[Sarc]

Nice little article on BitTorrent. Aparently the RIAA's and MPAA's heads are turning to the new defacto P2P Network.

According to British Web analysis firm CacheLogic, BitTorrent accounts for an astounding 35 percent of all the traffic on the Internet -- more than all other peer-to-peer programs combined -- and dwarfs mainstream traffic like Web pages.

*LINK*

[scaught]

bit torrent doesnt exist?


[i guess we cant use that line anymore, huh.]

[Superchicken]

I thought that was spam?

[ambush]

IT'S A DAILY JIHAD AGAINST CAPITALISTS PIGS

[MilkmanDan]

Note to self. Download more.

[fireside]

its cause bittorrent rocks.


the article says download tv shows is illegal, is that true if you pay for cable?

[TheBadgerHunter]

We really need a new more secure protocol. BitTorrent makes it far too easy to obtain the IPs of everyone downloading a file.

[ambush]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
We really need a new more secure protocol. BitTorrent makes it far too easy to obtain the IPs of everyone downloading a file.

Indeed.

Secure file sharing... a capitalist's nightmare.

[the_glassman]

I hope all you pirates rot in hell!

[the_glassman]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
We really need a new more secure protocol. BitTorrent makes it far too easy to obtain the IPs of everyone downloading a file.

There's always Freenet and my personal favorite MUTE.

[demograph68]

Originally posted by ambush:
Indeed.

Secure file sharing... a capitalist's nightmare.

It's capitalism that provides us the poor consumer crap entertainment that our culture insists on stealing from. Err.... something like that?

[demograph68]

Originally posted by the_glassman:
I hope all you pirates rot in hell!

Hey! The Incredibles for free! *click* JK

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
We really need a new more secure protocol. BitTorrent makes it far too easy to obtain the IPs of everyone downloading a file.

It isn't secure because it was never really intended to be a delivery method for illegal file sharing. Hell, even the author the program/protocol has stated that. More than likely this is for legal reasons, but he still has a valid point.

[the_glassman]

Originally posted by demograph68:
Hey! The Incredibles for free! *click* JK

I know somebody is going to stone me for this, but to me this is a real grey area. At this moment it's not illegal to download in Canada. Ok, so it's okay to do so there, but not here? What if you already purchased said properties prior?
Example, I purchased a Milli Vanilli tape years ago that was stolen. So would it be illegal for me to download the same Milli Vanilli? What if I recorded it off the radio, satellite TV/Radio or the internet?
If I paid to see Milli Vanilli in concert years ago, does that give me the right or would it still be illegal?

I paid to see finding Nemo in the theaters, if I download the movie is that still illegal? What if I also purchased the DVD, still illegal?

People like to compare to going into a retail store and ripping something off, but you're not taking any physical property that cost something to manufacture. Many say it's still stealing.
What if I'm already paying Time Warner $50.00 a month for my internet service?

I think they should just make the whole internet thing illegal, ever since Al Gore invented it the whole worlds gone down the tubes anyway.

[the_glassman]

[ibookuser2]

Here's another hypothetical question: The Universal et al v. Sony case established that it's legal to "time-shift" television programming: recording something to watch it later. If one were to miss a TV program, forget to pop in a tape or not have a VCR, and go download it via a P2P network for the purposes of viewing once and then deleting, is that illegal?

[the_glassman]

Originally posted by ibookuser2:
Here's another hypothetical question: The Universal et al v. Sony case established that it's legal to "time-shift" television programming: recording something to watch it later. If one were to miss a TV program, forget to pop in a tape or not have a VCR, and go download it via a P2P network for the purposes of viewing once and then deleting, is that illegal?

As far as I'm concerned it's all illegal. I'm going sue Sony for creating the Betamax® and getting everyone into this mess!

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
It isn't secure because it was never really intended to be a delivery method for illegal file sharing. Hell, even the author the program/protocol has stated that. More than likely this is for legal reasons, but he still has a valid point.

Yeah, which is why it should be safe as a service since it has a very strong legitimate user base.

[His Dudeness]

Originally posted by fireside:
its cause bittorrent rocks.


the article says download tv shows is illegal, is that true if you pay for cable?

How can downloading tv shows be illegal but it's not illegal to tape them on to VHS or DVD straight from the tv?

[CD Hanks]

MGM has sued people for downloading episodes of Dead Like Me.

Fortuantely I have both seasons here. Suckers.

[fireside]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
MGM has sued people for downloading episodes of Dead Like Me.

Fortuantely I have both seasons here. Suckers.

is that show any good?

[fireside]

Originally posted by His Dudeness:
How can downloading tv shows be illegal but it's not illegal to tape them on to VHS or DVD straight from the tv?

well its legal to tape from radio but not download mp3s.

[Sarc]

Originally posted by fireside:
well its legal to tape from radio but not download mp3s.

I'm pretty sure there's a quality issue somewhere. I remeber reading somewhere that the RIAA was worried about the quality of the music that you recorded, hence tape > legal, mp3 from CD > illegal.

[C.J. Moof]

Originally posted by His Dudeness:
How can downloading tv shows be illegal but it's not illegal to tape them on to VHS or DVD straight from the tv?

I'd predict the lawyer's argument to be "we approve of the distrubition of our content via broadcast and cable, but not via P2P internet sharing. Since we didn't approve of it, it's not legal."

I haven't let it stop me from getting an HDTV rip of a show that's broadcast in my area.

[His Dudeness]

If that's their argument, then CBS is going to have to stop broadcasting it's tv shows over the airwaves. As it still does, for free to the person with a tv and a vcr.

[ReggieX]

I'm doing my part!