[spatterson]

Do you guys know the english word for European rollos? Rollos are those garage door like things that are installed on the outside of a window. When you bring the rollo down it removes all light from the room. They are usually aluminum. Thanks for your help its for a office kiosk I am building for a director project.

[ntsc]

roll shutters or roller shutters or roller blinds (sometimes).

i think based on your desc

[spatterson]

Originally posted by ntsc:
roll shutters or roller shutters or roller blinds (sometimes).

i think based on your desc

Sounds right... I am building storyboards right now for the project. I am getting ready to present them so i want an accurate word for roll shutters. I was only able to remember the word "rollo" from living in Germany for a few years.

THANKS!

[d4nth3m4n]

YEAH! those things are AWESOME! i slept so well in germany when i lived there. i have no idea what they're called.

question- do you think they are a carry over from germany being flattened in WW2? they do black out pretty well... anyone?

[spatterson]

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
YEAH! those things are AWESOME! i slept so well in germany when i lived there. i have no idea what they're called.

question- do you think they are a carry over from germany being flattened in WW2? they do black out pretty well... anyone?

I was curious to the same thing when I lived over there. They are AWESOME!

[nredman]

rollos....like the candy?

[AKcrab]

Roller blinds. You see a LOT of em in Alaska, as people want to make the light go away while trying to sleep in the summers.

[tooki]

No, those are not at all the same thing.

Your pic is of roll-up blinds. (Blinds are inside the house.)

Rollos are roll-up shutters. (Shutters are outside the house.)

They are basically metal (the ones I had in Switzerland were steel) sheets that come down and seal up the window. In the U.S., the closest I've seen are the nearly-solid roll-down barriers that businesses in crime-ridden areas use when closed.

tooki

[phantomdragonz]

oh, those things ROCK! when i was in Italy over the summer i got to use them, and they are absolutely awesome....

I had a hotel in florence for 3 nights, right on a very busy street. I did not realize this until I opened the window and all the sound rushed in, there were these amazing windows that blocked out so much sound it was amazing, when the busses passed right under the window you could faintly hear their air breaks... but that was it...


also the air conditioners! they are all mounted on a wall with separate cooling (radiators?) that you mounted on the roof... damn us americans for being such hicks!

Zach

[spatterson]

Originally posted by phantomdragonz:
damn us americans for being such hicks!

Zach

LOL... True... I miss living in Europe, but there is something about home (Good old USA) that keeps me coming back.

[phantomdragonz]

boy was I glad to be able to go into a resturant and understand what the menu was... and it all made sense... here a glass of wine is USUALLY more expensive then a measly glass of water... damn italians and their water monopoly!

Zach

[AKcrab]

Originally posted by tooki:
Rollos are roll-up shutters. (Shutters are outside the house.)

Ahhh, correct you are. I didn't notice the fact that he was talking about something *outside* the house. Thanks.

Are rollos electric or manual?

[TETENAL]

What language is "rollos"? In Germany such a thing is called Rollladen.

[badidea]

Originally posted by TETENAL:
... In Germany such a thing is called Rollladen.

...or just "Rollo"! Don't you use that word in Hessen?

They are usually plastic or aluminium, electric or manual and sometimes remote controlled...

[TETENAL]

Originally posted by badidea:
...or just "Rollo"!

"Rollo" is colloquial short for Rollladen, but it's not a proper word. The original poster didn't say what language he means with "rollos" so I thought it would be interesting to know what other language uses this as proper word.

[effgee]

Originally posted by badidea:
...or just "Rollo"! Don't you use that word in Hessen? They are usually plastic or aluminium, electric or manual and sometimes remote controlled...

Or made of wood - the really expensive ones (electric ones hooked up to a timer are the bomb!). Here in Germany, you also find wooden roll shutters in relatively old buildings - used to have a very nice apartment in a building from the early 1920's. They didn't look like they were "tacked on" after the building was completed - so I don't think they're purely a WW2 thing. Don't know that for a fact, though.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by badidea:
...or just "Rollo"! Don't you use that word in Hessen?

They are usually plastic or aluminium, electric or manual and sometimes remote controlled...

"Rollos" are blinds - usually cloth fabric of some kind - mounted on the INSIDE of windows.

"Rollläden" (3 "L"s according to reformed spelling) are not "Rollos".


Apparently, they've been in use since the mid-19th century, becoming more common as windows grew larger and made shutters less practical.
http://www.bv-rolladen.de/Branche/hi...tebranchen.htm

I absolutely despise them, for a number of reasons.

[badidea]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
"Rollos" are blinds - usually cloth fabric of some kind - mounted on the INSIDE of windows.

"Rollläden" (3 "L"s according to reformed spelling) are not "Rollos".

You know what? I don't care!!!
Back in the time when I was still living with my parents we had "Rolläden" (2 "L"s because the reform didn't exist back then) and we always called them "Rollos"!

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by badidea:
You know what? I don't care!!!

Well, you're posting in the wrong ****ing thread, then, aren't you?

Originally posted by badidea:
Back in the time when I was still living with my parents we had "Rolläden" (2 "L"s because the reform didn't exist back then) and we always called them "Rollos"!

My cousin used to call her rubber boots "Guffigimmel".

[turtle777]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:

"Rollläden" (3 "L"s according to reformed spelling) are not "Rollos".

Actually, we used to call them Rollos all the time.
We were just too lazy to say Rollläden, I guess.
To my knowledge, both is correct and used.

-t

[turtle777]

Originally posted by nredman:
rollos....like the candy?

No, but those are good, too.



-t

[spatterson]

Originally posted by turtle777:
Actually, we used to call them Rollos all the time.
We were just too lazy to say Rollläden, I guess.
To my knowledge, both is correct and used.

-t

I actually never knew the actual term, my ex just called them "rollos". I don't know why america didn't incorporate the idea into more of our houses. Especially since we are a 24hr society.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by spatterson:
I actually never knew the actual term, my ex just called them "rollos". I don't know why america didn't incorporate the idea into more of our houses. Especially since we are a 24hr society.

Economic reasons.
Good rollos would cost more than the rest of the house !

-t

[milhous]

Originally posted by turtle777:
No, but those are good, too.



-t

so true and i'm glad you linked that. was just about to do the same, but you beat me to it! good job.

these are absolutely delicious. chewy caramels with milk chocolate usually sold in rolls at your favorite store. and if memory serves me correctly, they are originally of swiss origin.

more info about rolos!

http://www.hersheys.com/products/details/rolo.asp

[Nai no Kami]

Originally posted by turtle777:
Economic reasons.
Good rollos would cost more than the rest of the house !

-t

Not that true. I live in Argentina (not one of the most prosperous countries in the world) and every window here has a set of those. Here they are called "persinanas" (a plural to the singular "persiana"). There are electrical ones but most of them are manual. Most are made of wood, some others are made of plastic (which are lighter and more efficient in blacking out) and very little of aluminium or other materials. BTW, my home's persiana needs repair since it got stuck.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by Nai no Kami:
Not that true.

*lol*

1) Duh !
2) You haven't seen those cheapo houses here in the US.

-t

[d4nth3m4n]

along with rollos (rollläden, rolläden, rolllaeden, rollaeden ) i want those windows that my folks could never figure out when the visited- the ones that open out like a door or tilt in depending on the position of the handle.

it was REALLY funny to watch the trouble this window was giving my dad in their hotel

[turtle777]

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
along with rollos (rollladen, rolladen) i want those windows that my folks could never figure out when the visited- the ones that open out like a door or tilt in depending on the position of the handle.

*sigh*

You are spot on. German windows rule.

I HATE American windows, those that just slide up and down.
Bad insulation, can't clean the outside, ugly...

-t

[spatterson]

Originally posted by turtle777:
*sigh*

You are spot on. German windows rule.

I HATE American windows, those that just slide up and down.
Bad insulation, can't clean the outside, ugly...

-t

My air conditioning bill is so high becasue of bad insulation not only in my walls but in my windows.

On a good note I saw some european widows in Portland. You know when you can take the handle and turn it 90deg and your are able to open the window at a angle? I was impressed that they acutally incorporated them into the highrise.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by spatterson:
On a good note I saw some european widows in Portland. You know when you can take the handle and turn it 90deg and your are able to open the window at a angle? I was impressed that they acutally incorporated them into the highrise.

You can get them here, but they are expensive.

http://www.furniturefromgermany.com/...n_windows.html
(pls excuse the web design, I know, it's horrible, as abd as German windows are good )

With the raise of electricity and gas bills, I think good insulating windows will be more popular here in the future as well.

-t

[effgee]

Typo of the day™ by spatterson:
On a good note I saw some european widows in Portland. You know when you can take the handle and turn it ...

Never seen any european widows with a handle that would open at an angle ...

• My wife's brother came over from the US to see us here in Germany a few weeks ago - on the first morning after his arrival, while having coffee in the living room, he gets and up walks over to the balcony door to take a closer peek at the neighborhood.
  
  (... since it was his first visit to Europe he, of course, hadn't encountered "tilt'n turn" windows before ...)
  
  And before my wife could warn him, he leans forward to take a real close look out the balcony door and smacks his head against the glass door so hard that, one floor above, I woke up.
  
  Needless to say, the balcony door was tilted in and he hadn't noticed. A handful of Aspirin cured his headache and the glass is triple-layer and quite thick - no permanent damage done. Amazingly enough he was still impressed by the window technology ...

[d4nth3m4n]

Originally posted by effgee:
Never seen any european widows with a handle that would open at an angle ...

• My wife's brother came over from the US to see us here in Germany a few weeks ago - on the first morning after his arrival, while having coffee in the living room, he gets and up walks over to the balcony door to take a closer peek at the neighborhood.
  
  (... since it was his first visit to Europe he, of course, hadn't encountered "tilt'n turn" windows before ...)
  
  And before my wife could warn him, he leans forward to take a real close look out the balcony door and smacks his head against the glass door so hard that, one floor above, I woke up.
  
  Needless to say, the balcony door was tilted in and he hadn't noticed. A handful of Aspirin cured his headache and the glass is triple-layer and quite thick - no permanent damage done. Amazingly enough he was still impressed by the window technology ...

almost exactly what my dad did.

[angelmb]

rollo / rollos is a spaniard word, but we call them 'persiana' / 'persianas', the nicest persianas I have ever saw are the ones the F1 Team McLaren Mercedes has on their race trucks.

[DeathMan]

Like the first day I moved to germany, I kipped a window back, it scared me half to death. I thought the 7 foot very heavy window was going to fall out of the pane, and crash onto me slashing me to ribbons. Never seen a window work like that before.

[spatterson]

Originally posted by DeathMan:
Like the first day I moved to germany, I kipped a window back, it scared me half to death. I thought the 7 foot very heavy window was going to fall out of the pane, and crash onto me slashing me to ribbons. Never seen a window work like that before.

I love how they work... its great during fall when its kida cold outside. also its great for security because the window is still secure.

[olePigeon]

Some funny history, by the way: that little arched windows above a door is called a "Vasisdas."

You can guess where the name came from. When the Germans invaded France, they would ask "Was ist das?" and point to the little windows. The French thought it was the German word for it. Carried over to America.

[Amorya]

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
along with rollos (rollläden, rolläden, rolllaeden, rollaeden ) i want those windows that my folks could never figure out when the visited- the ones that open out like a door or tilt in depending on the position of the handle.

it was REALLY funny to watch the trouble this window was giving my dad in their hotel

I had those in my dorm room last year. They were useful for entering the building if you were too lazy to go round to the entrance... but you could also just open them a little bit so that no-one could break in when you were out.

Amorya

[effgee]

Originally posted by spatterson:
I love how they work... its great during fall when its kida cold outside. also its great for security because the window is still secure.

A very common and very dangerous misconception.

About a year and a half ago (in a previous apt. on the ground floor) while I was at work and my wife at home, a junkie broke into our living room, getting ready to pack up our Loewe TV, DVD player, Playstation, parts of the home theater system plus about 50% of our DVD's (the pr*ck actually had the audacity to make neat little piles, separating the DVD's he liked from the ones he wasn't planning on taking.) He accidentally dropped the DVD player and my wife, having heard the noise, walked into the hallway where she saw the bastard coming out of the living room.

Thank god she reacted in the best way possible by opening the apartment door and getting out of the sick fsck's way - he then walked out of the apartment and took off. Even though he didn't steal a thing, I'm sure you can imagine my wife's utter shock, seeing that bastard walking down our hallway.

Afterwards we went to a "crime prevention center" the German police runs in most larger cities to get some advice about how to secure our windows when they're tilted - aftermarket locks will do the trick.

The cop working there actually showed us how the junkie opened our window - all it took was a large screwdriver and about 5 seconds - it didn't even make a lot of noise.

So, no - unless you have special security windows or aftermarket locks (they run about $100 per window) that secure the window even while it's cracked open - your windows are not secure at all. You literally could pry them open with a stick.

Aside from my wife being scared to death, the story ended reasonably well - the a$$hole was arrested and is still doing time in jail today (for breaking into our and a whole bunch of other houses)

[turtle777]

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Some funny history, by the way: that little arched windows above a door is called a "Vasisdas."

You can guess where the name came from. When the Germans invaded France, they would ask "Was ist das?" and point to the little windows. The French thought it was the German word for it. Carried over to America.

I have never heard of that, and google doesn't know it either.
Urban myth !?!?

-t

[Mediaman_12]

In ENGLAND (as you asked for the ENGLISH) these would be called Roller Shutters (must only be a UK term, most of the sites brought up by a Google search are UK sites). Nobody would have a clue what you are taking about if you used any of the other words suggested here (I didn't know what you meant until I got down to the good description and the diagram). They are mostly used on commercial buildings, although you do see some homes where the owners are 'security paranoid' with them on (these homes usually have big gates tall fences and CCTV cameras on too)

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by turtle777:


I have never heard of that, and google doesn't know it either.

That's because you need to be looking for the correct spelling:

"Vasistas" (with a "t") in French and, I believe, Italian.

[TETENAL]

Must be an urban myth. The French don't like taking over foreign words. Particularly not when being occupied by Germans.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by TETENAL:
Must be an urban myth. The French don't like taking over foreign words. Particularly not when being occupied by Germans.

Not officially.

But considering that this stems from the Napoleonic wars, when the French were OCCUPYING, rather than occupied by, the Germans, there might be a truth to it.

I learned the word and its etymology in high school, at least. www.vasistas.net [German] correlates the story. Perhaps one should look it up in a French or Italian dictionary? (I can't.)