[benign]

'The God Gene' Hamer's book is actually about genetic markers for neurotransmitter variability and their subjective effect - and it is wrong.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai.../14/ngod14.xml

God gene' discovered by scientist 'behind' gay DNA theory

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...08622?v=glance

The comparison of a "God gene" with a "tribal warfare gene" is quite apt - except that no tribal wars, when the final tally is done, ever caused so many innocent deaths. The amount of deaths and sufferings caused by religion is far far greater than the man-made deaths caused by a few atheist tyrants in the 20th century. Hitler, Stalin and Mao might have killed up to one hundred million people. But that's puny compared to the sorry and blood-soaked record of religion: the Arab conquests, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the pogroms, the burning of "heretics" throughout history killed hundreds of millions more. The Thirty Years' War alone wiped out one-third of Germany's population. What's more, religion held back scientific progress for centuries. Copernicus and Galileo lived and died in fear for their astronomy discoveries, thanks to religion. Bruno burned at the stake for his. How many more scientists could have done their work in peace without religion's constantly getting in the way? Even Newton wasted huge amounts of time studying the Bible when he could have done more for physics. Religion is nonsense. And if we do have such genetic predisposition, science ought someday to rid us of this barbaric and primitive heritage for good by means of genetic engineering. Our morality is based on our capacity for altruism, and altruism is due solely and truly to our genes, shaped by evolution. Ants in the soldier class do not hesitate to fight and die for their colony without, I believe, any need for hope of reward or fear of punishment after death, or any other religious notions. Humans are lower than ants in this sense.

Hamer's rosy views of religion and its supposed "genes" are the result of his ignorance of the genetic causes for altruism and even more of a complete lack of historical knowledge. review by J.E.S on Amazon.com

[Apple Pro Underwear]

the people who buy these books are the same stubborn fanatics who the author caters to

[MacNStein]

Thanks, I ordered it, looks to be a good read.

[MacNStein]

Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
the people who buy these books are the same stubborn fanatics who the author caters to

Or, they're Theology professors who enjoy debunking such shite.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Yes, lets eradicate religion because there are a few supremacist jerks who think they're evolutionarily better without it..

Sound familiar?


What benign pulled was actually just a review of the book.

[Kilbey]

Bingo-guy, you sure are obsessed with religion. Me thinks thou dost protesteth tooeth much. *
















* This is my new standard reply to B9's trolling with his anti-religion slanted threads.

[benign]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
...
* This is my new standard reply to B9's trolling with his anti-religion slanted threads.

You are barking mad, and probably need
more serotonin for your 'ickle' brain Kiljoy.

The post was about the scientist 'behind' the gay DNA theory,
I thought the scientist is a little more interested in cash than
most of his peers... and the 'amazon review quote' -
put that into perspective.

[AB^2=BCxAC]

I'd look for better debunking than an Amazon.com review. Besides, theologians have a patent subjectivity, not to mention zero clout to debunk psychiatrists, neurologists, and chemists. I'm not saying that the scientists are always right, mind you, just that you have to measure your criticism with the same scale you weigh the orginal argument.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by benign:
[img]http://www.pawsitivesolutions.net/images/images/serotonin.jpg[ /img]
You are barking mad, and probably need
more serotonin for your 'ickle' brain Kiljoy.

Woof! Woof!

Bingo-guy, you sure are obsessed with religion. Me thinks thou dost protesteth tooeth much.

[MacNStein]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
Woof! Woof!

Bingo-guy, you sure are obsessed with religion. Me thinks thou dost protesteth tooeth much.

He's still trying to convince himself that he's an atheist. Apparently that's a daily chore.

[Apple Pro Underwear]

Originally posted by MacNStein:


Or, they're Theology professors who enjoy debunking such shite.

i tried to write it like it was nonsensical to get on these guy's nerves

thanks

[Scientist]

This is interesting. For the last couple days I have contemplated starting a thread concerning the genetic origins of a predisposition towards religious beliefs in humans. Thanks for the link, benign.

[willed]

I believe religion to be a mistake. And I'm a theologian... But I distrust a work which is 100% against religion as much as a work which is 100% for it. It shows that one isn't really thinking, but is in fact just relying on one's prejudices - unless one is a genius, which in this case (and in the case of all the poster here), somehow I doubt.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Yes, lets eradicate religion because there are a few supremacist jerks who think they're evolutionarily better without it..

It's the wav of the future.

Get used to it.

[willed]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
It's the wav of the future.

Get used to it.

We can but hope.

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
It's the wav of the future.

Get used to it.

Bah, FLAC and Apple Lossless are better than WAV.

[spiky_dog]

the scientist and science behind this book has absolutely no credibility. the book is all speculation, plus his own, single study with a very small sample size.

[kmkkid]

Originally posted by benign:

5. A little bit of 'E' to start the cycle over again



Chris