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Five people were fatally shot and three others seriously wounded around noon Sunday, allegedly by a deer hunter from St. Paul, Minn.

The shooting began after he was told to leave a deer stand on private land in the Town of Meteor, east of Birchwood, in northwestern Wisconsin.

Jake Hodgkinson, a deputy at the county jail, identified the suspect as Chai Vang but would give no additional identification. Several news organizations in Minneapolis-St. Paul reported he was 36 years old and from St. Paul.

Sawyer County Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle said he was taken into custody about 5:15 p.m.

It’s not known who shot first, he said, and some of the victims may have shot back at the suspect.

The suspect was “sniping” at the victims with an SKS, a military assault-style weapon, Zeigle said. He was “chasing after them and killing them,” he said.

When Vang was arrested, he was out of ammunition, Zeigle said.

One of the fatalities was female, he said. Another was a teenage boy, and the rest were men. Some of the victims were shot more than once.

All five were dead when officers arrived, Zeigle said. Two people who stayed in the cabin emerged safely after the shootings.

The shooting occurred near a deer shack on heavily wooded land about four miles east of Birchwood. The shack sits about a half-mile off Deer Lake Road just across from Deer Lake in the Town of Meteor in southwestern Sawyer County.

The three injured hunters were taken to Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake. One of the injured was then airlifted to St. Joseph’s Hospital in Marshfield.

http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/...18732759.shtml

[Face Ache]

Cool!

I mean... err... that's terrible!

[brutal]

Jeez. What's this world coming to..?

[effgee]

if the whole story wasn't so tragic this would be hilarious ...

• ... “Things like that just don’t happen around here,” Olson, chairman of the 170-resident Town of Meteor, said. ...

oopsie.

[CD Hanks]

ahahahhahhaah

That's horrible.















hahahhahhahaha

[Apple Pro Underwear]

now they know how the deer felt

bad karma

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
now they know how the deer felt

bad karma

If hunting for sport, yeah, **** em. But if they were really going to eat what they hunted...well, venison is quite good.

[MilkmanDan]

Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
now they know how the deer felt

bad karma

Only if they get strapped to the hood of a truck and driven down the interstate after being shot and gutted in some parking lot.

[chris v]

Sad. So is this:

http://www.all-creatures.org/cash/taah-sh-2003.html

[wdlove]

My prayers go out to the family and friends of the victims.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Idiots and guns. A winning combination.

[brapper]

ugh...not funny people.
Imagine being the people that were chased down and killed or their families.

[Zimphire]

Yeah some of you need to seek help. It's no laughing matter.

[d4nth3m4n]

the guy was trying to hunt deer with an sks, that is a bit of a laughing matter.

[Timo]

Originally posted by brapper:
ugh...not funny people.
Imagine being the people that were chased down and killed or their families.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
the guy was trying to hunt deer with an sks, that is a bit of a laughing matter.

Wait, an SKS!? Crap, I must have missed that bit...

Clearly he wasn't planning on soley hunting animals...

[TheBadgerHunter]

I'm sorry, but this reminds me of that simpsons episode... and a few other things that are all funny. Very tragic tho.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Sounds like one hell of a white trash weekend.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Sounds like one hell of a white trash weekend.

Cept the guy who did it isn't Caucasian.

[BoomStick]

There definately should be an iq test before someone can buy a gun.

Why the he|| was he hunting with a freaking SKS?

Here in GA the gun can't have a magazine capacity of over 5 rounds.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Cept the guy who did it isn't Caucasian.

Asian trash ?

[PacHead]

Originally posted by effgee:

... “Things like that just don’t happen around here,” Olson, chairman of the 170-resident Town of Meteor, said. ...
oopsie.

That's what they all say.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Asian trash ?

Immagents, I new it was the immagents!

[chris v]

I think in addition to Bow-hunting, black-powder season and the regular rifle season, we should institute a single-action snub-nose revolver season. No barrel over 3" in length. That way, you've got to get right up on that deer and practically grab it in order to assure a good hit, and when you use up your six shots, the deer has a right to gore you if it survives.

[Spliffdaddy]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Sounds like one hell of a white trash weekend.

Nah. Just typical yankees.

[d4nth3m4n]

Sheriff outlines chain of events in shootings

Star Tribune
November 22, 2004 SHOTPRESS1123_


HAYWARD, WIS. -- The first three victims in a hunting camp shooting in northwestern Wisconsin on Sunday were apparently taken by surprise, and the other five were hit when they came to help, the Sawyer County Sheriff said today.


Sheriff Jim Meier said during a news conference that the suspect, Chai Vang, 36, of St. Paul, apparently came into the county with other friends to hunt on public land where he may have hunted before.


Vang apparently became lost and asked some other hunters for directions. At some point, Meier said, Vang wandered onto a privately owned 400-acre tract where he discovered and occupied a deer stand.


The tract is well marked with "no trespassing'' signs Meier said.


The owners of the tract were at a hunting camp on the property and one of the members of the party, on an ATV, found Vang in the tree stand at around noon. The man used a walkie-talkie to call back to camp to ask if Vang had permission to hunt there.


He was told no and asked Vang to leave, Meier said. Two other members of the party joined the first member.


Vang agreed, climbed down and walked away.


''The suspect was walking away at the time. For some apparent reason he turned and opened fire on them,'' Meier said, hitting the man with the walkie-talkie.


That man called for help and when other members of the party responded Vang allegedly opened fire on them, too, the sheriff said.


Other members of the hunting party left the camp and, unarmed, tried to help, he said.

"The rescuers, who also came under fire, checked bodies for signs of life," Meier said. "They grabbed who they could grab and get out of there because they were still under fire....They put those people in a truck. Some of victims were obviously decesased and they were left at the scene."


The wounded were taken to into Birchwood for ambulance care and then taken to Rice Lake Hospital, Meier said.


The injured were identified as Lauren Hesebeck and Dennis Drew, both hospitalized in Rice Lake, and Terry Willers, hospitalized in Marshfield, Wis. Authorities said the dead were Robert Crotteau, 42, and his son, Joey, 20; Al Laski, 43; Mark Roidt, 28; and Jessica Willers, 27, daughter of Terry Willers.


The man who first confronted Vang and who was wounded wrote down in the dust on his ATV the number on the hunting license Vang had pinned to his back. Police were able to use the number to get Vang's name and relay it to other law enforcement officials.


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The shooting ended after about 15 minutes and Vang disappeared.


Later in the afternoon, a game warden told two men riding ATVs to watch for Vang and gave them Vang's hunting license number, Meier said. Later in the day, the two ATVers came upon a hunter told them he was lost. The two men volunteered to take the hunter for help. When they saw his license number and realized the lost man was Vang and they asked if they could take him to a game warden. Vang agreed, Meier said.


Jeremy Peery, 28, a DNR conservation warden from Ladysmith, arrested Vang abotu 3/4 of a mile from the shooting scene along a logging road.


Peery recognized the license tag on Vang's back and made the arrest. Vang did not resist. ''He was very calm. He didn't say anything. It's interesting that he was that calm,'' Peery said. He cuffed Vang and put him into his DNR vehicle.


Vang is in custody at the Sawyer County Jail. He has not confessed to a crime, Meier said.


Law enforcement agencies including the Sawyer, Barron and Rusk county sheriff's departments, local police departments, the FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are investigating as are agencies in the Twin Cities, Meier said.


Meier said Vang was a naturalized American citizen originally from Laos and had military experience. He speaks English well, Meier said.


A woman who said she was Vang's sister and that she lives in Minneapolis, but who wouldn't give her name, arrived in the area at mid-morning. Asked if her brother is innocent of the crime, she said ''I don't know.''


Two surviving victims of the rampage were shot from only a few dozen yards away, the surgeon who treated them said today.


Dr. Lynn Koob told reporters at Lakeview Medical Center this morning that Denny Drew and Lauren Hesebeck were shot from about 50 yards away by someone using a high-powered weapon. Koob said the injuries "ranked right up there" with the worst he had seen at the hospital, which occasionally treats gunshot victims.


Koob said he concluded the weapons were high powered due to the amount of tissue damage. He said he knew the victims and their families, but "emotions take a back seat when you're in the operating room. After we're done with the surgery, the emotions kind of catch up to you sometimes."


Drew remained in critical condition this morning, Koob said. Doctors were weaning him off medications to support his blood pressure and his vital organs were working well today.


"It seems like he is stabilizing," Koob said. "He's actually doing a little better than last night."


Koob described how Drew had been shot by a bullet that tore through his abdominal cavity and organs before exiting the other side of his body.


Hesebeck, the other surviving victim at Lakeview, was listed in stable condition today after being shot in the shoulder and arm. His wounds did "not involve any vital structures," Koob said.


A third man, Terry Willers, was being treated at Marshfield Clinic for a gunshot wound to his neck and shoulder. Willers had some "bony injuries," Koob said, but reported that the staff in Marshfield said he was "doing fine" today.


Hospital president and CEO Ned Wolf was generous with praise for the emergency room staff today.


"Our folks did an admirable job," Wolf said. He noted that the hospital had procedures in place to deal with massive trauma, and to transport patients such as Willers to other facilities.


The hospital was put into lockdown overnight "to ensure that the families weren't overwhelmed by well-wishers and others who were concerned," Wolf said. Barron County Sheriff Tom Richie said the victims were all "well-known, well-respected members of our community."


Authorities planned to release the names of the five people killed in the shootings at a press conference scheduled for early this afternoon.


A fund has been established for the families of survivors and victims of the shootings. Contributions can be sent to: blah blah blah.

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[BoomStick]

He's a poacher.

It's rampant with immigrants that have no regard with our laws.

[effgee]

Originally posted by BoomStick:
He's a poacher. It's rampant with immigrants that have no regard with our laws.

you surely meant to say:

• "... rampant with ignorant idiots that have no regard for our language."

right?

fudgepickle.

[rhansen_x]

Okay, enough white-trash comments. I'm from WI and have hunted in the past (yes, I ate what I killed - for you PETA freaks).

This is very sad and shouldn't be taken lightly. I think that the the Government should stop taking $$$ from the NRA and pass laws that limit the type of weapons being sold in this country. I'm not saying ban guns, just limit them.

This is the type of event that brings out all sorts of opinions on constitutional rights.

[dillerX]

Originally posted by effgee:
fudgepickle.

hahahaha. nice.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by BoomStick:
He's a poacher.

It's rampant with immigrants that have no regard with our laws.

Spoken like a true Conservative. You're a credit to your group.

[Goldfinger]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Asian trash ?

A Foreign Agent™

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by BoomStick:
He's a poacher.

It's rampant with immigrants that have no regard with our laws.

I see more Americans that commit crimes and no regard for YOUR laws rather then "immigrants".

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
I see more Americans that commit crimes and no regard for YOUR laws rather then "immigrants".

Nothing wrong with "immigrants", it's the criminal, illegal ones that should be rounded up like cattle and placed in detention centers, where they will await their deportation back to their wonderful places of origins.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Nothing wrong with "immigrants", it's the criminal, illegal ones that should be rounded up like cattle and placed in detention centers, where they will await their deportation back to their wonderful places of origins.

Should we also ship criminal Americans there?

[Zimphire]

That was about a stupid comment.

We have places for citizens that break the law. We keep em here because they are citizens.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Should we also ship criminal Americans there?

No, you obviously don't have a good grasp of common law. Criminal Americans are still Americans, they get to stay here, dead or alive. We either throw them in some jail, or we'll fry 'em if their crime is particularly bad.

Other criminals, the kind that are illegaly here to begin with, have no right to be here in the first place.

[effgee]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Should we also ship criminal Americans there?

who'd want them?

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yeah some of you need to seek help. It's no laughing matter.

hey guys check this out. Zimphire starts a thread about roasting marshmallows on a man that sets himself on fire. But when it involves non-Americans WE are the ones that need help.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=235491

Now that is a good ol' Christian.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
hey guys check this out. Zimphire starts a thread about roasting marshmallows on a man that sets himself on fire. But when it involves non-Americans WE are the ones that need help.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=235491

Now that is a good ol' Christian.

This and that is a bit different. These people were hunted down and shot.

The guy in the article in the thread above set himself on fire, and lived. I made a joke.

If you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you.

You're just being a typical fanboy again.

BTW that is the second absurd comparison you've made today. Congratulations.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
This and that is a bit different. These people were hunted down and shot.

The guy in the article in the thread above set himself on fire, and lived. I made a joke.

If you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you.

You're just being a typical fanboy again.

BTW that is the second absurd comparison you've made today. Congratulations.

Ya NOTHING funnier then someone setting themselves on fire. As for fanboy everyone else in the thread said you were a complete A$shole long before I even came by.

You keep confusing someone being a fan with someone thinking you are a jerk.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
hey guys check this out. Zimphire starts a thread about roasting marshmallows on a man that sets himself on fire. But when it involves non-Americans WE are the ones that need help.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=235491

Now that is a good ol' Christian.

It would seem like the deranged person who set himself on fire while shouting some silly crap is the person who needed help.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Ya NOTHING funnier then someone setting themselves on fire.

Yeah, I put "Get out your marshmellows" Oh boy.. :roll:

As for fanboy everyone else in the thread said you were a complete A$shole long before I even came by.

No, just the same fanboys as usual said it. Other laughed too. Stop exaggerating.

You keep confusing someone being a fan with someone thinking you are a jerk.

Come on, the way you act in here, are you in any position to be talking down to anyone acting the jerk when you've been doing nothing but since you been in this forum?

Take your petty silliness a few posts earlier.

Get a grip.

You are a posterboy for fanboys everywhere.

[DeathToWindows]

If this bloke gets off on an insanity plea, I have no faith in the criminal psychology system.

Good Lord, what a nutjob - and I looked up that gun - HOLY ****, why was he hunting with it?

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by MilkmanDan:
Only if they get strapped to the hood of a truck and driven down the interstate after being shot and gutted in some parking lot.

What a hypocrite.. [unless you are a Vegan]

If you are a meat eater, you should cry for the deer in the same way that you cry for the corn that is harvested every year... or the poor cow that gave up his or her life to make that Big Mac your eating, those shoes you are wearing... or that innocent little chicken that was brutally killed to make your McNuggets.

Without hunting or "harvesting" of deer, the population would either become very sick or starve.

[fireside]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Other criminals, the kind that are illegaly here to begin with, have no right to be here in the first place.

didn't it say in the article that the guy was an american citizen?

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

"A man suspected in the killings of six hunters told investigators he began firing after he was shot at first and some of the victims called him racially derogatory names, according to documents filed Tuesday."

Call racially derogatory names by a bunch of small town hunters!?? I don't believe it!

[PacHead]

Originally posted by fireside:
didn't it say in the article that the guy was an american citizen?

I never said he wasn't. That was a reply to a derailment by somebody.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
"A man suspected in the killings of six hunters told investigators he began firing after he was shot at first and some of the victims called him racially derogatory names, according to documents filed Tuesday."

Call racially derogatory names by a bunch of small town hunters!?? I don't believe it!

Heck it even happens to gay Canadians that live in the big city!

White trash, redneck etc.

All racial slurs.

But that's different right?

[Rolling Bones]

Since this thread has gone 'racist' and fodder for 'bigots' I may as well bring politics into this.

Anyone know if the victims were Republicans?