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Top 10 Supercomputers: Two are G5 based.
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Oct 25, 2004, 10:07 PM
 
5th place
Spanish supercluster (IBM BladeCenter JS20)
2520 G5s
2.195 GHz each
14.55 Tflops/s

7th place
VT System X (Xserve)
2200 G5s
2.3 GHz each
12.25 Tflops/s

Also:

1st place: IBM PowerPC 440 based
8th place: IBM PowerPC 440 based
9th place: IBM POWER4+ based
     
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Oct 25, 2004, 10:18 PM
 
Hmm, looks like VT got bumped down a bit. Didn't they used to be third place or something?

Time for VT to get their asses in gear...

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Oct 25, 2004, 10:20 PM
 
Originally posted by CharlesS:
Hmm, looks like VT got bumped down a bit. Didn't they used to be third place or something?
Yeah, despite a nearly 20% boost in speed (2.0->2.3 GHz G5, and a slight increase in efficiency), they dropped down several places. Lots of new supercomputers came online recently.
     
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Oct 25, 2004, 10:28 PM
 
What about Colsa's MACH5?
     
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Oct 25, 2004, 10:32 PM
 
Where is Earth-Simulator and BlueGene?
     
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Oct 25, 2004, 10:44 PM
 
Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Yeah, despite a nearly 20% boost in speed (2.0->2.3 GHz G5, and a slight increase in efficiency), they dropped down several places. Lots of new supercomputers came online recently.
More importantly, they're in the top ten after spending only $5 million. That's a huge accomplishment because it puts real super-computing at the hands of non-private universities and colleges.
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Oct 25, 2004, 10:47 PM
 
Where's this info coming from? I thought the next list was not due out until November some time?
     
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
What about Colsa's MACH5?
I don't see it.

Originally posted by the_glassman:
Where is Earth-Simulator and BlueGene?
Earth Simulator is #2. There are two different versions of BlueGene, and they are #1 and #8. Check out page 54 of this PDF.

Originally posted by olePigeon:
More importantly, they're in the top ten after spending only $5 million. That's a huge accomplishment because it puts real super-computing at the hands of non-private universities and colleges.
Well, plus a delay of a year, and another $600000, on top of the initial $5.2 million (not counting building costs, etc.).

Originally posted by Brass:
Where's this info coming from? I thought the next list was not due out until November some time?
See above. Note that the list could still change in the next couple of weeks. For example, the IBM JS20 G5 system only appeared on the latest interim list.
     
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What's a PowerPC 440?

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Originally posted by Eriamjh:
What's a PowerPC 440?
you do know how to use google right?

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Oct 26, 2004, 08:21 AM
 
Update. IBM is now up to 3564 2.2 GHz G5 processors, at 20530 Gflops/s (65.5% efficiency). That puts them in 3rd place.

EDIT:

1) 36010 - BlueGene/L DD2 - 16384 0.7 GHz PowerPC 440
2) 35860 - Earth Simulator - 5120 NEC processors
3) 20530 - IBM eServer BladeCenter JS20 - 3564 2.2 GHz PowerPC 970 G5
4) 19940 - QsNetII Intel Tiger4 - 4096 Itanium 2 1.4 GHz
5) 19564 - NASA Project Columbia SGI Altix 3000 - 4032 Itanium 2 1.5 GHz
6) 13880 - ASCI Q AlphaServe EV-68 - 8160 Alpha 1.25 GHz
7) 12250 - Virginia Tech Apple Xserve - 2200 2.3 GHz PowerPC 970 G5
8) 11680 - BlueGene/L DD1 - 8192 0.5 GHz PowerPC 440
9) 10310 - IBM eServer pSeries 655 - 2880 1.7 GHz POWER4+
10) 9819 - Dell PowerEdge 1750 - 2500 3.06 GHz Xeon
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Oct 26, 2004, 10:29 AM
 
Interesting:

Cray: 11,000 Opterons = 40 Teraflops
Apple: 1,150 G5s = 12 Teraflops

Originally posted by Eug:
Update. IBM is now up to 3564 2.2 GHz G5 processors, at 20530 Gflops/s (65.5% efficiency). That puts them in 3rd place.

EDIT:

1) 36010 - BlueGene/L DD2 - 16384 0.7 GHz PowerPC 440
2) 35860 - Earth Simulator - 5120 NEC processors
3) 20530 - IBM eServer BladeCenter JS20 - 3564 2.2 GHz PowerPC 970 G5
4) 19940 - QsNetII Intel Tiger4 - 4096 Itanium 2 1.4 GHz
5) 19564 - NASA Project Columbia SGI Altix 3000 - 4032 Itanium 2 1.5 GHz
6) 13880 - ASCI Q AlphaServe EV-68 - 8160 Alpha 1.25 GHz
7) 12250 - Virginia Tech Apple Xserve - 2200 2.3 GHz PowerPC 970 G5
8) 11680 - BlueGene/L DD1 - 8192 0.5 GHz PowerPC 440
9) 10310 - IBM eServer pSeries 655 - 2880 1.7 GHz POWER4+
10) 9819 - Dell PowerEdge 1750 - 2500 3.06 GHz Xeon
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Oct 26, 2004, 10:32 AM
 
Originally posted by Eriamjh:
What's a PowerPC 440?
It's a CPU designed specifically for scaling and multiprocessing. I think the Cell processor is based off of it (or is the processor), which is going to be used in the Playstation 3 and Playstation Computer. It has a lot of nifty built in stuff such as the ability to detect other PPC 440s on a node and dynamically scale performance.

It's a super nifty CPU.
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Originally posted by olePigeon:
It's a super nifty CPU.
that it is.
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SGI/Intel/NASA move into first place

42 Tflops/s sustained, with over 10000 Itanium 2 CPUs, in SGI Altix 3000 machines.

     
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Oct 26, 2004, 03:42 PM
 
Originally posted by Eug:
SGI/Intel/NASA move into first place

42 Tflops/s sustained, with over 10000 Itanium 2 CPUs, in SGI Altix 3000 machines.

oh, I must have seen this topic before posting this one, sorry.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=233267


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Oct 26, 2004, 05:35 PM
 
Probably cost a little more than $5.8 million.

Originally posted by Eug:
SGI/Intel/NASA move into first place

42 Tflops/s sustained, with over 10000 Itanium 2 CPUs, in SGI Altix 3000 machines.
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Originally posted by olePigeon:
Interesting:

Cray: 11,000 Opterons = 40 Teraflops
Apple: 1,150 G5s = 12 Teraflops
Isn't that 2200 G5s?
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Oct 26, 2004, 10:08 PM
 
Originally posted by Scotttheking:
Isn't that 2200 G5s?
Actually, 1150 dual G5s, 2300 G5s. Howver, it seems 100 of those CPUs were not used. So, in the end, you are right it's 2200 G5s.

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Oct 27, 2004, 12:23 AM
 
Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Actually, 1150 dual G5s, 2300 G5s. Howver, it seems 100 of those CPUs were not used. So, in the end, you are right it's 2200 G5s.
I just figured that the Opteron would do a little better.
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Oct 27, 2004, 06:36 AM
 
Originally posted by olePigeon:
Probably cost a little more than $5.8 million.
Yes, but by all accounts it's an excellent machine, at several times the power of the VT machine.

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Oct 27, 2004, 03:19 PM
 
Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Yes, but by all accounts it's an excellent machine, at several times the power of the VT machine.
3.5 times faster at 20x the cost. Sounds like NASA all right.
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