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CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 09:56 AM

This has to be one of the greatest stories. Evar.

This article is from the St. Petersburg Times

Here's a little snippet I got from metalreviews.

Lane DeGregory of The St. Petersburg Times reports: As tanks geared up to trample Fallujah and American troops started circling the city, special operations officers rifled through their CD cases, searching for a sound track to spur the assault.

What would irk Iraqi insurgents more: Barking dogs or bluegrass? Screaming babies or shrieking feedback?

Heavy metal. The Army's latest weapon.

"It's not the music so much as the sound," said Ben Abel, spokesman for the Army's psychological operations command at Fort Bragg, N.C. "It's like throwing a smoke bomb. The aim is to disorient and confuse the enemy to gain a tactical advantage."

"If you can bother the enemy through the night, it degrades their ability to fight," Abel explained. "Western music is not the Iraqis' thing. So our guys have been getting really creative in finding sounds they think would make the enemy upset.

"These harassment missions work especially well in urban settings like Fallujah," he said. "The sounds just keep reverberating off the walls."

Heavy metal that tortures Iraqis' ears also can help homesick Americans. For a 19-year-old Marine who has been coiled in a tent for weeks, ready to strike, METALLICA's "Enter Sandman" might be more inspiring than any officer's pep talk.

Trust me, the full article is absolutely worth the read.
I think this is called for:

At least the soldiers have some taste in music.

historylme · Nov 24, 2004, 12:57 PM

A good read.

Sherwin · Nov 24, 2004, 01:00 PM

I think we need to send some Manowar down there. or some White Zombie.

PacHead · Nov 24, 2004, 01:01 PM

Tease 'em with the mids ! Kill 'em with da bass ! Torture 'em with da treble !

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 01:01 PM

To be honest, there is stuff far creepier or more bizarre than 'tallica and AC/DC.
I think playing some Slayer, like Reign In Blood or South of Heaven, would be far more bizarre and tormenting. Or if you wanted them to be punished, there's a fine selection of nu metal bands at your local record store.

wang_himself · Nov 24, 2004, 01:05 PM

I think they need to hear Drowning Pool, Bodies...

Might encourage morekilling and smashy of people and things

Zimphire · Nov 24, 2004, 01:12 PM

They need to play Chip Away By Jane's Addiction about 5 million times.

It sounds like Armageddon happening.

Very unnerving.

Sherwin · Nov 24, 2004, 01:15 PM

I would so love to be the PSYOPS DJ. There's just so much you could play for them!

(I've got track 4 of Pantera's Vulgar Display on at the mo)

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
They need to play Chip Away By Jane's Addiction about 5 million times.

It sounds like Armageddon happening.

Very unnerving.

A spin of South of Heaven is a hell of a lot more unnerving. Since I'm not a fan of the South oh Heaven, I'd say a couple plays of Angel of Death would drive anyone insane.
Hell, maybe some of the patriotic Iced Earth stuff would drive the bilingual terrorists mad.

typoon · Nov 24, 2004, 01:19 PM

This is great! We should all send them MORE HeavyMetal. Maybe make and Iraq Combat mix for those fighting their. Something they can use to boost spirits and annoy the Enemy.

d4nth3m4n · Nov 24, 2004, 01:19 PM

wonder if they were inspired by apocalypse now.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
I would so love to be the PSYOPS DJ. There's just so much you could play for them!

(I've got track 4 of Pantera's Vulgar Display on at the mo)

****ing Hosttttiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile!

I love that CD. Come to think of it, the sound of it is pretty annoying if you've never heard it.

Zimphire · Nov 24, 2004, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
A spin of South of Heaven is a hell of a lot more unnerving. Since I'm not a fan of the South oh Heaven, I'd say a couple plays of Angel of Death would drive anyone insane.
Hell, maybe some of the patriotic Iced Earth stuff would drive the bilingual terrorists mad.

Eh, I've heard all of that. Death Metal never really gave me the same "un-easy" feeling as that Jane's song.

Komisar · Nov 24, 2004, 01:24 PM

That was a great read thanx!

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by typoon:
This is great! We should all send them MORE HeavyMetal. Maybe make and Iraq Combat mix for those fighting their. Something they can use to boost spirits and annoy the Enemy.

Saxon�Denim & Leather
Metallica�KEA to Black Album
Slayer�SNM to SITA
Motorhead�Bastards and Ace of Spades
SOD�Speak English or Die
Rammstein�Mutter
Iced Earth�IE to Glorious Burden
Megadeth�KIMB to CTE
Judas Priest�Stained Class to Painkiller
Black Sabbath�Black Sabbath to Heavan and Hell
AC/DC�everything
Blind Guardian�everything

Anybody got an metal to add to the list. No glam, grunge, or nu stuff. And no black metal either. We don't need to punish the troops.

Rolling Bones · Nov 24, 2004, 01:28 PM

Wouldn't Anne Murray or Tom jones cranked up been more disconcerting.

I know I would have ran screaming.

Please no flaming from their respective fan clubs.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Eh, I've heard all of that. Death Metal never really gave me the same "un-easy" feeling as that Jane's song.

Actually, Slayer was thrash. Death metal has those awful grumbly lyrics. I'd like them more if the stopped riding the hats all the time. At one point, some of their stuff reminded me of Sabbath.
It's great for moshing.

PacHead · Nov 24, 2004, 01:30 PM

"Uncooperative prisoners are being exposed for prolonged periods to tracks by rock group Metallica and music from children's TV programmes Sesame Street and Barney in the hope of making them talk,

Oh no ! Not Barney ! I'll tell you anything you need to know ! Please stop !

RAILhead · Nov 24, 2004, 01:32 PM

Let's not forget about Sepultura -- or Rob Zombie, for that matter.

typoon · Nov 24, 2004, 01:34 PM

"However, Amnesty International said such tactics may constitute torture."

Sounds like being whiney to me. Why don't we just try to ask them nicely to talk. Yeah that'll work.

Sherwin · Nov 24, 2004, 01:36 PM

That'll do it.

Zimphire · Nov 24, 2004, 01:37 PM

Yeah blast Barbi Girl!

That or that song "Do you believe" or whatever it's called by Cher.

Oh man.. torture indeed.

typoon · Nov 24, 2004, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
"Uncooperative prisoners are being exposed for prolonged periods to tracks by rock group Metallica and music from children's TV programmes Sesame Street and Barney in the hope of making them talk,

Oh no ! Not Barney ! I'll tell you anything you need to know ! Please stop !

I know what you mean. I'd be talking too after listening to Barney.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yeah blast Barbi Girl!

That or that song "Do you believe" or whatever it's called by Cher.

Oh man.. torture indeed.

That's not metal�that's�that's pure evil!

Sending CDs to the troops doesn't sound like a bad idea. I'm not sure I'm in the financial situation to buy CDs though, and sending CD-Rs looks cheap. Hmm�

PacHead · Nov 24, 2004, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
That or that song "Do you believe" or whatever it's called by Cher.

Hey, I like that cher song !

If they were playing that song, and I was in Iraq, I'd probably be blasting away at terrorists at 136 BPM, while tapping my feet to that song.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 01:49 PM

So, now that we've had some fun with this awesome story (best feel good story of the month), does anyone think we can really do anything? I was sorta thinking of trying to get some contact info for shipping, etc. Maybe a website or something. I might be able to do graphics or something. I'd really want to do something.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 04:27 PM

Here's what I got so far.
Good�? Bad?

olePigeon · Nov 24, 2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:

I think we need to send some Manowar down there.

I think The Demon's Whip would be just about perfect.

olePigeon · Nov 24, 2004, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
Actually, Slayer was thrash. Death metal has those awful grumbly lyrics.

GWAR.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
GWAR.

Oh yeah, here's what I have for a color tank picture:

FulcrumPilot · Nov 24, 2004, 05:05 PM

One of these days they are going to retaliate with Celine Dion!

effgee · Nov 24, 2004, 05:17 PM

since we're being all militaristic and shit ...

as far as psychological warfare is concerned, I'm sure that some old school stuff would be far more effective than "regular" metal ...

- cypress hill, a man (during the day)
- body count, voodoo (during the night)

that ougtha do whatever trick you're trying to play ...

and now back to our regularly scheduled pacifist program ...

can't we all just get along?

edit: uh, oh ... almost forgot ... gotta drop 100.000 of these out of an airplane over enemy territory every night ...

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by effgee:
since we're being all militaristic and shit ...

as far as psychological warfare is concerned, I'm sure that some old school stuff would be far more effective than "regular" metal ...

- cypress hill, a man (during the day)
- body count, voodoo (during the night)

that ougtha do whatever trick you're trying to play ...

and now back to our regularly scheduled pacifist program ...

can't we all just get along?

Rap-metal is torture for both sides. We need something they hate and we like.

No, we can't. If they're shooting at us, the option for getting along is void.

effgee · Nov 24, 2004, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
Rap-metal is torture for both sides. ...

listen to the snippets on amazon (or better the entire song) first - it's not "rap" and/or "metal-rap". it's the lyrics - you gotta listen and be able to understand what's being said ...

The Windozer · Nov 24, 2004, 05:24 PM

Whoa. This reminds me of Apocalypse Now. -Kinda creepy.

MacNStein · Nov 24, 2004, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by The Windozer:
Whoa. This reminds me of Apocalypse Now. -Kinda creepy.

Hey, torturing them with loud music is better than killing them, no?

My recommendation: Fade to Bluegrass

http://www.thetributeto.com/fadetobluegrass/

I have the CD and it's actually better than you'd think.

olePigeon · Nov 24, 2004, 05:38 PM

Make sure the amp goes all the way up to 11! That way it'll be louder!

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Make sure the amp goes all the way up to 11! That way it'll be louder!

dodo_nutter · Nov 24, 2004, 07:21 PM

Hate to take all the fun away but don't you think blasting Enter Sandman out in Fallujah is gonna piss off the civilians too? Thought the idea was to get the 'bad guys' what ever there called and try and get the every day iraqis to think that America & friends being in their country is a good idea. Imagine there were Iraqis in America (bear with me) and they decided to blast whatever they listen too out, would piss you off.

Meh ranting done. Other than pissing the residents off sounds like a good idea, imagine going into battle with something like Black Label Society blaring out...That would psych you up!

PacHead · Nov 24, 2004, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
Hate to take all the fun away but don't you think blasting Enter Sandman out in Fallujah is gonna piss off the civilians too?

They were told to leave. Anybody who chose to stay = dumbass.

Zimphire · Nov 24, 2004, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Hey, I like that cher song !

If they were playing that song, and I was in Iraq, I'd probably be blasting away at terrorists at 136 BPM, while tapping my feet to that song.

In your pink house robe?

Zimphire · Nov 24, 2004, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:

Pffftt...

PacHead · Nov 24, 2004, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
In your pink house robe?

Damn, I was trying to keep that a secret.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 07:39 PM

So is anyone serious about that CD idea?

Sherwin · Nov 25, 2004, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
My recommendation: Fade to Bluegrass

http://www.thetributeto.com/fadetobluegrass/

I have the CD and it's actually better than you'd think.

Checked out any Hayseed Dixie doing AC/DC yet? Really rather good.

Sherwin · Nov 25, 2004, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
Hate to take all the fun away but don't you think blasting Enter Sandman out in Fallujah is gonna piss off the civilians too?

If they don't like Metallica then they deserve to be pissed off.

Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
Imagine there were Iraqis in America (bear with me) and they decided to blast whatever they listen too out, would piss you off.

Like NYC taxi drivers?

Originally posted by dodo_nutter:
Meh ranting done. Other than pissing the residents off sounds like a good idea, imagine going into battle with something like Black Label Society blaring out...That would psych you up!

Heck, just send Zakk in there with a big stick and he'll sort the problem out.

TailsToo · Nov 25, 2004, 09:27 AM

Richard Cheese!!!!!!

Nookie

typoon · Nov 25, 2004, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:
So is anyone serious about that CD idea?

I am

CreepingDeth · Nov 25, 2004, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
If they don't like Metallica then they deserve to be pissed off.

Damn straight!

Originally posted by typoon:
I am

Anyone else?

Sherwin · Nov 25, 2004, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by typoon:
I am

You'll get the RIAA taking their collective heads out of the sand and looking your way.

And I'm pretty sure that PSYOPS know where their nearest record store is.