[Rolling Bones]

My psychiatrist has put me on paxil and along with the lorazepam the world looks rosy even tho it is a rotating ball of sh!t.

Thank you pharmaceuticals.

Best thing evaar!

[Zimphire]

Ativan (Lorazepam) is in the same family as Xanax (Alprazolam) and Valium (Diazepam). They basically do the same thing. They are all benzodiazepines.

Paxil might give you weird dreams and cause you not to be able to ejaculate.

Which could amuse your GF (OR BF) for days if you have one.

You having anxiety/depression problems?

[TailsToo]

You sharin'?

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by TailsToo:
You sharin'?

You don't want hooked on benzodiazepines unless a doctor is giving them to you.

http://www.benzo.org.uk/ashloraz.htm

[MacNStein]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
My psychiatrist has put me on paxil and along with the lorazepam the world looks rosy even tho it is a rotating ball of sh!t.

Thank you pharmaceuticals.

Best thing evaar!

It's not working, you're still too damned annoying.

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
You don't want hooked on benzodiazepines unless a doctor is giving them to you.

http://www.benzo.org.uk/ashloraz.htm

Zimph is right. I deal with benzo addicts everyday at work. They are far and away the worst addicts to deal with. We probably get 15 benzo addicts on any given day that come in med seeking. Use with caution and follow the doctor's directions for use.

[PacHead]

That's odd, the guy is always on my case. I figured the pills he was popping would look like this.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
My psychiatrist has put me on paxil and along with the lorazepam the world looks rosy even tho it is a rotating ball of sh!t.

Thank you pharmaceuticals.

Best thing evaar!

You are in for some real fun if you ever have to go off either. I took a lorazepam ONCE to help me sleep, I was sick for 24 hours. My sister is addicted to them as she had to take them to counteract some other medication that stimulated her. She has been trying to get off them for 3 months but every time she tries she gets really sick.

Everything I have heard about Paxil is bad. One you will have a real hard time ejaculating and many lawsuits are in the works as it is all but impossible to come off it without getting really really ill.

You think you had problems before the drugs you are in for a surprise.

[Rolling Bones]

I regret starting this thread as any illness of the greymatter kind is looked on as a weakness and people here will always go for the throat of someone with any perceived weakness. But i was in a euphoric state of mind at the time and I probably shouldn't have pushed the post button. But I can always go away, I guess.

Without going into boring detail it all started the day I thought I was having a heart attack....

...but it wasn't a heart attack.

If you know what I'm talking about...well you know the rest of the story. If you don't know, well you don't need to worry...unless you are effected by it thru a friend or family member and even then you would not fully understand.

If anyone ever refers to me as a 'nutbar' in some future thread I will confirm it.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
I regret starting this thread as any illness of the greymatter kind is looked on as a weakness and people here will always go for the throat of someone with any perceived weakness. But i was in a euphoric state of mind at the time and I probably shouldn't have pushed the post button. But I can always go away, I guess.

Hey if you need it you need it. All I was telling you is the horrible side effects to the 2 drugs you are taking. You might want to look at alternatives.

[Rolling Bones]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Hey if you need it you need it. All I was telling you is the horrible side effects to the 2 drugs you are taking. You might want to look at alternatives.

Hey...don't worry, I have. And some are and have been scary. This has taken time and experimentation.

[nerd]

Don't feel bad about taking things. I've been on Serzone (Nefazodone) for about 5 years now and it's the best thing I ever done. I've been more motivated for things, sleep better, don't have mood swings, etc. People trip out when I tell them I take anti-depressants and really freak out when I tell them how long I've taken them for. Most of these people don't have problems (if you would even call it that). During high school I was on Ritilan because I was never interested in things and wasn't motivated to do much. 10 years later I got on anti-depressants and realized that my problem was mild depression.

I've taken Lorazepam before. My mom takes them and has given me a couple here and there. When I've taken them I've only taken half of one of her pills and man do I sleep good. I don't ask her for them much because I have a hard time sleeping at times and I know I would become to depended on those.

I just wanted to throw some support out there. If you need the meds then take them and don't feel bad about it.

Brad

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Everything I have heard about Paxil is bad. One you will have a real hard time ejaculating and many lawsuits are in the works as it is all but impossible to come off it without getting really really ill.

I was on Paxil for 8 months in 1998-1999. I was able to ween off it over a 2-week period (taking only 1/2 pill a day).

During the weening off it, the only issues I had were some extremely visual dreams, and the occaissional dizzy spell (lasted only 30 seconds or so.. could have been low blood sugar, though, for that's what it felt like).

When it's time to come off the Paxil, don't fret. It's really not that big of a deal as long as, during the first 10-14 days off it, you remind yourself that you are cleansing yourself.

The more important things to be concerned about are changing your diet and physical activity for the better. Nutritious diets and excercise are the natural ways to boost your body's seratonin. And if you get nailed by stress and anxiety, B-complex vitamins can help tremendously.

Changing the ways you deal with stress and emotional issues is also important. It's a matter of rewiring your mind. For me, I deal with adversity much differently than I used to.

As for the lawsuits, most have to do with the overprescribing to minors in conjunction with the lack of testing on that population. For your average adult, there have been very few problems w/Paxil.

Rolling Bones: I'm glad you're feeling better. People who have never needed a stint on medication have no idea the difference Paxil and it's relatives can make. I used to be one of those people who would say about depressed people "Just get over it". Now I realize that it's not that easy.

Do try and make some lifestyle changes. Once I started to feel better, I knew that I didn't want to have to rely on antidepressants for the rest of my life.

As for the ejaculation problems - if you experience them, and it troubles you, don't hesitate to ask your doctor to switch you over to Lexapro. Like Paxil, it's a seratonin reuptake inhibitor. However, a lot less people report ejaculation problems as a side effect with Lexapro. Somewhat less problems with Celexa, too, from what I've heard, but Lexapro seems to be the best in terms of not screwing so much with male sexuality and performance.

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
I regret starting this thread as any illness of the greymatter kind is looked on as a weakness and people here will always go for the throat of someone with any perceived weakness. But i was in a euphoric state of mind at the time and I probably shouldn't have pushed the post button. But I can always go away, I guess.

Without going into boring detail it all started the day I thought I was having a heart attack....

...but it wasn't a heart attack.

If you know what I'm talking about...well you know the rest of the story. If you don't know, well you don't need to worry...unless you are effected by it thru a friend or family member and even then you would not fully understand.

If anyone ever refers to me as a 'nutbar' in some future thread I will confirm it.

No need to regret it, there's probably not a single person posting here that doesn't have someone in their family with some sort of problem. I wasn't bashing you. I work in a psychiatric facility, and I deal with benzo addicts daily. Many of them aren't our normal fringe-dwellers, but decent, otherwise respectable people that started out taking their ativan and klonopin and xanax like it was prescribed, and it got out of hand. I can honestly tell you that I would much rather deal with heroin and crack addicts. Benzo addicts are a sad and pathetic lot, and my post was just meant to be cautionary, not judgmental. Hope you didn't take it the wrong way. There's nothing to be ashamed of with an anxiety disorder. It's far from a rare occurrence.

[Scientist]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
My psychiatrist has put me on paxil and along with the lorazepam the world looks rosy even tho it is a rotating ball of sh!t.

Thank you pharmaceuticals.

Best thing evaar!

I took Paxil and Lorezapam for anxiety. I thought the same good things about paxil once...for a time. Unfortunately it soon threw me into the deepest darkest depression of my life. Sometimes I could barely stand up or sit without flopping onto the floor in a ball. After a few years trying to get off of it, I eventually succeeded and the constant depression went away. The withdrawl was horrible. There were weeks of constant irritability, headaches, and a general "gross" feelings. I finally felt "normal" again within a year or so.

Paxil is nasty stuff if you ask me. Celexa and Lexapro were similar but I was smart enough to get off of them before they disabled me too much.

I never did get addicted to Lorezapam. But that might be because it never worked at all. If I took a few I'd get a little drowsy, but that's all. There was no effect on anxiety at all. Anyways, your brain will probably be more cooperative than mine, but you should know that these things can rob you of a chunk of your life if you aren't careful.

BTW, I'm not on anything anymore. What finally worked for me was a high dose of Gabitril for about half a year. It made me horribly stupid while I was on it and 10x stupider when I first got off of it. It did relieve the physical symptoms of anxiety like that uptight feeling, tense muscles and anxiety attacks. Eventually the stupidity went away and I was used enough to feeling stress free that I could better determine what activities caused the unremitting anxiety I had to deal with my entire life until that point. Get enough of sleep, eat right, keep hydrated, and most importantly kick ass. That's what did it for me. Do what you do well, put your heart into it and, if you are anything like me, you will recover.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
They are far and away the worst addicts to deal with.

Even worse than the opiate abusers? I would think opiates would be worse.

Esp the detox.. ugh.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Everything I have heard about Paxil is bad. One you will have a real hard time ejaculating and many lawsuits are in the works as it is all but impossible to come off it without getting really really ill.

You think you had problems before the drugs you are in for a surprise.

Eh, I took Paxil in the mid 90s. Never had problems coming off it.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
I regret starting this thread as any illness of the greymatter kind is looked on as a weakness and people here will always go for the throat of someone with any perceived weakness. But i was in a euphoric state of mind at the time and I probably shouldn't have pushed the post button. But I can always go away, I guess.

Without going into boring detail it all started the day I thought I was having a heart attack....

...but it wasn't a heart attack.

If you know what I'm talking about...well you know the rest of the story. If you don't know, well you don't need to worry...unless you are effected by it thru a friend or family member and even then you would not fully understand.

If anyone ever refers to me as a 'nutbar' in some future thread I will confirm it.

You had an anxiety attack. Most people have had one in their life. People do what they can to get by. Nothing to be ashamed of.

No one here is better than anyone else. No matter what they might think.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by nerd:
Don't feel bad about taking things. I've been on Serzone (Nefazodone) for about 5 years now and it's the best thing I ever done. I've been more motivated for things, sleep better, don't have mood swings, etc.

Watch out for Serzone. I hear it has caused death in a few people.

[AKcrab]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
Without going into boring detail it all started the day I thought I was having a heart attack....

...but it wasn't a heart attack.

If you know what I'm talking about...well you know the rest of the story. If you don't know, well you don't need to worry...unless you are effected by it thru a friend or family member and even then you would not fully understand.

I understand via my better half. She has exactly what you're talking about, and you're right; I don't fully understand.

It's hard for those of us around you all, too...

'What did I do?'
'What can I do to help stop this?'

The only thing that does any good at all is compassion and a willingness to listen.

She started on paxil, and it worked great for about 6 months before the panic attacks came back, but 10 times worse. She had to "go clean" for 6 weeks (which was painful) before she could try zoloft, which has been a complete success.

Good luck, and don't try to adjust your meds on your own. Listen to your doctor. When you start feeling great, it's not time to cut your dose in half.

[Zimphire]

Yeah I did that, and then got depressed again. Mine wasn't really a physical problem with depression, there was reasons I was depressed. Going off drugs, best friend leaving, GF of three years broken up, I was a mess. Depression is no fun. It's vile, morbid and takes away your lust for life.

I believe it probably has attacked everyone in their life one time or another.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Eh, I took Paxil in the mid 90s. Never had problems coming off it.

Why am I not the least bit surprised.

[BRussell]

Hey RollingBones, I'm a psychologist, and I'm convinced that panic attacks are truly the absolutely worst thing that can happen to a person. I seriously can't think of anything worse. Fortunately it's also one of the most treatable conditions. There's absolutely no reason why anyone should continue to have them.

I just hope that the psychiatrist didn't just give you the pills and then say buh-bye, because there actually are some very effective treatments that don't involve the pills. The behavioral treatments (it's called interoceptive exposure) are actually more effective than the medications. Not that there's anything wrong with the meds, but they're not mutually exclusive.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by Scientist:
I took Paxil and Lorezapam for anxiety. I thought the same good things about paxil once...for a time. Unfortunately it soon threw me into the deepest darkest depression of my life. Sometimes I could barely stand up or sit without flopping onto the floor in a ball. After a few years trying to get off of it, I eventually succeeded and the constant depression went away. The withdrawl was horrible. There were weeks of constant irritability, headaches, and a general "gross" feelings. I finally felt "normal" again within a year or so.

Paxil is nasty stuff if you ask me. Celexa and Lexapro were similar but I was smart enough to get off of them before they disabled me too much.

I never did get addicted to Lorezapam. But that might be because it never worked at all. If I took a few I'd get a little drowsy, but that's all. There was no effect on anxiety at all. Anyways, your brain will probably be more cooperative than mine, but you should know that these things can rob you of a chunk of your life if you aren't careful.

BTW, I'm not on anything anymore. What finally worked for me was a high dose of Gabitril for about half a year. It made me horribly stupid while I was on it and 10x stupider when I first got off of it. It did relieve the physical symptoms of anxiety like that uptight feeling, tense muscles and anxiety attacks. Eventually the stupidity went away and I was used enough to feeling stress free that I could better determine what activities caused the unremitting anxiety I had to deal with my entire life until that point. Get enough of sleep, eat right, keep hydrated, and most importantly kick ass. That's what did it for me. Do what you do well, put your heart into it and, if you are anything like me, you will recover.

The funny thing is these psychos…er…"psychologists" are 85% likely to give you pills no matter what. Hell, they even put you on their "endorsed" medication. Anyone keen enough will spot the propaganda littered on pamphlets in a corner or on their pens. They're drug dealers with MDs, and those things don't do a goddamn thing. I had to take that garbage 2 years ago. Lexapro I think. What a bunch of frauds. I had a "check-up" a month later, so I did a little trick on them. I improved my attitude and stopped being such a smartass for a month. Instead of taking them before I went to school, I hid it under my tongue and threw it into the sewer a block away from my house. I didn't take it once that month, and man oh man, you should have seen their faces at the psycho's office when I said I didn't take it.

Anti-depressants also lead to an increased risk of suicide.

I think these pharmaceuticals really need to be attacked for their worthless drugs.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Why am I not the least bit surprised.

That I took Paxil in the 90s for a year? So what? I am not ashamed of it.

You could actually use a year or two on it. You'd might not be as cranky and pissy acting about other people.

Everyone has their hang-ups. You are of no exception.

Coming from a homosexual, you'd think you would be a bit more considerate about irregularities that happen.

Get off your high horse SWF, you are no better than anyone else.

I promise.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
The funny thing is these psychos…er…"psychologists" are 85% likely to give you pills no matter what. Hell, they even put you on their "endorsed" medication. Anyone keen enough will spot the propaganda littered on pamphlets in a corner or on their pens. They're drug dealers with MDs, and those things don't do a goddamn thing.

While I agree, some MDs are just drug dealers, some are not. I know some that wont prescribe anything that is addictive.

I had to take that garbage 2 years ago. Lexapro I think. What a bunch of frauds. I had a "check-up" a month later, so I did a little trick on them. I improved my attitude and stopped being such a smartass for a month. Instead of taking them before I went to school, I hid it under my tongue and threw it into the sewer a block away from my house. I didn't take it once that month, and man oh man, you should have seen their faces at the psycho's office when I said I didn't take it.

It takes a few months to start working. You know that right?

Anti-depressants also lead to an increased risk of suicide.

Eh, that is highly debatable. While I have never been depressed to the point of being suicidal (I had always had hope) I knew people who WERE, and the inhibitors took care of it.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by Zimphire:

While I agree, some MDs are just drug dealers, some are not. I know some that wont prescribe anything that is addictive.

It takes a few months to start working. You know that right?

Eh, that is highly debatable. While I have never been depressed to the point of being suicidal (I had always had hope) I knew people who WERE, and the inhibitors took care of it.

I know. I was put back on it because she forgot to get more. So they decided that they should wait about a month to see if I got any results. They already had a so-called watermark from the previous usage, so I acted better without taking it.

I'm not exactly sure it's true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
I know. I was put back on it because she forgot to get more. So they decided that they should wait about a month to see if I got any results. They already had a so-called watermark from the previous usage, so I acted better without taking it.

I'm not exactly sure it's true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.

Why did they put you on it?

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Why did they put you on it?

Long story. Short version: They thought I was depressed because of family problems and put me on the pills. I stopped taking them, never got more, and was put back on them. I think I burned the rest after that trial month. Smoldering paper was never so sweet.