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The Godfather · Dec 6, 2004, 09:32 AM

I had to stare away several times

I guess I failed the homophobia test.

Sure there was enough action, but it was a horrible mix of drama and flying guts, preceded with too many caucasian-kill-asian-high-five! bits. And ont top of it, it was boring. How could I give this movie any rating?

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 6, 2004, 09:34 AM

I have noticed the same thing, people who are uncomfortable with homosexuality hate the movie, ones who don't care less seem to like it for the most part.

paully dub · Dec 6, 2004, 09:43 AM

Can it be worse than my girlfriend making me watch Queer As Folk?

The Godfather · Dec 6, 2004, 09:44 AM

I should stick with going to the theater 3 times a year and no more, so that I will watch stuff that I like.

I am glad that the ticket was free this time, but I feel that I should have gone to the SpongeBob SquarePants screen instead.

Eug Wanker · Dec 6, 2004, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
I have noticed the same thing, people who are uncomfortable with homosexuality hate the movie, ones who don't care less seem to like it for the most part.

My impression is that most people, regardless of sexual orientation, hate the movie.

And what I've seen from the trailers certainly doesn't impress. It'd definitely not high up on my list of movies to see...

Sherwin · Dec 6, 2004, 10:02 AM

I avoid films which have that really tough Irish fella Farrell in them anyways, on account of him being a bit of a turd.

wdlove · Dec 6, 2004, 10:10 AM

That's too bad, thought that it was going to be a good movie. Does it include some historical references?

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 6, 2004, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
My impression is that most people, regardless of sexual orientation, hate the movie.

So far I have heard gay people say it is a "wonderful gay love story". So I guess one market will like it.

TheBadgerHunter · Dec 6, 2004, 10:15 AM

What if I'm a hobophobe?

The Godfather · Dec 6, 2004, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
What if I'm a hobophobe?

Then don't watch the movie and read the book.

Sherwin · Dec 6, 2004, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
What if I'm a hobophobe?

Hire "Bikini Car Wash" instead.

Eug Wanker · Dec 6, 2004, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
So far I have heard gay people say it is a "wonderful gay love story". So I guess one market will like it.

Well, at 15%, at least you can take heart that it's gotten more positive reviews than the supposed 5ish % of the population who is gay.

I thought this blurb was amusing though:

"Alexander often seems a couple of heartbeats away from turning into a gay porno film."

Super Nova · Dec 6, 2004, 10:27 AM

I think that there are too many of these movies that are getting progressively worse. Gladiator started it all and it was a great movie.... Then there was Troy, which I didn't see but I heard was just OK and only a few months later Alexander, which I heard was horrible, regardless of the homosexual scenes.

The homosexual scenes weren't just the director and writers' gay fantasy, homosexuality was appealing in those times, every man had a wife and a gay lover.....Times have obviously changed.

All in all, movies have to be diverse and not pound in the same themes until they are ruined....

SuperNova

TheBadgerHunter · Dec 6, 2004, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
So far I have heard gay people say it is a "wonderful gay love story". So I guess one market will like it.

Heterophobe.

Millennium · Dec 6, 2004, 10:47 AM

Looking away from the love scenes in Alexander doesn't mean you're a homophobe. It just means you hate badly-directed overacting with no chemistry whatsoever between the actors and way too much eyeliner. If the scenes had been well-done, then you might be a homophobe for looking away, but not as they currently stand.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 6, 2004, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Heterophobe.

I said I don't like watching straight people kiss?

Or are you just being clever?

TheBadgerHunter · Dec 6, 2004, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
I said I don't like watching straight people kiss?

Or are you just being clever?

No, just mocking your efforts to label people as homophobes.

Sherwin · Dec 6, 2004, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
No, just mocking your efforts to label people as homophobes.

-phobia: An intense, abnormal, or illogical fear of a specified thing.

Groups which brand anyone who doesn't like them or their practices as Xphobic must be missing the point that it's possible to dislike something without having to have an intense, abnormal or illogical fear of it. Dislike appears to have become confused with fear.

hayesk · Dec 6, 2004, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Sherwin:

-phobia: An intense, abnormal, or illogical fear of a specified thing.

Groups which brand anyone who doesn't like them or their practices as Xphobic must be missing the point that it's possible to dislike something without having to have an intense, abnormal or illogical fear of it. Dislike appears to have become confused with fear.

It depends. It is possible to fear something without realizing it. But in the context of not wanting to see dudes kissing on a movie screen, you are correct.

Xeo · Dec 6, 2004, 11:34 AM

What feeling are you avoiding by turning away? I don't get it.

Eug Wanker · Dec 6, 2004, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
No, just mocking your efforts to label people as homophobes.

A quick glance tells me he doesn't use that term even once in this thread.

Blue Flame · Dec 6, 2004, 12:00 PM

just because you don't want to see two guys going at it, doesn't mean you're a homophobe

lots of people are into S&M -- doesn't mean I want to watch that either.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 6, 2004, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
No, just mocking your efforts to label people as homophobes.

Something tells me with that post you are getting labeled as an idiot as I never even implied that anyone was.

Smooth.

koogz · Dec 6, 2004, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by The Godfather:
I had to stare away several times I guess I failed the homophobia test.

Sure there was enough action, but it was a horrible mix of drama and flying guts, preceded with too many caucasian-kill-asian-high-five! bits. And ont top of it, it was boring. How could I give this movie any rating?

There was a test? Crap...
All I got from this thread was, it must be a gay-ra-ra movie. Tally-ho, no thanks.

PacHead · Dec 6, 2004, 12:20 PM

From what I hear, it's not just homophobes who don't like the movie.

It sounds like every person, regardless of their orientation (gay, lez, straight, bi, tri, quad, pedo, sheep lovers) should stay away from this movie, 'cause it is supposedly a terrible, piece of crap, boring movie.

turtle777 · Dec 6, 2004, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
My impression is that most people, regardless of sexual orientation, hate the movie.

And what I've seen from the trailers certainly doesn't impress. It'd definitely not high up on my list of movies to see...

That movie sucked, even if you totally disregard the homosexual scenes.

I think it's the worst movie in 2004. It sucked so bad, that I didn't even drink my second beer that I brought, because it didn't want to waste in on that movie.

-t

Super Nova · Dec 6, 2004, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by turtle777:

That movie sucked, even if you totally disregard the homosexual scenes.

I think it's the worst movie in 2004. It sucked so bad, that I didn't even drink my second beer that I brought, because it didn't want to waste in on that movie.

-t

yahoooooooo!!!!

SuperNova

Super Nova · Dec 6, 2004, 01:09 PM

[edit] double post

nredman · Dec 6, 2004, 04:04 PM

haven't seen it but how can you think of anything homosexual when she is in the movie.

turtle777 · Dec 6, 2004, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by nredman:
haven't seen it but how can you think of anything homosexual when she is in the movie.

Go and watch the movie, then we talk.

-t

The Godfather · Dec 6, 2004, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by nredman:
haven't seen it but how can you think of anything homosexual when she is in the movie.

Not homosexual, but incestual.

CreepingDeth · Dec 6, 2004, 05:03 PM

Let's start out with a deductive score system.

Homosexual scene that is poorly directed -10 (Sorry, I really don't want to see two guys doin stuff)
Bad acting -20
Pitiful battles -20
Oliver Stone -40

Total: 10/100

Calling someone a homophobe because they don't want to see the guys having fun is ridiculous. There are many sexual activities I'd turn away from if I was forced to see them, such as S&M, BDSM, mature, guy on guy, MMF, hentai, etc. That stuff sucks.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 6, 2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by CreepingDeth:

Calling someone a homophobe because they don't want to see the guys having fun is ridiculous.

The funny thing is nobody in this thread has said that yet, wonder why everyone is getting so defensive and assuming it was said

TheBadgerHunter · Dec 6, 2004, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
The funny thing is nobody in this thread has said that yet, wonder why everyone is getting so defensive and assuming it was said

Read thread titles. You might learn something now and then.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 6, 2004, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Read thread titles. You might learn something now and then.

This is coming from the guy who said you are "mocking my labeling people Homophobic" when I never even implied it.

Funny how you ignored that post

nredman · Dec 6, 2004, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by turtle777:
Go and watch the movie, then we talk.

-t

thats okay - i'll pass

fireside · Dec 6, 2004, 06:33 PM

i heard alexander had blond hair, but everyone else has brown hair. how did alexander get blond hair?

koogz · Dec 6, 2004, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by fireside:
i heard alexander had blond hair, but everyone else has brown hair. how did alexander get blond hair?

He was adopted by two gay men who worked as hairdressers.

Super Nova · 10:33 PM

Originally posted by koogz:
He was adopted by two gay men who worked as hairdressers.

nice

SuperNova

Zimphire · Dec 6, 2004, 09:09 PM

The man love didn't bother me. The scenes with Angelina and Alexanders wife more than made up for it.

I just thought the movie stunk.

koogz · Dec 6, 2004, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
The man love didn't bother me. The scenes with Angelina and Alexanders wife more than made up for it.

I just thought the movie stunk.

Lesbian love scene? I'm there when it comes to DVD (Netflix)

cold_reality · 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
What feeling are you avoiding by turning away? I don't get it.

Disgust?
What I don't get is that if I look away cause I think two guys kissin is gross...I'm branded a homophobe... what should I do? Stare?

TheBadgerHunter · Dec 6, 2004, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
This is coming from the guy who said you are "mocking my labeling people Homophobic" when I never even implied it.

Funny how you ignored that post

Hmm, if I hadn't been reading your posts on here for years I might buy that.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 6, 2004, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Hmm, if I hadn't been reading your posts on here for years I might buy that.

Believe everyone else here to said the same.

Sucker.

Super Nova · Dec 7, 2004, 05:00 PM

if you're a homophobe....

Don't watch hockey????

SuperNova

TheBadgerHunter · Dec 7, 2004, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Believe everyone else here to said the same.

Sucker.

turtle777 · Dec 7, 2004, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by koogz:
Lesbian love scene? I'm there when it comes to DVD (Netflix)

You're gonna be disappointed...

-t

nonhuman · Dec 7, 2004, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:

-phobia: An intense, abnormal, or illogical fear of a specified thing.

Groups which brand anyone who doesn't like them or their practices as Xphobic must be missing the point that it's possible to dislike something without having to have an intense, abnormal or illogical fear of it. Dislike appears to have become confused with fear.

A phobia doesn't always refer to a fear. Case in point: hydrophobia. It is not a fear of water. It is also not some new word coined by an overly defensive group, quite the opposite really. It's a rather archaic term for rabies. By the same token homophobia doesn't necessarily refer to a fear. The difference in meaning from the roots (in this case) is caused by a phenomenon known as semantic bleaching which, along with many other similar phenomena, cause languages to constantly undergo linguistic change.

Words mean what they are commonly understood to mean, not what you think they should mean based on a purely etymological analysis.

brink · Dec 7, 2004, 07:33 PM

Everything I've read about this movie makes it sound like a colossal stink bomb.

qnxde · Dec 7, 2004, 07:34 PM

I don't care if straight guys look away when 2 guys get it on, I can't stand to watch hetero love scenes either, it's disgusting and unnatural