[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

"Adolescents who have two moms as parents are no different from teens growing up with a mother and a father, a new study finds."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...tswelladjusted

Lemmie guess, this study is wrong and only children of gay parents get teased in school.

[Blue Flame]

it'd be nice to have a link to the actual study to see alpha values and the anovas etc....i'm actually quite interested in their results.........

[OB1]

I don't see why they wouldn't be. I've known plenty of kids grow up with ONE parent and be fine. Don't all kids get teased at school at some point anyway?

Feeling paternal Disgruntled Head of C-3PO?

[TeknoTurd]

Every kid gets teased growing up. But, the ones who stand out get humiliated daily until they either fix what makes them stand out or move to an area where people don't know about what makes them different.

[BasketofPuppies]

Star Wars Guy, if you insist on being obnoxious about your opinions, there's a better place on this forum to express them.

[Eriamjh]

"He didn't give you 'gay', did he?" - Homer

[Superchicken]

Originally posted by TeknoTurd:
Every kid gets teased growing up. But, the ones who stand out get humiliated daily until they either fix what makes them stand out or move to an area where people don't know about what makes them different.

Yah... poor fat kids...

[Mithras]

Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
Star Wars Guy, if you insist on being obnoxious about your opinions, there's a better place on this forum to express them.

Yeah, that's such an obnoxious opinion.

[the_glassman]

I'm sure most will be fine. I had the two biggest f#ckps known to man as my parents. I'd like to think I came out okay.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
Star Wars Guy, if you insist on being obnoxious about your opinions, there's a better place on this forum to express them.

Get lost, this is not a political topic.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Get lost, this is not a political topic.

No, this is you trying to egg people into making this a bitch-fest.

[wdlove]

The reality of this trial won't be known for years.

[Spliffdaddy]

Unless I'm mistaken, kids can't have two mothers or two fathers. They can, however, have a step-mother and a mother or a step-father and a father.

[PacHead]

Gays can fornicate all day long for all I care, but I don't buy into the theory that children who have two mothers or two fathers are as well adjusted, compared to another child who has a mother with a vagina and a father with a penis. One is natural, the other is not, regardless of what any pro-gay person thinks or claims.

[hayesk]

Originally posted by TeknoTurd:
Every kid gets teased growing up. But, the ones who stand out get humiliated daily until they either fix what makes them stand out or move to an area where people don't know about what makes them different.

Bull. It's all how the kids accept the teasing. If they act like a victim then they will continue to be treated like a victim. If they take the teasing and act like it doesn't bother them, they are much better off.

Kids who tease have are generally trying to boost their self-esteem. When they tease other kids, they do it because they think it will make themselves look better in comparison. They are only looking for a negative reaction. If they don't get that negative reaction, they move on to something else.

Kids who get teased don't have to *fix* anything except how they accept the teasing. Moving away is a weak and temporary solution.

[sideus]

Like my girlfriend says, "The puzzle pieces just don't fit!".

[hayesk]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Gays can fornicate all day long for all I care, but I don't buy into the theory that children who have two mothers or two fathers are as well adjusted, compared to another child who has a mother with a vagina and a father with a penis. One is natural, the other is not, regardless of what any pro-gay person thinks or claims.

You may not buy into the theory, but that tells more about you than the theory.

What about kids of hetero alcoholics? Child abusers? Is that natural? Is it ok that fighting couples stay together "for the kids"? Is that natural?

There are occurances of homosexuality in nature. So I guess it is "natural."

[PacHead]

Originally posted by hayesk:
You may not buy into the theory, but that tells more about you than the theory.

What about kids of hetero alcoholics? Child abusers? Is that natural? Is it ok that fighting couples stay together "for the kids"? Is that natural?

There are occurances of homosexuality in nature. So I guess it is "natural."

Some kinds of animals eat their offspring also, I guess that's "natural" also.

And what about kids with alcholic parents/child abusers ? Did I say that was natural ? Did I say it was ok or fine & dandy ? That has nothing to do with two people with penises (or not) raising a child.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Gays can fornicate all day long for all I care, but I don't buy into the theory that children who have two mothers or two fathers are as well adjusted, compared to another child who has a mother with a vagina and a father with a penis. One is natural, the other is not, regardless of what any pro-gay person thinks or claims.

Do you have any data to back up your personal beliefs?

You think most womans hair colour is natural? The food you eat, the fact that you fly in planes? Yet you draw the line at 2 loving same sex parents

[phoenixboy70]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Gays can fornicate all day long for all I care, but I don't buy into the theory that children who have two mothers or two fathers are as well adjusted, compared to another child who has a mother with a vagina and a father with a penis. One is natural, the other is not, regardless of what any pro-gay person thinks or claims.

you can cling to your ignorance all you want. fact is, kids from same sex marriages turn out just as good as "average" children (i've seen studies from other countries that point to the same results), and certainly a lot better than those who were raised in a overly restrictive or broken home. they are ususally the ones who wind up having problems later on in life. again, something that reflects my experience.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by hayesk:
There are occurances of homosexuality in nature. So I guess it is "natural."

That's been debunked time and time again in here.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Do you have any data to back up your personal beliefs?

Actually SWF, I've seen data supporting both sides of the equation.

If you go looking for something. You'll surely find it.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by TeknoTurd:
Every kid gets teased growing up. But, the ones who stand out get humiliated daily until they either fix what makes them stand out or move to an area where people don't know about what makes them different.

I got teased for being fat and for being outwardly Christian (wearing Jesus shirts and all that). The Christian part is sad because all those losers were Christian themselves. But they made fun of me for wearing the shirts because I gave them the reaction they were looking for.

Maybe I should have stopped loving god for them?

[Blue Flame]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
That's been debunked time and time again in here.

Actually, he's right. There are a species of wolves that exhibit homosexual tendencies, the difference however, is that these wolves are never exclusively homosexual, they have hetero relationships as well.

I'm not going to weigh in on this discussion because, as with any other topic requiring intellect, it's not going to go anywhere here. I renew my petition for the raw data and calculations for this study because I am, indeed, interested in their findings. I'm not interested, however, in a news source's interpretations of those findings.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by Xeo:
I got teased for being fat and for being outwardly Christian (wearing Jesus shirts and all that). The Christian part is sad because all those losers were Christian themselves. But they made fun of me for wearing the shirts because I gave them the reaction they were looking for.

Maybe I should have stopped loving god for them?

At least they didn't declare ware and conquer you in the name of God.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
You think most womans hair colour is natural? The food you eat, the fact that you fly in planes? Yet you draw the line at 2 loving same sex parents

Wow I never quite thought about that. Not much in our lives is natural anymore. But in all honestly, everything is natural because we, ourselves, are part of nature. Therefore just because something is man-made doesn't make it unnatural. It did occur in nature through us. Along the same lines, a same-sex couple raising a family is just as natural as anything else. They just won't be having their kids on accident, which only strengthens the possibility of the family being a good home and environment for the child.

The only thing unnatural would be things that are supernatural.

[ironknee]

the normal way is to have a male and a female parent. who also are christians...

look how mary cheney turned out

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Blue Flame:
Actually, he's right. There are a species of wolves that exhibit homosexual tendencies, the difference however, is that these wolves are never exclusively homosexual, they have hetero relationships as well.

I'm not going to weigh in on this discussion because, as with any other topic requiring intellect, it's not going to go anywhere here. I renew my petition for the raw data and calculations for this study because I am, indeed, interested in their findings. I'm not interested, however, in a news source's interpretations of those findings.

Unless you can ask a wolf itself it's just a guess.

I've caught my dog humping a stuffed bear I have on many ocassions.

Does that mean he is into "fluffies" ?

He sure liked that bear...

[kmkkid]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Some kinds of animals eat their offspring also, I guess that's "natural" also.

And what about kids with alcholic parents/child abusers ? Did I say that was natural ? Did I say it was ok or fine & dandy ? That has nothing to do with two people with penises (or not) raising a child.

#1 You're a retard.

#2 I'm sure kids who grew up with only an older brother and a father have ajusted just fine.



Chris

[Superchicken]

You know... I hear homosexuals are snappy dressers and can drive cars. They're often actually very similar to other people around them who are not homosexual. Go figure that they might be able to raise children. In my early development I barely had a mother or a father, my mom had a C section without drugs so she was a basket case for the next four years, and my dad never really wanted me after the birth thing for a very long time. Hearing stories about it recently makes me realize just why I'm so bloody screwed up. That said in many people's eyes I'm well adjusted. Parenting influences Children it doesn't determine them.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by PacHead:
That has nothing to do with two people with penises (or not) raising a child.

What is your fascination with penis'? Since when is 1 parent with a penis ok but 2 and the kid is warped? Sure if they slapped the kid with their penis the kid may turn out warped but other then that I don't see how it would negatively effect them.

Unless the kid gets teased by hateful homophobes but then the problem is with the other people not them.

[Stradlater]

Originally posted by Superchicken:
Parenting influences Children it doesn't determine them.

No, but their genetic material often does.

[Blue Flame]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Unless you can ask a wolf itself it's just a guess.

I've caught my dog humping a stuffed bear I have on many ocassions.

Does that mean he is into "fluffies" ?

He sure liked that bear...

Um...........when a male wolf sticks his penis into another male's ass, there's not too much left to the imagination. Whether you want to call the wolf a homosexual (which I never did by the way) or not, it's still dipping his pen in another male's ink.

I'm not arguing for or against anything, I'm merely rebutting misinformation that's been put forth in this thread.

[MindFad]

Wait, the queers are allowed to raise kids now? What's next, marriage? Guffaw!

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Blue Flame:
Um...........when a male wolf sticks his penis into another male's ass, there's not too much left to the imagination.

That doesn't mean they prefer males. Dogs freakin hump anything!!

They also eat cat poop, and puke. I've seen it.

Is that natural for a human to do that too?

We lose as a human race when we start using the actions of animals to justify our own.

[kmkkid]

I dont understand where people get this 'not natural' crap from.


I was born gay, I didnt wake up and decide to be attracted to guys or start to like sucking ****.

I can't deny what I am, what I was born to be a gay man.

Population control? maybe, something else? who knows. But it is natural when we are born this way.


Chris

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Hey guys, don't tell anyone but I heard this little rumor that:

a) Straight people LOVE to have anal sex. Guys like to give and receive. Many videos/websites can be found.
b) Not all gay people have anal sex.

The funny thing is 3 of my friends are teachers in Catholic schools. The students always talk about how they have "anal sex" because they think they aren't really having sex before marriage and aren't sinning. Oh where to begin with that one.

Secondly, the Catholic school my friend works at has the highest pregnancy rate in the provence. Golden.

Third, put "Gay" in a title and watch Zimphire be drawn in like a fly to **** with his "expert" knowledge.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by kmkkid:
I dont understand where people get this 'not natural' crap from.


I was born gay, I didnt wake up and decide to be attracted to guys or start to like sucking ****.

I can't deny what I am, what I was born to be a gay man.

Population control? maybe, something else? who knows. But it is natural when we are born this way.


Chris

Straight "experts" will say it is a mental disease that can be cured through the power of Jesus, just ask Zimphires uncle.

Also, I love the way straight guys use the derogitory term of "c0cksucker", they don't seem to mind when any girl offers it to them though

[the_glassman]

How do couples of the same sex have children? I thought it was biologically impossible?

[kmkkid]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Straight "experts" will say it is a mental disease that can be cured through the power of Jesus, just ask Zimphires uncle.

Also, I love the way straight guys use the derogitory term of "c0cksucker", they don't seem to mind when any girl offers it to them though

Mental diseases are natural too How many people suffer from bipolarism? Too many to count.


Chris

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by the_glassman:
How do couples of the same sex have children? I thought it was biologically impossible?

That better be a joke.

[kmkkid]

Originally posted by the_glassman:
How do couples of the same sex have children? I thought it was biologically impossible?

They both jackoff into a blender, blend for 5 seconds, and voila a baby is made.






Chris

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Straight "experts" will say it is a mental disease that can be cured through the power of Jesus, just ask Zimphires uncle.

Yes, the same Straight "experts" that claimed homosexuality wasn't a mental disorder.

http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/spitzer3.html

[the_glassman]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
That better be a joke.

Not really, I mean if you are gay (by choice or born) aren't you kind of giving up the right to have children?

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yes, the same Straight "experts" that claimed homosexuality wasn't a mental disorder.

http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/spitzer3.html

That's nice. Since he is the final word everyone go on believing it is wrong to be gay.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

I say the US has bigger problems then gay parents. At least they don't pregnant by accident.

"The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate of any developed country. It is twice as high as England, France & Canada, three times as high as Sweden and four times as high as The Netherlands."

[PacHead]

Originally posted by the_glassman:
Not really, I mean if you are gay (by choice or born) aren't you kind of giving up the right to have children?

Yep, that was sort of my point also. Nothing against gays, but they don't have any right to children.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
That's nice. Since he is the final word everyone go on believing it is wrong to be gay.

When did I say that?

You acted as if he was some crack pot.

He is the SAME guy that lead the team to get homosexuality taken OUT of the book of mental disorders.

Now he believes that people can change their sexuality.

You like being gay, that is cool SWF. Some do not. They should have that right to be able to change if it is indeed possible.

And from this guy's studies he comes to the conclusion that yes it is indeed possible.

No one is saying you should go straight. That is on you.

[AB^2=BCxAC]

Zimph, Pac... admittedly this is one of those topics that desperately begs for you to walk in another person's shoes, and you refuse to do it. If you were gay, I doubt you'd really think that there is any moral equality between studies that try to reinforce homosexuality as deviant and dangerous and those which try to disprove stereotypes that cause harmless people like Matthew Shephard to be persecuted to death.

[Blue Flame]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
That doesn't mean they prefer males. Dogs freakin hump anything!!

Dogs don't stick their wang anywhere. Believe it or not, when a dog "humps" your leg, it has nothing to do with being horny.

We lose as a human race when we start using the actions of animals to justify our own.

True. I never said that because some wolves get it on with their own sex that that meant that homosexuality was a natural thing, or that it was biological, or any of that. I actually didn't comment at all on anything of that nature (if you reread my posts you'll see that).

All I did was correct misinformation. That's it.