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Oct 13, 2004, 03:42 PM
 
i know i do! After seeing what they did to e-mail (g-mail) i can only imagine what a messenger type service from google would be like. Hopefully they will recognize us mac users.

A a/v pc to mac (and vice-versa) would be great !!!

maybe they can even make it just for g-mail users to start out with (BETA?)

should i send my idea/question into google and see if there is any change in the future?
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 03:54 PM
 
You want them doing "market research" on your chats?
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 04:00 PM
 
I can understand their venture into newsgroups (http://groups.google.com/), news (http://news.google.com/), shopping (http://froogle.google.com/), and e-mail (http://gmail.google.com/).

All those are areas where Google's search engine can improve the experience. Gmail is great for keeping version control e-mail logs, support mailing lists, etc. I can easily search for what I want, and there's plenty of space for archival.

I don't see what google can bring to IM. The last thing we need is yet another IM protocol, and even if they use XMPP for the protocol I don't know what Google can do better with the client that other's can't. A/V chat isn't exactly Google's niche, nor is it exactly applicable to searching technologies.

EDIT: linked to xmpp.org
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Oct 13, 2004, 04:01 PM
 
I dunno. I think Yahoo Messenger is pretty great as it is, on Windows anyway. Not sure what Google could do better, and anyway I'd rather not have to use another IM app!
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 04:16 PM
 
AIM needs to be open sourced, or at least licensed out. Have like little pockets of AIM servers, requiring a domain name and junk. IE I would be salty#clayshaker.com or something. Do it exactly like e-mail only not spoofable, yes there would be some spam, but ultimately people would just learn to block those servers.
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 04:19 PM
 
Originally posted by Superchicken:
AIM needs to be open sourced, or at least licensed out. Have like little pockets of AIM servers, requiring a domain name and junk. IE I would be salty#clayshaker.com or something. Do it exactly like e-mail only not spoofable, yes there would be some spam, but ultimately people would just learn to block those servers.
Um.. you mean like Jabber has now?
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Oct 13, 2004, 05:01 PM
 
Except jabber has more clients for more operating systems and is free and is more featureful? nice
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 05:07 PM
 
Google Messenger would be cool to go with GMail. Like MSN Messenger and Hotmail.

But better.
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 05:33 PM
 
Google is great at search.

I would rather see Google use resources staying great at search-related stuff instead of trying to become everything to everybody. Trying to be everything to everyone makes core products suffer (i.e. Microsoft).
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 07:01 PM
 
Google would likely shake things up by doing something radical, like making an IM client that supported all networks, which worked seamlessly. Now that would be useful. It's what Apple should do with iChat (if only that had MSN support!)
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 07:14 PM
 
I dun't.
     
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Oct 13, 2004, 07:46 PM
 
I would ... just for pissing off M$.
A lot of ppl. I know have migrated from hotmail to gmail. Always a good thing.
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Oct 13, 2004, 07:58 PM
 
Originally posted by ringo:
I would rather see Google use resources staying great at search-related stuff instead of trying to become everything to everybody. Trying to be everything to everyone makes core products suffer (i.e. Microsoft).


like I said before - all of Google's major services are somehow related to the search engine. That's what they do and they do it well. If google can't improve the IM experience by leveraging their search engine, then they probably shouldn't divert their attention from their core technology.

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Oct 13, 2004, 08:25 PM
 
That is a problem of just using one OS.

Google already has an IM client. It's called "Hello" which Google bought when it bought Picasa. Still rough around the edges but a very nice client. PC only though.
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Oct 13, 2004, 09:09 PM
 
Originally posted by willed:
It's what Apple should do with iChat (if only that had MSN support!)
iChat in Tiger will support Jabber.

Jabber can interface with MSN, using gateways. I've tried it, and it works.

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Oct 13, 2004, 10:11 PM
 
The last thing we need is yet another chat standard. Let's see, we've got:

-AIM
-MSN
-ICQ
-Yahoo
-Jabber

and a couple more.

I think we need less standards, not more.

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