[CD Hanks]

The head of the Chechen government, Sergei Abramov, said on Friday that the volatile republic would soon get a whole range of recreational facilities, including a Disneyland.

The official made the statement at a press conference conducted in the main office of the Interfax news agency.

“Next year we will launch a multi-functional sport complex with a stadium for the Terek soccer team and also a Disneyland and a water park,” the official said. “The corresponding projects have already passed the expertise and will be launched as soon as next year,” Abramov said.

The capital city of the Chechen Republic, Grozny, has suffered untold damage in the wars that have taken place in Chechnya since the early 90s. The Russian government has allocated 5.8 billion rubles ($200 million) for the reconstruction of Chechnya in the 2005 budget.

This is completely insane.

[Peter]

who the heck cares about Chechnya? I dont.

[effgee]

Originally posted by Peter:
who the heck cares about Chechnya? I dont.

Tip of the day™: Have another helping of "spotted dick" and read another thread.



Do I recall that correctly - Abramov is some (more or less) retarded string puppet of Putin who was recently installed, er ... elected in some (more or less) bogus election which made any OECD observer's toenails curl?

[hardcat1970]

are you serious?

[rambo47]

Those friggin' Chechens get all the cool stuff, damn them!

[An Alias]

Yeah, that'll really lift the spirits of the Chechens after the Russians utterly destroyed their country.

[TETENAL]

Originally posted by An Alias:
Yeah, that'll really lift the spirits of the Chechens after the Russians utterly destroyed their country.

It is part of Russia, not "their country". It's the separatists that ruined it.

[effgee]

Originally posted by TETENAL:
It is part of Russia, not "their country". It's the separatists that ruined it.

Out of curiosity and not meant sarcastically ... please explain why the Chechnyans have a lesser claim to independence than, let's say the Latvians, Belorussians or the Ukranians?

This is not to say that I condone the course of action some Chechnyan "rebels" (= "braindead fanatics") are choosing to pursue - fighting for your freedom is one thing, purposely targeting innocent people and school kids an entirely different one.

[ambush]

......speechless.

[An Alias]

Originally posted by TETENAL:
It is part of Russia, not "their country". It's the separatists that ruined it.

Rubbish. What? You mean like India is really still British?
The Chechens were invaded by the Russians over a hundred years ago. They were subjected to the usual Russian/Communist crap that other satelite states went through. They then saw other states break free from Russia, so they wanted the same thing. Funnily enough, Russia seems to be against letting the Muslim states break free, but don't mind the others to. The Chechens have put up with countless attrocities, genocide, etc.

Also, under the UN charter, they have the right to decide their future, btw. Pity they don't get a chance to.

[lil'babykitten]

Why pour money in to the re-construction of destroyed homes when you could use it to build a Disneyland?

[An Alias]

Originally posted by effgee:
Out of curiosity and not meant sarcastically ... please explain why the Chechnyans have a lesser claim to independence than, let's say the Latvians, Belorussians or the Ukranians?

This is not to say that I condone the course of action some Chechnyan "rebels" (= "braindead fanatics") are choosing to pursue - fighting for your freedom is one thing, purposely targeting innocent people and school kids an entirely different one.

the thing is, even if Chechnya was really an integral part of Russia, like England is to the UK. Does that mean they should put up with genocide of their people? If Russia treats their 'citizens' like that, then hell yeah they should get independance. Let's not forget that Russian brutality of the Chechens began long before any major revolt, and the initial uprising (insurgents) was nothing compared to what Russia did to their country, The fcukers flattened Grozny in the 90s, killing EVERYTHING in their path. If I was a Chechen I'd be looking at any way to kill those bastards.

[effgee]

Ok, someone please enlighten the ignorant Kraut (that would be me): Who lives in "Chechnya"? "Chechens", "Chechnyans"? I kinda like "Chechnyanians"

[effgee]

Originally posted by An Alias:
the thing is, even if Chechmya was really an integral part of Russia, like England is to the UK. Does that mean they should put up with genocide of their people? If Russia treats their 'citizens' like that, then hell yeah they should get independance. Let's not forget that Russian brutality of the Chechens began long before any major revolt, and the initial uprising (insurgents) was nothing compared to what Russia did to their country, The fcukers flattened Grozny in the 90s, killing EVERYTHING in their path. If I was a Chechen I'd be looking at any way to kill those bastards.

AnAlias,

t'was more of a rhetorical question for TETENAL - I wanted to see what his line of reasoning is.

Assuming there is/was one

[An Alias]

Originally posted by effgee:
AnAlias,

t'was more of a rhetorical question for TETENAL - I wanted to see what his line of reasoning is.

Assuming there is/was one

Yeah, I thought so, but I had my head full of things I wanted to say, and thought it best to reply to yours, lol. But... my reply wasn't aimed at your post, your post was cool

[An Alias]

Originally posted by effgee:
Ok, someone please enlighten the ignorant Kraut (that would be me): Who lives in "Chechnya"? "Chechens", "Chechnyans"? I kinda like "Chechnyanians"

lol, that would be the Chechens. I remember when the push for self-determination happened in the 90s, the media around the world couldn't seem to come to a consensus on how to pronounce the country. It was, 'Chechenya', 'Chechenia', etc. Thankfully they managed to find out who these people were, and how to say their names.

[An Alias]

Here's a short history of the country/region, nabbed it from some site.

"Recognized as a distinct people since the 17th cent., the Chechens were the most active opponents of Russia's conquest (1818–1917) of the Caucasus. They fought bitterly during an unsuccessful 1850s rebellion led by Imam Shamyl. The Bolsheviks seized the region in 1918 but were dislodged in 1919 by counterrevolutionary forces under Gen. A. I. Denikin.

After Soviet rule was reestablished, the area was included in 1921 in the Mountain People's Republic. The Chechen Autonomous Region was created in 1922, and in 1934 it became part of the Chechen-Ingush Region, made a republic in 1936. After Chechen and Ingush units collaborated with the invading Germans during World War II, many residents were deported (1944) to Central Asia. Deportees were repatriated in 1956, and the republic was reestablished in 1957.

In 1991, as the Soviet Union disintegrated, the Chechen-dominated parliament of the republic declared independence as the Republic of Ichkeria, soon better known as Chechnya. In June, 1992, Russia granted Ingush inhabitants their own republic (Ingushetia) in the western fifth of the territory.

Tensions between the Russian government and that of Chechen president Dzhokhar Dudayev escalated into warfare in late 1994, as Russian troops arrived to crush the separatist movement. Grozny was devastated in the fighting, and tens of thousands died. Russian forces regained control of many areas in 1995, but separatist guerrillas controlled much of the mountainous south and committed spectacular terrorist actions in other parts of Russia. Fighting continued through 1996, when Dudayev was killed and succeeded by Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev. The Russians withdrew, essentially admitting defeat, following a cease-fire that left Chechnya with de facto autonomy.

Aslan Maskhadov, chief of staff of the Chechen forces, was elected president early in 1997 but appeared to have little control over the republic. In 1999, Islamic law was established. Terrorism, including a series of bombings in Moscow, erupted again, and after Islamic militants invaded neighboring Dagestan from Chechnya, Russian forces bombed and invaded Chechnya, capturing Grozny and forcing the rebels into mountain strongholds. The rebels have continued to mount guerrilla attacks on Russian forces, as well as terror attacks in Moscow and other Russian cities outside Chechnya. Both sides have been accused of brutality and terrorizing noncombatants. In Mar., 2003, voters approved a new constitution for Chechnya, and in October Akhmad Kadyrov was elected president, but the election was generally regarded as neither free nor fair. Both the constitution and the president were backed by Russian government. Kadyrov was assassinated in May, 2004. Prime Minister Sergei Abramov became interim president, and an election was scheduled for August."

[i_rooster]

Russia is poor. Chechenya area is rich in resources that will help it get back in black. Expect war and reconstruction. Welcome to reality and the way of the world, yet again!

[An Alias]

Originally posted by i_rooster:
Russia is poor. Chechenya area is rich in resources that will help it get back in black. Expect war and reconstruction. Welcome to reality and the way of the world, yet again!

Yup. Pretty shocking once you actually read what goes on.

[TETENAL]

Chechnya is officially part of Russia, so Russia has every right to militarily intervene against a secession just like the USA had in the south. While true that that the Russian military did their very best to escalate the situation I blame the separatists' terrorist tactics for ultimately ruining Chechnya.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Why pour money in to the re-construction of destroyed homes when you could use it to build a Disneyland?

Who said they weren't doing that also?

[Lancer409]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:


This is completely insane.

fantastic pic .. lol ...

of all the places ... OMG

[webcookie]

Not really building a Disneyland in Chechnya. HOWEVER, one is currently under construction in Hong Kong.