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Nov 13, 2004, 05:52 PM
 
Just wondering. Also, how much of Pixar does Jobs own?
     
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Nov 13, 2004, 06:48 PM
 
I say about 53% of the common stock.
     
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Nov 13, 2004, 07:40 PM
 
Woz? a tiny fraction...below 1% I think. Steve Jobs I believe has something like 2%.
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Nov 13, 2004, 08:35 PM
 
According to the beneficial ownership from their latest proxy statement, Jobs owns 1.37% of Apple. They don't have to report the ownership of non-officers or non-Board members unless it's more than 5%. Given that Woz isn't listed, we at least know he owns less than 5%.

BTW, according to Yahoo! Finance, Apple's current common stock outstanding is 391.44MM. So, Jobs owns about 5.4MM shares. In about a year, this will double because of a restricted stock grant (that vests on the third anniversary) of 5MM shares he received for canceling all of his outstanding options.

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Nov 13, 2004, 09:50 PM
 
Wow that kinda sucks. I figured Jobs owned more of Apple. I think Jobs owns much more of Pixar than he does of Apple. You'd figure he'd spend more time over there. Then again I think Apple is more what he likes to do.
     
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Nov 13, 2004, 10:28 PM
 
Originally posted by Superchicken:
Wow that kinda sucks. I figured Jobs owned more of Apple. I think Jobs owns much more of Pixar than he does of Apple. You'd figure he'd spend more time over there. Then again I think Apple is more what he likes to do.
He sold all his shares but one in disgust just before being brought back.

Ya, he owns something like 70% of pixar.
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Nov 14, 2004, 04:07 AM
 
Originally posted by Mac Gorilla:
He sold all his shares but one in disgust just before being brought back.
Actually, he's sold two large lumps of stock; once in the 1980s after leaving Apple, and again in the 1990s just before returning to Apple.

Anyone have the totals on how much stock he sold in each of these tantrums (ok, only the first was a tantrum - the second was skillfuly planned) and an estimate of how much they would be worth at today's quote? Don't forget any splits.
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Nov 14, 2004, 04:59 AM
 
Originally posted by Dr. Wahnsinn:
Actually, he's sold two large lumps of stock; once in the 1980s after leaving Apple, and again in the 1990s just before returning to Apple.

Anyone have the totals on how much stock he sold in each of these tantrums (ok, only the first was a tantrum - the second was skillfuly planned) and an estimate of how much they would be worth at today's quote? Don't forget any splits.
I had no idea SJ sold right before coming back, since he seemingly engineered the reverse takeover that brought him back to power. If he sold right before the return then I suppose he wasn't thinking as far ahead as I presumed. I just thought he sold everything off after he left the company. And as for Woz, I would be surprised if he owned much AAPL at all after all these years. He was briefly brought back by Amelio along with SJ, and I didn't think he had much going on with Apple after that short period.

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Nov 14, 2004, 12:28 PM
 
Originally posted by MacGorilla:
He sold all his shares but one in disgust just before being brought back.

Ya, he owns something like 70% of pixar.
53.10%. With Pixar's current market cap of ~$4.89B, that 53.10% translates to ~$2.60B. That's a lot cookies.

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Originally posted by Dr. Wahnsinn:
Actually, he's sold two large lumps of stock; once in the 1980s after leaving Apple, and again in the 1990s just before returning to Apple.

Anyone have the totals on how much stock he sold in each of these tantrums (ok, only the first was a tantrum - the second was skillfuly planned) and an estimate of how much they would be worth at today's quote? Don't forget any splits.
If I have a few free minutes later today, I'll give it a go...if
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 12:43 PM
 
Originally posted by E's Lil Theorem:
According to the beneficial ownership from their latest proxy statement, Jobs owns 1.37% of Apple. They don't have to report the ownership of non-officers or non-Board members unless it's more than 5%. Given that Woz isn't listed, we at least know he owns less than 5%.

BTW, according to Yahoo! Finance, Apple's current common stock outstanding is 391.44MM. So, Jobs owns about 5.4MM shares. In about a year, this will double because of a restricted stock grant (that vests on the third anniversary) of 5MM shares he received for canceling all of his outstanding options.

Linkage to proxy statement.
OK, Apple is worth 21.5 billion, and if by the end of next year he's got 10.4 million shares, that's about 2.7%, worth about $575 million at today's stock prices.

Pixar is currently worth $4.9 billion, and this article says Jobs owns 55%, which means his Pixar stake is worth about $2.7 billion.

BTW, John Lasseter just sold 40000 shares of Pixar, which netted him a cool $2.9 million bux.

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Beaten to it by E's Lil Theorem, with more accurate info. Jobs' stake in Pixar is worth about $2.6 billion.
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 12:43 PM
 
How much of Disney is he going to own when he becomes the new CEO?
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 12:59 PM
 
Originally posted by the_glassman:
How much of Disney is he going to own when he becomes the new CEO?
enough to take over the world.
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Nov 14, 2004, 01:41 PM
 
Originally posted by the_glassman:
How much of Disney is he going to own when he becomes the new CEO?
I wouldn't wish that job on anyone.
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 01:55 PM
 
Originally posted by Big Mac:
I had no idea SJ sold right before coming back, since he seemingly engineered the reverse takeover that brought him back to power.
Yes, these were the shares that he received as part of the purchase of NeXT. Jobs had wanted to receive all cash for the deal but Gil Amelio insisted that Steve take a cash/stock deal. Jobs received $120,000,000 and 1.5 million shares. These were the shares he sold that precipitated Amelio being fired. I'll bet that Amelio wishes he had acceeded to Steve's demand that he receive all cash.

Originally posted by E's Lil Theorem:
If I have a few free minutes later today, I'll give it a go...if
If you have time, please do. It would be rather interesting to find out.
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Nov 14, 2004, 06:39 PM
 
Originally posted by Dr. Wahnsinn:
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If you have time, please do. It would be rather interesting to find out.
I looked for the amount of shares Jobs sold around the times you mentioned, but no cigar. It's a bit difficult given that companies didn't have to be very thorough back in those days when it came to filing the necessary documentation for such transactions. If any one finds those amounts, let us know. Once we have the amounts, it shouldn't be very difficult to find any stock splits/dividends in order to get a present value of those shares.
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 07:26 PM
 
Woz, though he really has no influence in Apple anymore, is an Apple Alumni, thus is permanently employed. He mentions sometimes he does informal product testing for them from time to time.
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Nov 14, 2004, 09:51 PM
 
Originally posted by E's Lil Theorem:
53.10%. With Pixar's current market cap of ~$4.89B, that 53.10% translates to ~$2.60B. That's a lot cookies.
Hmmm... He has 30,000,001 shares. 1 extra for good luck?
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 09:57 PM
 
Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Hmmm... He has 30,000,001 shares. 1 extra for good luck?
after reading the thread i would speculate that this extra share is the one he kept in the mid 90s.
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 11:47 PM
 
Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
after reading the thread i would speculate that this extra share is the one he kept in the mid 90s.
The 30,000,001 is his Pixar stake. He never sold his Pixar stock the way he did his Apple stock, you know, almost all of it.
     
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Nov 14, 2004, 11:53 PM
 
Originally posted by E's Lil Theorem:
The 30,000,001 is his Pixar stake. He never sold his Pixar stock the way he did his Apple stock, you know, almost all of it.
DUH!

i wasn't paying attention. my bad.
     
   
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