[brapper]

anyone else unable to get MacNN or the forums to load for most of the day?
Tried it from several computers and couldn't get it to go...any insight?

[ManOfSteal]

It happened when you reached 1,000 posts today...damn you!

[brapper]

haha imagine..


"enough of you..."

[historylme]

Yeah, I it sucked.

It's sad, I didn't realize how addicted I had become to this site. This sucks.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by history1me:
Yeah, I it sucked.

It's sad, I didn't realize how addicted I had become to this site. This sucks.

What? Holy crap I've been sitting here for 6 hours clicking reload?!? I didn't even know time was passing!

[sideus]

It was down?

[Demonhood]

"fiber cut causing massive problems in virginia/dc causing macnn.com to be inaccesible..."

[ManOfSteal]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
"fiber cut causing massive problems in virginia/dc causing macnn.com to be inaccesible..."

"vB 3 upgrade..."

[sideus]

Originally posted by manofsteal:
"vB 3 upgrade..."

That is what I was hoping.

[wowok1234]

Macsurfer was down during the same time period as MacNN was.

[itai195]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
"fiber cut causing massive problems in virginia/dc causing macnn.com to be inaccesible..."

Well I hope the perpetrators were thoroughly burninated, that's all I can say. How am I supposed to get any work done without MacNN?

[voodoo]

The forum looks different somehow

Hmmmmmmmm

Some of the Javascript buttons seem to be working for once.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by wowok1234:
Macsurfer was down during the same time period as MacNN was.

So were several other websites I care about (accessing).

What a sad day is the day when a 90 car pileup occurs on the information super highway!

[sworthy]

Originally posted by Xeo:
So were several other websites I care about (accessing).

What a sad day is the day when a 90 car pileup occurs on the information super highway!

Seriously... I thought the internet was broken - I had about a 50% success rate this afternoon.

[dillerX]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
"fiber cut causing massive problems in virginia/dc causing macnn.com to be inaccesible..."

that's gonna cost someone a job...

or two.

[Kenneth]

I thought MacNN and AI suddenly folded.. after the news of K-Mart/Sears.

[Sherwin]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
"fiber cut causing massive problems in virginia/dc causing macnn.com to be inaccesible..."

Meh. They need to build some more redundancy into this Internet thingy.

[Skip Breakfast]

[storer]

Originally posted by history1me:
Yeah, I it sucked.

It's sad, I didn't realize how addicted I had become to this site. This sucks.

I know! What teh fcuk is de going on?

[macintologist]

I know more than one site that was shutdown because of the fiber cut. That scares me actually...what would it take to shut down the internet..literally? :/

[tooki]

A utility crew accidentally cut the service provider's optical lines. While they did have other connections as well, they could not handle all the traffic of the downed connections, and so it was effectively offline.

The Internet is literally designed explicitly to survive nuclear war. The way it works is that if one connection goes down, the routers will notice that and find new routes for the data to take. To bring down the whole Internet, you'd have to sever all the backbones in the entire world, which would simply break the Internet into its constituent networks, any of which could be re-combined in some new way to re-build it.*

Obviously, the more connections go down, the slower the Internet would become. But basically, because the Internet is de-centralized, there is no single point of failure, and thus it's de-facto impossible to bring it down. All the critical systems, such as DNS, are distributed around the globe, and would be very difficult to disable completely.

tooki


*Note that this is also the reason that eavesdropping on all the traffic of the Internet, e.g. what some paranoid folks think the U.S. government is doing, is practically impossible -- there are too many points where data moves through, and at those points, it's too much data to process in any way other than just moving it where it needs to go.

[macintologist]

Originally posted by tooki:
A utility crew accidentally cut the service provider's optical lines. While they did have other connections as well, they could not handle all the traffic of the downed connections, and so it was effectively offline.

The Internet is literally designed explicitly to survive nuclear war. The way it works is that if one connection goes down, the routers will notice that and find new routes for the data to take. To bring down the whole Internet, you'd have to sever all the backbones in the entire world, which would simply break the Internet into its constituent networks, any of which could be re-combined in some new way to re-build it.*

Obviously, the more connections go down, the slower the Internet would become. But basically, because the Internet is de-centralized, there is no single point of failure, and thus it's de-facto impossible to bring it down. All the critical systems, such as DNS, are distributed around the globe, and would be very difficult to disable completely.

tooki


*Note that this is also the reason that eavesdropping on all the traffic of the Internet, e.g. what some paranoid folks think the U.S. government is doing, is practically impossible -- there are too many points where data moves through, and at those points, it's too much data to process in any way other than just moving it where it needs to go.

The thing is, for example, New York has an incredible backbone coming in from Europe. If New York got nuked, I think all trans-atlantic internet traffic would stop.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by macintologist:
The thing is, for example, New York has an incredible backbone coming in from Europe. If New York got nuked, I think all trans-atlantic internet traffic would stop.

Even if it did stop as a result, each of those two internets would continue to operate independently until a connection was reestablished and then it would all work as one big one again.

[SamuraiDL]

I dont know man

[tooki]

If all the lines linking North America and Europe were cut, the data would then flow through Asia to and from the U.S.

Mind you, there's far more than one transatlantic line.

To stop the Internet, you have to cut off all the connection points, because as long as any are left, the routers will find the working paths and use them.

tooki

[Randman]

Skynet.

[Sherwin]

Originally posted by tooki:
The Internet is literally designed explicitly to survive nuclear war.

The nuclear winter won't be much fun if we can't get to our favourite forum though.

[Demonhood]

Originally posted by Sherwin:
The nuclear winter won't be much fun if we can't get to our favourite forum though.

who needs food, shelter and protection from flesh-hungry mutants when you have the lounge to keep you busy!

[Randman]

Originally posted by Demonhood:
who needs food, shelter and protection from flesh-hungry mutants when you have the lounge to keep you busy!

I think most of the flesh-hungry mutants are in the political lounge anyway.