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iPod Photo and U2 iPod is out!!
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:11 PM
 
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:18 PM
 
Wow semi-decent battery life. It's big and heavy tough. (the iPod Photo that is)
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:19 PM
 
iPod photo seems pretty useless to me.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:21 PM
 
U2 iPod is....well....

New Hotness!

No mini update on anthing?
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:25 PM
 
I don't really get the ipod photo. And I really don't get iTunes updating photos on your ipod. Probably have to see it in real life.

The $150 U2 box set sounds interesting though. I only have 2 of their albums (give you 2 guesses which ones)
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:29 PM
 
I just ordered one of each! Woo hoo. Damn you apple, rendering my 3G and 4G useless. The ipod photo is awesome and has numerous possibilities, not to mention the 60 GB hard drive. I wonder how hard it's going to be to get video to play off of it? Rip a DVD to ipod, play it on your TV!
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:31 PM
 
Originally posted by the_glassman:
I wonder how hard it's going to be to get video to play off of it? Rip a DVD to ipod, play it on your TV!
What about impossible?
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:32 PM
 
Originally posted by the_glassman:
I just ordered one of each!
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:37 PM
 
Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
What about impossible?
So you can run Linux on an iPod. but getting it to play video is impossible?
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:37 PM
 
I don't carry photos in my wallet to show people so I'm not sure what I'd do with iPod Photo but I feel the need to have it nonetheless.

It's interesting that Apple calls the U2 iPod "iPod Special Edition U2" - I guess it opens it up for Apple to created multicolored iPods with other bands in mind.

Also of note is the U2 iPod comes with the dock so for $50 more you're getting a cool colored iPod and a $39 dock. I guess the $50 credit towards their massive album is worth it if you were gonna buy the songs already.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:37 PM
 
For the price, it should have a CF adapter or slot so it can pull your photos directly off your memory cards when you are out.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:37 PM
 
25,000 photos...

Wow, thats a lot of porn!
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:37 PM
 
Hmm. Gotta say, it seems pretty useless. And terribly expensive. Couldn't you just put your photos on your regular iPod and just not look at them on-the-go? Meh.

U2 iPod looks cool—the colors, not the whole "U2 Special Edition" and signature thing.

I'd still get a regular iPod if I had the money for one.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:46 PM
 
I seriously doubt the ipod's current cpu is designed for, or has the power to decode mpeg 2 on the fly. You can run linux on a freaking atari, that doesn't mean you can play dvds on one, much less rip them.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:46 PM
 
Hmmm I would get one if it were not for the back!

     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:47 PM
 
Originally posted by Nicko:
Hmmm I would get one if it were not for the back!


Thats funny, cause I would get one if not for the front.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:47 PM
 
Can someone post a link to the area within the Apple online store where I can purchase a 60GB photo capable iPod with the U2 styling?

Heh. Oh well... can't have your cake and eat it I suppose...
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:50 PM
 
Originally posted by Nicko:
Hmmm I would get one if it were not for the back!
Haha, it looks like it comes "pre-scratched" now...

     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:52 PM
 
Originally posted by MindFad:
Hmm. Gotta say, it seems pretty useless. And terribly expensive. Couldn't you just put your photos on your regular iPod and just not look at them on-the-go? Meh.

U2 iPod looks cool—the colors, not the whole "U2 Special Edition" and signature thing.

I'd still get a regular iPod if I had the money for one.
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:52 PM
 
the Photo iPod would have been useful if it allowed you to plug in your camera and download pictures to the iPod without needed that Belkin adapter.

The U2 iPod is ugly.

I am going to get the next rev of iPod mini to replace my Gen3 iPod.

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Oct 26, 2004, 01:53 PM
 
Originally posted by MindFad:
Hmm.Couldn't you just put your photos on your regular iPod and just not look at them on-the-go?
Probably like you could put your mp3's on a regular hard drive and just not listen to them on-the-go

The difference between iPod and iPod Photo (40 gig) is $100. For $100 more you're getting a color screen, better battery life, carrying case, and a AV cable (probably worth about $30).

The other huge difference between the 2 is the composite AV out on the iPod Photo which I would argue probably sounds better going thru a stereo system (who says you have to plug in the AV cables into a TV - just plug the jacks into your home stereo if you're not using the dock) than headphone->RCA jacks.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:53 PM
 
Happy Xmas honey...

here's your new U2 iPod.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:54 PM
 
Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
25,000 photos...

Wow, thats a lot of porn!
I'm holding out for the "Jenna Jameson - special edition" Photo iPod, preloaded with porn!
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:54 PM
 
Uh.....

Love U2. Not diggin' the iPod.

I'd rather wait and see what the Gen5 iPod has.

EDIT: WHOA - I missed the Photo iPod. Ordering!

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Oct 26, 2004, 01:54 PM
 
Ummm...i dont like the idea of iPod Photo....its really annoying that Apple chose to complicate the iPod in such a way. It was pretty much purely for music, with the other extra features(contacts, calenders,notes,games) just being a bonus to the package. I dont like the idea of a device like this.....it compicates the product line and leaves behind the ideals on which the device was actually designed in the first place.

If anything they should have come out with an iCamera.... a hard disc based camera thats Apple branded.take photos, carry around thousands of photosh in ur pocket, use firewire to sync in iPhoto and play them on TVs through the camera.

Also what the hell ? syncing photos in iTunes ? i'm sorry.....Apple is loosing it here.....way to complicate your software and hardware. They seem to be getting carried away by all the attention the iPod is getting imo.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:54 PM
 
i think flat black would look better,

meah wish they had 60 gig non photo.

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Oct 26, 2004, 01:55 PM
 
Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
25,000 photos...

Wow, thats a lot of porn!


looks cool..no money though...

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Oct 26, 2004, 01:55 PM
 
I don't see much of a real use for iPhotoPod, but you can bet that they'll sell them as quickly as they can make them this Christmas.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 01:58 PM
 
Originally posted by willed:
I don't see much of a real use for iPhotoPod, but you can bet that they'll sell them as quickly as they can make them this Christmas.
agreed...they will both sell very well...good job steve

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Oct 26, 2004, 02:02 PM
 
Originally posted by Hawkeye_a:
Ummm...i dont like the idea of iPod Photo....its really annoying that Apple chose to complicate the iPod in such a way. It was pretty much purely for music, with the other extra features(contacts, calenders,notes,games) just being a bonus to the package. I dont like the idea of a device like this.....it compicates the product line and leaves behind the ideals on which the device was actually designed in the first place.

If anything they should have come out with an iCamera.... a hard disc based camera thats Apple branded.take photos, carry around thousands of photosh in ur pocket, use firewire to sync in iPhoto and play them on TVs through the camera.

Also what the hell ? syncing photos in iTunes ? i'm sorry.....Apple is loosing it here.....way to complicate your software and hardware. They seem to be getting carried away by all the attention the iPod is getting imo.
Well luckily Apple have kept the iPod a purely-for-music machine, IF you want it that way - they're not forcing you to have a photo version! The reason for syncing photos through iTunes is that Steve doesn't want to make iPhoto available for Windows. It's not exactly that much of a compromise - on the plus side it means that when you plug in and sync PhotoPod you'll only have one app launch and sync rather than two. They'll sell loads of these. If you don't want one, don't get one, but if there's a market for them there's no reason Apple shouldn't make one. Primarily I guess the reason is to keep up with the competition who are all starting to offer colour screens. The HD based iCamera is a good idea though.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:07 PM
 
APU PREDICTION:

When the market is actually ready for a portable media player in 5 years or so

(when all the technology and copyright issues have been settled)

The Apple Ipod Photo™® will be the industry leader.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:07 PM
 
Color screen! Maybe it's time to upgrade my 5GB. Notice the interface uses Tiger's glossy menubar?

I would also love a hard disk based video camera made by Apple that could capture HD resolution footage with 24FPS support and sync perfectly with any NLE. It would bring filmmaking to the masses at a great price.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:12 PM
 
Why am I having this weird feeling of deja vu? To when the original iPod launched.

"I don't like it."

"Who needs it?"

"It'll never work."

"Apple will go bankrupt."

Etc. etc, ad infinitum.

People who want the larger drive and the image capability will buy it. People who don't, won't. It's a free country.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:15 PM
 
The U2 iPod is ugly. Bad road to have gone down I think.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:18 PM
 
It looks like they also revamped the online store. There is still the regular store (with a different layout) and now they have an iPod store. Looks pretty cool.

The thing that confuses me about these new products is that there is no update to the iPod mini and no flash based iPod?

Also, if Apple releases the flash based iPod, that makes for a total of 5 seperate iPods. I thought the point was to simplify everything. I know these will sell a ton, but I hope they don't make it too intimidating for new users.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:21 PM
 
Originally posted by DeathMan:
I only have 2 of their albums (give you 2 guesses which ones)
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Originally posted by Hawkeye_a:
Ummm...i dont like the idea of iPod Photo....its really annoying that Apple chose to complicate the iPod in such a way. It was pretty much purely for music, with the other extra features(contacts, calenders,notes,games) just being a bonus to the package. I dont like the idea of a device like this.....it compicates the product line and leaves behind the ideals on which the device was actually designed in the first place.

If anything they should have come out with an iCamera.... a hard disc based camera thats Apple branded.take photos, carry around thousands of photosh in ur pocket, use firewire to sync in iPhoto and play them on TVs through the camera.

Also what the hell ? syncing photos in iTunes ? i'm sorry.....Apple is loosing it here.....way to complicate your software and hardware. They seem to be getting carried away by all the attention the iPod is getting imo.
I agree with this 100%. It's a shame that Apple can't add the one thing that would make it the perfect music device - high quality audio recording. Instead, they're adding features of questionable utility (no port to connect a digital camera to it and download digital photos to it, thus allowing you to free up space on the camera? That is the only thing a photo iPod would have been good for) that have nothing to do with music, thus bloating the iPod. Sure, the 60 GB and longer battery life are nice, but the extra volume and weight are not, and the color screen is just not necessary...

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Oct 26, 2004, 02:32 PM
 
Originally posted by brandon420506:
It looks like they also revamped the online store. There is still the regular store (with a different layout) and now they have an iPod store. Looks pretty cool.

The thing that confuses me about these new products is that there is no update to the iPod mini and no flash based iPod?

Also, if Apple releases the flash based iPod, that makes for a total of 5 seperate iPods. I thought the point was to simplify everything. I know these will sell a ton, but I hope they don't make it too intimidating for new users.
I think that a separate iPod store isn't that good an idea - it means that people won't see Macs, probably won't even realise Apple makes computers! As to no upgrade of the miniPod - why bother upgrading it when it's still selling like hotcakes? And after all Steve has said in criticism of flash-based players, I'd still be surprised to see them sell a Flash-based iPod.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:33 PM
 
Originally posted by Mastrap:
Why am I having this weird feeling of deja vu? To when the original iPod launched.

"I don't like it."

"Who needs it?"

"It'll never work."

"Apple will go bankrupt."

Etc. etc, ad infinitum.

People who want the larger drive and the image capability will buy it. People who don't, won't. It's a free country.
I was going to post something similar.

I shoulda been a cat. I am too attracted to new shiny objects, and the iPod Photo is the shiniest one around now. Unfortunately, I have no cash, and if I did, I'd be buying Logic or Guitar Rig.

Maybe my wife will buy one and I can "borrow" it.
     
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
People who want the larger drive and the image capability will buy it. People who don't, won't. It's a free country.
Yes it is and we are entitled to say if we like it or not.


moving on..... anyone know if the event will be online later? I would like to see if steve demo'd how ipod photo works.
     
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Wow, the iPod Calendar and Solitaire look much better in color...



     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:40 PM
 
Originally posted by willed:
I think that a separate iPod store isn't that good an idea - it means that people won't see Macs, probably won't even realise Apple makes computers! As to no upgrade of the miniPod - why bother upgrading it when it's still selling like hotcakes? And after all Steve has said in criticism of flash-based players, I'd still be surprised to see them sell a Flash-based iPod.
It's just the iPod section labelled "The iPod Store" now. You still go to "store.apple.com" or "www.apple.com/store" to get to it. It won't completely bypass the Macintosh.
     
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Originally posted by Person Man:
It's just the iPod section labelled "The iPod Store" now. You still go to "store.apple.com" or "www.apple.com/store" to get to it. It won't completely bypass the Macintosh.
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:44 PM
 
the downside of the new 40 and 60 gb ipod photo is 0.72" thick. It is almost the same as the 20GB first generation ipod.
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:46 PM
 
Well, I guess that Apple charm got to me. It's not so bad, I suppose. The color display is cool, but I can't see myself ever using the photo ability very much. They're just so damned expensive compared to the others. After all this talk of porn, it could work pretty well after all. Apple, how I doubted thee.
     
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
Why am I having this weird feeling of deja vu? To when the original iPod launched.

"I don't like it."

"Who needs it?"

"It'll never work."

"Apple will go bankrupt."

Etc. etc, ad infinitum.

People who want the larger drive and the image capability will buy it. People who don't, won't. It's a free country.
Wow, people here are like a freaking broken record. Any time someone criticizes a new Apple product, we're reminded of the original iPod

I thought the original iPod was going to be a smash and I ordered it the day it was announced. An iPod Photo is theoretically a good idea, but I don't like their execution. Lumping photo syncing into iTunes and only using the iPod for viewing photos is pretty lame IMO. If it came with a better way (than the Belkin thing) to transfer photos directly onto the iPod from a digital camera THEN I'd personally be more interested. I think it will still sell, but it's just not the implementation that I was personally hoping to see.

I was hoping for an iPod Mini upgrade, since I'd like to get my fiance one for xmas. Was also hoping for an Airport Express remote control, but I knew that wasn't realistic...
     
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Oct 26, 2004, 02:51 PM
 
Originally posted by CharlesS:
I agree with this 100%. It's a shame that Apple can't add the one thing that would make it the perfect music device - high quality audio recording. Instead, they're adding features of questionable utility (no port to connect a digital camera to it and download digital photos to it, thus allowing you to free up space on the camera? That is the only thing a photo iPod would have been good for) that have nothing to do with music, thus bloating the iPod. Sure, the 60 GB and longer battery life are nice, but the extra volume and weight are not, and the color screen is just not necessary...
1. There already exists an accessory to download digital photos to the iPod. The Belkin Media Reader does just that and has been available for quite some time.

2. So I suppose adding an additional port as you have suggested doesn't constitute "bloat"?

The iPod has a simple design. It's primary focus has been music but I have never been under the impression that music was the only thing it would do. Even the name doesn't in and of itself signify music. The iPod does music, calendars, contacts, notes, games, etc. Now it does photos. Even if one doesn't use it for photos the color screen would still be nice for displaying the album art on the music alone. What I like about this product's development is that as it evolves and adds more capabilities, the ease of use does NOT diminish whatsoever. Everything that makes and iPod an iPod still exists. It's still just as intuitive and simple to use as ever. It just now has a few more bells and whistles that one can choose to utilize or not.

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Oct 26, 2004, 02:55 PM
 
{quote}For the price, it should have a CF adapter or slot so it can pull your photos directly off your memory cards when you are out.[/quote]

if it had that I would buy, I am not going to spend ANOTHER $100 on top of this price for an adaptor (just my opinion)

this is one step removed from adding video

prediction

next version the iPod photo will be standard, with a iPod video coming in a few months after that release


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Oct 26, 2004, 03:01 PM
 
so iTunes is not showing up in the software update...?

any one else experiencing this?
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Excuse me? REMOTE CONTROL!!!?????

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