secret__Police · Oct 7, 2004, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by brapper:
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D85IAHA80.html

How dare he!

He should be tried for treason, convicted and shot like the LIbEral dog that he is!!!!!!

Evan_11 · Oct 7, 2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by hayesk:
Michael Moore protests making movies that people voluntarily pay to see?

I'm sure if you gave him a chance he would start ranting about Schwarzenegger films and the irresponsibility he has in making them.

Did you really need a compendium for Fahrenheit 9/11? Well it's there released on the same day as the DVD of the movie. Mikey is milking Joe Liberal. Now this isn't any different from say Anne Coulter or Rush Limbaugh but at least they understand Capitalism and don't pretend to wage a war against it. Of course with Moore you never know. He's openingly endorsed Capitalism on several occassions in favor of small business.

Another thing. I don't have a problem with pacifists however Michael Moore is no pacifist.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2004, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:

Secondly, I don't understand why anyone would have to pay Moore such an obscene amount of money to speak in the first place. I mean, he seems to want to do stuff like this anyway right? Why is he making more than most make in an entire year to speak on one night? I guess America just pays a lot to its entertainers.

So you're saying J-lo deserved 20 mil for Gili?

Not to mention all the other overpaid actors in the US.