[PacHead]

I moved this from that other thread, so there wouldn't be any derailment, since I'm a polite guy, unlike others.

I claimed nobody had ever died from weed. Bapper said I was making things up.

So here's my cite, I'd like to see his proof, if he has any.

The number of drug deaths in the US in a typical year is as follows:

• Tobacco kills about 390,000.
  
  Alcohol kills about 80,000.
  
  Sidestream smoke from tobacco kills about 50,000.
  
  Cocaine kills about 2,200.
  
  Heroin kills about 2,000.
  
  Aspirin kills about 2,000.
  
  Marijuana kills 0. There has never been a recorded death due to marijuana at any time in US history.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/...asicfax.htm#q3

[Rolling Bones]

I'm in the jungle and I see a man in a loin cloth beating his chest.

I guess falling off a balcony doesn't count.

[sideus]

This is the part where we all start posting links that contridict each other.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...02/ixhome.html

[sideus]

http://www.iprc.indiana.edu/publicat...okescreen.html

How many deaths are caused by marijuana? A flip answer might be, "Fewer than by R. J. Reynolds, and more than O.J. Simpson was accused of."

[PacHead]

Originally posted by sideus:
This is the part where we all start posting links that contridict each other.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...02/ixhome.html

Yes, I suppose you're right. People can just post contradicting links all day long, regardless of what the topic is.

I did find the telegraph story you posted to be a bit too opinion based, and a little outrageous, such as this part:

Cannabis also contributed to the death of Dragan Radoslavjevic, 42, from Paignton, Devon. He died earlier this year after using a power tool to drill a hole in his head. An inquest in Torquay heard that he suffered from depression and relied on drugs such as cannabis and heroin.

A power tool to drill a hole in his head ? Woah....



I am not claiming cannabis is 100 % safe. Nothing is. All I am trying to claim is that it is way , way safer than alcohol, and I find it hypocritical that one is banned while the other, far more dangerous one is legal.

[Rolling Bones]

Originally posted by sideus:
This is the part where we all start posting links that contridict each other.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...02/ixhome.html

I think he meant medically (such as cancer) and not by secondary causes such as accidents or people going bonkers which they probably were in the first place and the pot just magnified it.

[Kilbey]

No threads about other members.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
No threads about other members.

Maybe a mod will change the title to "Weed never killed anybody." It won't let me.

This is just a continuation from the "accident" thread. It wouldn't have been appropriate to have petty bickering going on there, so I started a new thread.

[Zimphire]

Pac you do realize that smoking even two joints a day is like smoking cigs daily right?

You know how when you smoke out of a bowl it leaves resin behind?

It does that to your lungs too.

Smoking ANYTHING will eventually do harm to you.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Pac you do realize that smoking even two joints a day is like smoking cigs daily right?

You know how when you smoke out of a bowl it leaves resin behind?

It does that to your lungs too.

Smoking ANYTHING will eventually do harm to you.

Yes, I agree with that. In excess it is harmful.

[brapper]

Originally posted by PacHead:
So here's my cite, I'd like to see his proof, if he has any.

What you're citing there is deaths cause directly by doing the particular drug, i.e. overdosing.
I'm saying that there is a direct correlation between doing weed and increased vehicular accidents which are can be fatal. That's why driving after smoking weed is considered a DUI.

I'm alright with smoking weed, as I am with someone doing almost anything, as long as it doesn't affect other people. Smoking weed however is known to inhibit coordination and motor skills, and that for obvios reasons makes it unsafe when driving a car.

Directly, yeah maybe no one was ever killed by weed from overdosing, but indirectly you can't argue that it hasn't played a role in accidental deaths.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by brapper:
I'm alright with smoking weed, as I am with someone doing almost anything, as long as it doesn't affect other people. Smoking weed however is known to inhibit coordination and motor skills, and that for obvios reasons makes it unsafe when driving a car.

I guess we don't disagree then, because I pretty much agree with that.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by PacHead:
Yes, I agree with that. In excess it is harmful.

It's harmful even once. It's just more likely you'll get cancer in excess.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
It's harmful even once. It's just more likely you'll get cancer in excess.

Alcohol is far worse in my opinion. That's the only point I'm trying to make. I'm not trying to argue the safeness of anything, or pretend that there is no harm.

[Rolling Bones]

I have a friend but I haven't seen him in years. He moved away and we kinda lost touch. He was what one would call a pothead. From the time he got out of bed till he went back to bed he smoked pot. But he would function fairly normally, I guess. He works and all the normal stuffs.

From what I've heard he's still the same today after several decades. Still a pothead.

From what I can gather and assume I would have to say he does it to become normal..as being normal to him would be.

I have a toke and it's off to cartoonland.

I have no problems with peoples vices or pot usage.

But gawd, his lungs must look like fried steak covered in hash oil.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
But gawd, his lungs must look like fried steak covered in hash oil.

Yeah, that would be the main drawback in my opinion.

[The Godfather]

But, does it make you miserable? (the addiction to weed)

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by The Godfather:
But, does it make you miserable? (the addiction to weed)

Weed isn't like most drugs. You don't really get a physical addiction to it. It's more psychological.