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zmcnulty writes "The day has finally come: Over at TechJapan, we've got a translation of a Japanese BB Watch article stating that Sony has announced the Playstation Portable will cost 20,790 yen (about $195 USD) and is to be released on December 12th. Also, the battery life is quoted as being 4 to 6 hours. Not exactly what I'd call fantastic, but at this price, looks like Nintendo is in for some serious competition. Free your doubts about software too, as Sony has announced 21 titles will be released in December as well. Here's the official Japanese PDF press release regarding the PSP's release."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/1230219
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Wow. At $200 bucks the thing is going to sell like hotcakes. I was really expecting a $300 price point.
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I don't know if this is an Official press release but ya, at $200 it is great.
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Meh, same old thing. The DS is gonna wipe the floor with it.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Meh, same old thing. The DS is gonna wipe the floor with it.
The DS rox but i'm interested to see the second screen in action.
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I'm still not sold on the DS. I think using the stylus to play games is going to make it a bit of a pain and take away from the whole experience. I can whip out my Gameboy and play anywhere. I willl have to devote a lot more attention and effort when playing games with a stylus. Also, so far, none of the announced games have me excited enough to buy the system. Some of them seeem interesting... just not interesting enough to buy a whole new system for.
I'm going to wait and see how both systems pan out after a year or so. Either that, or wait until one of them has a killer ap I feel I need to play right away.
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So far people that have used a DS said it is awkward to hold and clunky. The little baby screens with one being used as an "innovative" map also doesn't do it for me.
But I can draw a picture on it!
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I have a DS on order. We'll see how good it is.
I sooooooooooooooo want the PSP. I think that what'll happen is the same thing with the PS2/Xbox war: the DS will do well for a while, then the PSP is eventually going to wipe the floor with it.
Bigger screen
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Seriously - if the most going for the DS is the 2 screens, it has problems.
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Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
But I can draw a picture on it!
i wonder if Nintendo has heard of paper and a pencil
Bigger screen
Better audio
Analog control
Video out
Wireless built in
these things definitely do it for me also.
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Originally posted by starman:
Seriously - if the most going for the DS is the 2 screens, it has problems.
Mike
Everyone here is lying to themselves if they think they DS would have come out of the PSP was never announced. It is purely a way for Nintendo to distract people into thinking it is the next gameboy and better then a PSP.
Remember how many developers LOVED to make use of the "second information screen" when you hooked up your gameboy up to your gamecube. Only Nintendo did it and its implementation and use SUCKED in Zelda and Metroid.
I am going to buy a DS though, just so I can wait till christmas and sell it to Mindfads mom through ebay for a good profit.
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Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
So far people that have used a DS said it is awkward to hold and clunky. The little baby screens with one being used as an "innovative" map also doesn't do it for me.
But I can draw a picture on it!
Awkward to hold and clunky? The PSP does nothing new its just a small PS2 with a few useless features.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Awkward to hold and clunky? The PSP does nothing new its just a small PS2 with a few useless features.
Again:
Bigger screen
Better audio
Analog control
Video out
Wireless built in
And who WOULDN'T want a "small PS2"?
By today's standards, the PS2 is ancient, but as far as handhelds go, it's gonna be top of the line.
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Originally posted by starman:
I have a DS on order. We'll see how good it is.
I sooooooooooooooo want the PSP. I think that what'll happen is the same thing with the PS2/Xbox war: the DS will do well for a while, then the PSP is eventually going to wipe the floor with it.
Bigger screen
Better audio
Analog control
Video out
Wireless built in
Seriously - if the most going for the DS is the 2 screens, it has problems.
Mike
Dual screens
Better Audio
Pressure sensitive control
Wireless built-in
Multiplayer with only one game cartridge
Voice recognition
Touch screen
Wireless chat
Twice the battery life
Really, what gaming advances does the PSP bring to the table? Nada. Its a portable PS2 and as we all know you can't take a console and turn it into a portable.
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I hear that the 6 hours of battery life is with the screen brightness only halfway on, no headphones and no active wireless networking.
That means most people will probably get more like 2-3 hours of real world use? That sucks.
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If these are the specs, then I give the PSP two years before it dies. A big initial rush of purchases, followed by being consigned to people's closets. I suppose this is unavoidable; no one but Nintendo has ever understood the portable game market.
Mistake Number 1: Horrible, horrible battery life. They claim 4-6 hours, and we all know how marketing inflates claims. Sega's Game Gear claimed that much battery life, and I consistently sucked a set of batteries dry in only 2.5 hours with that thing. It's not portable if you're chained to a wire most of the time.
Mistake Number 2: Size. The large screen has been touted as an advantage, but the fact is it's too large, to the point where the system itself is huge. Nintendo's portables have only gotten smaller up through the GBASP era, because you can carry them in a shirt pocket if you have to. The PSP will require either a backpack or a custom "carry bag". Custom carry bags have always been popular as a means of storage, but it's quite rare that you actually seem them used to carry the thing. Exactly why this is, I leave as an exercise for the reader.
Mistake Number 3: The analog stick. Analog control is a good idea for a portable. Analog sticks, however, are not. It sticks out too far from the rest of the device, further hurting portability. A cycloid thumb pad, similar to the old NES Max controller, would have been a better idea here.
And none of this even accounts for the lineup of games. Among the front runners are Mortal Kombat and Tekken, games from a genre (arena-style fighting) that has never fared well on portables, because the genre inherently lends itself poorly to portable play. Then there's MGS, which apparently will not be using the sneak-em-up formula which makes it so famous (good, as this genre doesn't lend itself too well to portable play either), but will instead be some kind of mascot-based card game. And then, of course, there are the sports games, another genre which doesn't work well. Sony thinks it's doing the smart thing by going for genres which are underrepresented or unrepresented on the GBA. What it doesn't understand is that these genres are that way for a reason: they were tried, and they failed.
When someone other than Nintendo realizes that a portable system isn't just a smaller console, then we'll see a real challenger to Nintendo's dominance. However, that time has not yet come.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Its a portable PS2 and as we all know you can't take a console and turn it into a portable.
We do? How do we know that?
I want a PSP just for the fact that you can watch movies on it.
And yes, so far people who have used a DS said it was clunky and uncomfortable to use. Because each screen is at a different angle one will have a glair on it most of the time.
The PSP is nice and flat has a great screen and lots of potential.
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I want to get a PSP. Not particularly interested in the DS -- it seems like the only reason the DS exists is because Nintendo had to respond to the PSP somehow. That already relegates Nintendo to a catch-up role. It's funny that people are breaking out the 'Sony doesn't understand portable gaming' argument already. People said similar things before the original PlayStation's release, and we all know what happened. I'd give Sony some credit, they understand what gamers want.
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Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
We do? How do we know that?
I want a PSP just for the fact that you can watch movies on it.
And yes, so far people who have used a DS said it was clunky and uncomfortable to use. Because each screen is at a different angle one will have a glair on it most of the time.
The PSP is nice and flat has a great screen and lots of potential.
I'm willing to bet that the battery will die before the movie is over.
I believe you can open it fully so that isn't an issue. Plus glare is an issue with ANY screen on any device.
Its unoriginal. Just wait till that screen gets all scratched up because its not protected.
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Originally posted by itai195:
It's funny that people are breaking out the 'Sony doesn't understand portable gaming' argument already. People said similar things before the original PlayStation's release, and we all know what happened. I'd give Sony some credit, they understand what gamers want.
Same goes for Xbox and in many ways I like it better then my gameCube.
Microsoft did a great job with it (other then the large hardware but I don't really care) and gives people what they want like online play rather then telling people what they want.
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Originally posted by itai195:
I want to get a PSP. Not particularly interested in the DS -- it seems like the only reason the DS exists is because Nintendo had to respond to the PSP somehow. That already relegates Nintendo to a catch-up role. It's funny that people are breaking out the 'Sony doesn't understand portable gaming' argument already. People said similar things before the original PlayStation's release, and we all know what happened. I'd give Sony some credit, they understand what gamers want.
What did you think? That Nintendo would just sit back and relax like Sony has been doing for years? Sony doesn't understand portable gaming. Thats why they're releasing a portable entertainment system. It doesn't bring anything new to the table at all.
Nintendo has actually made moves to extend portable gaming. Sony has done squat.
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Please tell me how you think Sony doesn't understand portable gaming. Every review of the PSP has one word - HOT. Yeah, there will be glare on every screen (duh) but with the DS you have to deal with it TWICE. At least with a single screen you just have to move your hands. Now you have to adjust for the bottom one, and then tilt the first one. I don't know how I'm going to like that.
Sony's bringing the following to the table:
Movies
Analog control
Wireless gaming
Large screen
And some things I can't remember off the top of my head.
But ooh, I can play Animal Crossing on my DS!
Ok, /tagteam SWG.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
What did you think? That Nintendo would just sit back and relax like Sony has been doing for years? Sony doesn't understand portable gaming. Thats why they're releasing a portable entertainment system. It doesn't bring anything new to the table at all.
I didn't expect Nintendo to ignore the threat, but they clearly seem to think Sony is more of a threat than some of you do. I expected more out of Nintendo than the DS, which IMO doesn't bring much of anything new to portable gaming. It seems like a design concept that, out of necessity, was rushed to market. Personally, I'm also a little ticked that they finally released a usable GBA just a year and a half ago and are already releasing a new portable. Sony is bringing a new approach, just as they did with console gaming. In fact I think there is a pretty clear parallel there because portable gaming (in the US at least) is still pretty much for kids, just as console gaming was in 95.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
I'm willing to bet that the battery will die before the movie is over.
I believe you can open it fully so that isn't an issue. Plus glare is an issue with ANY screen on any device.
Its unoriginal. Just wait till that screen gets all scratched up because its not protected.
How much you want to bet? Sony said 4-5 hours of video.
Yes glare is an issue but you can just tilt it slightly and have bye bye. On the DS you cure it on one and create the problem on the other.
Sony said the screen will have a special coating and you can buy cases, shows how much you have looked into things.
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Originally posted by Millennium:
Millennium's prediction on why PSP will fail
also, i don't believe portable gaming systems are that "cool" anymore
i see a gameboy advanced twice a year and that was supposed to be the new hotness™
iPod is the new bling device (probably iPod Photo will be the future new hotness™)
Sony and Nintendo duking it out for sales to grade school kids is a farce.
there is a market but kids don't have that much money, their parents do
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The best part was when Nintendo first intro'd the DS it said two things.
1) It wouldn't be called the DS
2) The second screen would not just be used for a map but something inovative.
What happened.
1) It is still called the DS
2) Mario N64 and metroid just use the second screen for a map. The number of times I was playing those small mario levels begging for a tiny map make this a godsend
Also the whole drawing and touchscreen just screams "little girl diary" and Mario Paint.
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I'm actually going to see if my local store(s) have a demo unit before launch day. If I think the thing sucks, I'm taking back my preorder. I wanted to secure it in case the thing does turn out to be great, but the more I read about it, and the lack of launch titles is making the thing less and less appealing.
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Originally posted by starman:
I'm actually going to see if my local store(s) have a demo unit before launch day. If I think the thing sucks, I'm taking back my preorder. I wanted to secure it in case the thing does turn out to be great, but the more I read about it, and the lack of launch titles is making the thing less and less appealing.
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No sell it on ebay to a fanboy for twice the cost.
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Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
No sell it on ebay to a fanboy for twice the cost.
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Nintendo keeps claiming that the DS is not the new Gameboy and I think it's a terrible move. Nintendo should have canned the DS and focused on making the new Gameboy. They are going to split their own market whenever they decide to update the actual gameboy.
With a bazzillion Gameboys in the marketplace and a small number of DS systems, most 3rd party companies are going to want to just keep making Gameboy games because anyone can play them. If they make a DS game, it's incompatale with 75% of the market.
I just have a hard time believng that this thing is going to take off. If it does, then they are stuck with it for a while. If it doesn't, then they are just going to piss off their fan base even more.
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Originally posted by starman:
Please tell me how you think Sony doesn't understand portable gaming. Every review of the PSP has one word - HOT. Yeah, there will be glare on every screen (duh) but with the DS you have to deal with it TWICE. At least with a single screen you just have to move your hands. Now you have to adjust for the bottom one, and then tilt the first one. I don't know how I'm going to like that.
Sony's bringing the following to the table:
Movies
Analog control
Wireless gaming
Large screen
And some things I can't remember off the top of my head.
But ooh, I can play Animal Crossing on my DS!
Ok, /tagteam SWG.
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Movies have nothing to do with gaming.
Very awkward. Pressure sensitive control pad was a much better idea.
Haven't heard if both players have to have the game. Not exactly new anyway.
Because bigger must be better.
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Originally posted by itai195:
I didn't expect Nintendo to ignore the threat, but they clearly seem to think Sony is more of a threat than some of you do. I expected more out of Nintendo than the DS, which IMO doesn't bring much of anything new to portable gaming. It seems like a design concept that, out of necessity, was rushed to market. Personally, I'm also a little ticked that they finally released a usable GBA just a year and a half ago and are already releasing a new portable. Sony is bringing a new approach, just as they did with console gaming. In fact I think there is a pretty clear parallel there because portable gaming (in the US at least) is still pretty much for kids, just as console gaming was in 95.
Nothing new? I already mentioned all the new things they're bringing. Scroll up and read.
I new approach? They took the PS2 and made a portable out of it. Thats not original thats safe and unoriginal.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Movies have nothing to do with gaming.
Very awkward. Pressure sensitive control pad was a much better idea.
1) why is being able to watch movies a bad idea?
2) What is the coolest way you can think of to use a tiny touch screen in a game? What is the coolest use for the second screen. When you figure it out call Nintendo and tell them as they don't even have the answer.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Movies have nothing to do with gaming.
Very awkward. Pressure sensitive control pad was a much better idea.
Haven't heard if both players have to have the game. Not exactly new anyway.
Because bigger must be better.
You don't have kids. Seriously. Ever try to keep kids quiet in the car? I'd love to throw a PSP at them and tell them to watch Spongebob.
And no, movies have nothing to do with games DIRECTLY, but if you have the capability in the hardware, why not use it? This is one thing that I think hurt the Gamecube. Why have the need to take 2 items on a plane or in a car? Given the choice between a unit that plays movies and a PSP that does games AND movies, and they're both the same price, which do you think people will buy?
The pressure sensitive idea isn't that great. I'll bet there will be DS's with gouges in their screens.
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Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
1) why is being able to watch movies a bad idea?
2) What is the coolest way you can think of to use a tiny touch screen in a game? What is the coolest use for the second screen. When you figure it out call Nintendo and tell them as they don't even have the answer.
1) No one really wants to pay $200 to watch movies on a tiny screen. Well, maybe porn.
2) You didn't see the other demo of the second screen? Shame. I believe its up to developers to innovate in games not Nintendo's.
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Originally posted by starman:
Bigger screen
Better audio
Analog control
Video out
Wireless built in
Well, here's a little perspective from someone who has seen it a bit different for awhile:
The DS is supposed to have some good audio capabilities. Also has wireless. And analog comes from the stylus, and it look it's coming to be much more easier and precise to use than that little nubbin on the PSP (just those Metroid Prime Hunters presentation videos; very cool). I watched some videos of the PSP in action with that FPS that's coming out, and it looked quite lame, but maybe that's because it was only a demo.
Not to parrot what anyone at Nintendo has said, but I think Reggie was right about the PSP having the same old games, just on the go, with sub-par PS2-esque graphics (based on that game I saw, and most of the others). It doesn't do it for me honestly. Not to say I won't try the PSP and possibly get one (after I get to play with one in the store, or a friend's), but as of now, I'm completely unimpressed and uninterested in playing the same old PS2 games on a a big handheld screen for 4-6 hours with a little nubbin. I don't think graphics are going to sell either of this systems. But if that's what matters to people, then the PSP is for them.
That's not to say the DS launch has some of the same 'ol with Mario, but it's cool that they've added a bunch of mini games and new content, along with multiplayer. But I'm more excited about whatever developers pull out of their magic bags for the DS. As someone said during a demonstration, it's neat how you never really get pulled out of an action of a game by pausing. Everything can just be there.
I'm just enthusiastic for the freshness of the DS. And the price is just right, the features are great, and apparently developers are really excited about it with all that software that's been announced, and after seeing current software in action. I may just get both, though, who knows, but I'm still not sold on the PSP—and I certainly am on the DS. But as of now, I see a big screen with the same old software and shittier framerates and graphics on a wide, handheld screen and something completely new and fresh.
My prediction for this little handheld war before the next Game Boy emerges in a year or two: PSP and DS both will start off well, and then the PSP will crap out in sales sometime next year. If the software's good, I'll keep buying for the DS, and maybe even get a PSP. Unless Sony pulls a Nintendo and releases an updated PSP "SP" with better battery life, maybe people will give in and buy it again or for the first time.
$195 ain't so bad, considering the big-ass screen. Hopefully that 4-6 hours is a mistake, too. GameGear SP, anyone?
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Originally posted by starman:
You don't have kids. Seriously. Ever try to keep kids quiet in the car? I'd love to throw a PSP at them and tell them to watch Spongebob.
And no, movies have nothing to do with games DIRECTLY, but if you have the capability in the hardware, why not use it? This is one thing that I think hurt the Gamecube. Why have the need to take 2 items on a plane or in a car? Given the choice between a unit that plays movies and a PSP that does games AND movies, and they're both the same price, which do you think people will buy?
The pressure sensitive idea isn't that great. I'll bet there will be DS's with gouges in their screens.
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Who are you to say I don't have kids? Family vehicles have had video players as an option for ages and now more and more have them as standard equipment..
I don't know. Maybe because it kills battery life? People won't want to use a multimedia device in one capacity per-charge. This will hurt sony badly because it'll get a reputation of horrid battery life. Same price? The PSP is $50 more.
Touch screen are very durable these days, not that I see what that has to do with the directional pad. The touch screen has resulted in the first good FPS on a portable, better than even console ones.
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there are going to be a million copies of PSP because people are going to have to buy another one because you know its going to break in a month or two.
i think "Feel the Magic: XX/XY" is the best example for what you can do with the second screen.
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I love all the people claiming that Sony doesn't know the portable gaming market. These are the same freaking people that predicted that Sony would flop in console gaming, because they didn't know the market and because they were new to the game. While I personally hate Sony with a passion, Nintendo better come up with something better then a gimmicky dual screen game boy. (not gameboy)
I see Nintendo going the way of Sega and eventually only making software only. Which truthfully is very sad. Sega used to be a great innovator in the industry but is now just another 3rd rate developer. 
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
I love all the people claiming that Sony doesn't know the portable gaming market. These are the same freaking people that predicted that Sony would flop in console gaming, because they didn't know the market and because they were new to the game. While I personally hate Sony with a passion, Nintendo better come up with something better then a gimmicky dual screen game boy. (not gameboy)
I see Nintendo going the way of Sega and eventually only making software only. Which truthfully is very sad. Sega used to be a great innovator in the industry but is now just another 3rd rate developer.
I think you underestimate nintendo. Remembering Sony is doing what Sega did.
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What's the obsession with cramming video capability into everything nowadays? There's cellphones that can play video and from what I've seen, most of you guys who are praising the PS2 BASHED companies who made MP3 players that play video..
what about PDAs?
Why not leave the video playing to something more suited for the task? I still can't figure this one out 
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Originally posted by Link:
What's the obsession with cramming video capability into everything nowadays? There's cellphones that can play video and from what I've seen, most of you guys who are praising the PS2 BASHED companies who made MP3 players that play video..
what about PDAs?
Why not leave the video playing to something more suited for the task? I still can't figure this one out
I could personally care less if it played video, but I would rather play GT4 over yet another Mario game that I played 10 years ago.
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
I love all the people claiming that Sony doesn't know the portable gaming market. These are the same freaking people that predicted that Sony would flop in console gaming, because they didn't know the market and because they were new to the game. While I personally hate Sony with a passion, Nintendo better come up with something better than a gimmicky dual screen game boy. (not gameboy)
It's all going to come down to software, of course.
And how is the PSP any less of a gimmick, if not moreso? And the DS isn't a Game Boy, just to be clear.  Again, it'll all come down to games. Sony will probably pull out the "big guns" by getting Rockstar to release a PSP version of GTA. I give it a year.
I see Nintendo going the way of Sega and eventually only making software only. Which truthfully is very sad. Sega used to be a great innovator in the industry but is now just another 3rd rate developer.
Why would they do that, when they're more profitable now than Sega ever was? You make it sound as if Nintendo is somehow doing bad in the market today because you don't like the DS. I doubt Nintendo will ever go software-only, personally. Handheld only? Maybe, but I doubt it. I imagine they've got another two or three home console generations in them, depending on how well the next goes with Revolution.
Sega still makes some good games. Fireside would agree (cough, feel the magic, cough). 
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
I couldn't personally care less if it played video, but I would rather play GT4 over yet another Mario game that I played 10 years ago.
Oh, come on, like new games aren't being developed. You could wait until later next year when the new Mario is released for DS maybe? And they've added enough to Mario 64 DS where it'll definitely be the game I get with my DS.
Personally, I can't wait for RPGs and fighters (Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, etc.) to start showing up on DS for some wireless battles.  And MP Hunters, of course. And GoldenEye (I think EA is working on one for DS).
(Sorry for giving you **** about "than" and "couldn't."  It is my MacNN duty.)
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
I could personally care less if it played video, but I would rather play GT4 over yet another Mario game that I played 10 years ago.
Don't you mean YET ANOTHER GranTurismo game exactly like the one released 6 years ago?
It's one thing to make 4 sequels of something. It's another to make 4 sequels of something that SUCKS. (In this case, GT). Nuff said?
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Originally posted by MindFad:
It's all going to come down to software, of course.
And how is the PSP any less of a gimmick, if not moreso? And the DS isn't a Game Boy, just to be clear. Again, it'll all come down to games. Sony will probably pull out the "big guns" by getting Rockstar to release a PSP version of GTA. I give it a year. 
Like you said it all comes down to the games. And honestly at this point I don't see anyone beating Sony's 3rd and 1st party support. Like it or not, Sony is where it's at in gaming industry. Just from name recognition and the fanboys it will sell.
Originally posted by MindFad:
Why would they do that, when they're more profitable now than Sega ever was? You make it sound as if Nintendo is somehow doing bad in the market today because you don't like the DS. I doubt Nintendo will ever go software-only, personally. Handheld only? Maybe, but I doubt it. I imagine they've got another two or three home console generations in them, depending on how well the next goes with Revolution.
Sega still makes some good games. Fireside would agree (cough, feel the magic, cough).
They are profitable now, that doesn't mean that if the DS tanks and they have yet another flop with a home system that they will remain profitable.
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
Like you said it all comes down to the games. And honestly at this point I don't see anyone beating Sony's 3rd and 1st party support. Like it or not, Sony is where it's at in gaming industry. Just from name recognition and the fanboys it will sell.
They are profitable now, that doesn't mean that if the DS tanks and they have yet another flop with a home system that they will remain profitable.
The last time sony made an "all in one" it was called the PSX and flopped faster than a pancake.
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Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
1) No one really wants to pay $200 to watch movies on a tiny screen.
I do. The screen is NOT tiny and widescreen which makes it a perfect portable DVD player. I would not take my laptop on some trips as I don't want to haul it around just to watch a movie on the plane but I will take a PSP.
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Originally posted by the_glassman:
I love all the people claiming that Sony doesn't know the portable gaming market. These are the same freaking people that predicted that Sony would flop in console gaming, because they didn't know the market and because they were new to the game.
Indeed, they didn't know the market, and they were new to the game. I can sum up the reason for Sony's takeover of the market for you in three words: Final Fantasy VII. Which was, to be fair, one of the greatest video games ever made. But the point is, Sony didn't win the market for the PSX; Square did.
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So tell me, what's this emphasis that it HAS to play movies suddenly because you're going to take it on a plane?! OMG PLANES ARE FOR MOVIES!!!!!
*bangs head against table* SO ALL THIS TIME I WAS WRONG?!?!?! I thought planes were meant to get from point A to point B, and if you're gonna do something well.. geee.. why not play a game, it'll make time pass faster than watching reruns of that corny ass movie you bought for $30 from the MPAA.
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