[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

"This week Jensen, the chief financial officer of the software giant, went out on a limb to predict that PS3 and Xbox 2 will be able offer the most impressive, immersive and realistic gaming ever seen. (Nintendo's Revolution didn't even get a mention.) Speaking to the attentive audience at the Credit Suisse First Boston Annual Technology Conference, mystic Jensen went on to say, "Imagine the characters in a football game expressing real emotions. That's the kind of thing that's going to be possible with the next generation of technology".

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/def...sectionid=1584

[Captain Obvious]

Pfff.....
I'll give you realistic.

[Busemann]

PS3 will be special indeed;

[ManOfSteal]

[Komisar]

Most immersive gameplay ever

Nah, but the ps3 graphics and xbox 2 graphics (that is madden right?) are absolutely amazing

[olePigeon]

I can make realistic images on an 30MHz Amiga using Lightwave. What's so special about these?

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by olePigeon:
I can make realistic images on an 30MHz Amiga using Lightwave. What's so special about these?

Live rendering?

[fireside]

if thats the graphics that you see when you're playing (IE, not a cutscene), then they'll fall under the "too good for their own good" category.

[SafariX]

Originally posted by fireside:
if thats the graphics that you see when you're playing (IE, not a cutscene), then they'll fall under the "too good for their own good" category.

I wish i had the love for games I used to. I just can't "get into" them anymore. Someone posted something similar the other day that summed up exactly how I feel about games.

[Fothb]

I have heard rumors of claims purportedly coming from Sony execs that state that the PS3 will handle Unreal 3 level graphics. While I'd imagine that they'd be rendered without any of the AA/AF features of computer video cards and only at 640x480, it'd still be quite a feat. Take a look at the Unreal 3 engine screenshots:

Unreal 3 engine screenshots

[SafariX]

I'm just hoping that the developers take HDTV into account when developing their new games. I LOVE playing 720 or 1080i games on my Xbox+HD.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Live rendering?

I highly doubt those are live shots from ingame. They're probably movies playing on it.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by olePigeon:
I highly doubt those are live shots from ingame. They're probably movies playing on it.

Why would they do that? I mean if it is a movie the PS1 could show something that good. I am sure that they are showing off LIVE rendering.

[ajprice]

There's a general rule of thumb with console graphics that the pre rendered graphic quality of the first machine will be the in game quality of the next, this is roughly what happened from PS1 to PS2 and it looks like its going to be at least that from PS2 / Xbox to PS3 / Xbox 2.

If you don't believe me, look at a Gran Turismo 1 or 2 cutscene and compare it to GT3 A spec in game. Then look at the preview gallery/photo mode shots of GT4, which is hi res rendering on a PS2, and compare them to the yellow Porsche pic...

In other words, Gran Turismo 5 graphics on PS3 will be GT4 photo mode quality in real time .

[Super Nova]

PS3 and XBOX 2 gameplay will be amazing; hands down. The questions are will the XBOX2 be any more compact and will the controllers be any better than the nintendo DS (i just wanted to add that it to show how big of a disappointment that was....)

If anyone has actual screenshots of the system and controllers.....

SuperNova

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Why would they do that? I mean if it is a movie the PS1 could show something that good. I am sure that they are showing off LIVE rendering.

Be nifty if they are.

[fireside]

Originally posted by Super Nova:
PS3 and XBOX 2 gameplay will be amazing; hands down. The questions are will the XBOX2 be any more compact and will the controllers be any better than the nintendo DS (i just wanted to add that it to show how big of a disappointment that was....)

If anyone has actual screenshots of the system and controllers.....

SuperNova

gameplay != graphics

[Super Nova]

Originally posted by fireside:
gameplay != graphics

you're right, to a certain extent. Although graphics don't determine gameplay, they do play a big role....

SuperNova

[Komisar]

100% true!

[olePigeon]

Two great examples:

1) Dark Castle: Ok, so it's a little dated. But the game is still fun.
2) Splinter Cell: Nifty graphics, boring as sh*t.

[Komisar]

better example

Getaway: People said it would be amazing cause the graphics and gameplay where realistic... but who wants a game to be too realistic... when i played that game i was like... wha in the hell.. i didn't by a game to follow traffic regulations. IMHO that game was horrible... but the graphics made it entertaining to a certain extent

[fireside]

Originally posted by Super Nova:
you're right, to a certain extent. Although graphics don't determine gameplay, they do play a big role....

SuperNova

they don't play any role.

[MaxPower]

Thread jack!

Originally posted by Busemann:
PS3 will be special indeed;

That photo is from the G-Cans Project website. A real facility.

Debunked here. Incredible images though!
http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/37486

From the thread:

"The G-Cans Project is a massive project, begun 12 years ago, to build infrastructure for preventing overflow of the major rivers and waterways spidering the city (A serious problem for Tokyo during rainy-season and typhoon season). The underground waterway is the largest in the world and sports five 32m diameter, 65m deep concrete containment silos which are connected by 64 kilometers of tunnel sitting 50 meters beneath the surface. The whole system is powered by 14000 horsepower turbines which can pump 200 tons of water a second into the large outlying edogawa river."

[Busemann]

Originally posted by MaxPower:
Thread jack!



That photo is from the G-Cans Project website. A real facility.

Debunked here. Incredible images though!
http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/37486

From the thread:

"The G-Cans Project is a massive project, begun 12 years ago, to build infrastructure for preventing overflow of the major rivers and waterways spidering the city (A serious problem for Tokyo during rainy-season and typhoon season). The underground waterway is the largest in the world and sports five 32m diameter, 65m deep concrete containment silos which are connected by 64 kilometers of tunnel sitting 50 meters beneath the surface. The whole system is powered by 14000 horsepower turbines which can pump 200 tons of water a second into the large outlying edogawa river."

I know! But it's pretty incredible to see how close art and reality has come since it could pass as being an in-game shot

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by fireside:
gameplay != graphics

Well duh, are you saying we should be happy with Super Nintendo as long as new games are fun?

[fireside]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Well duh, are you saying we should be happy with Super Nintendo as long as new games are fun?

what

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by fireside:
what

Poor graphics but fun.

[Jim Paradise]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Poor graphics but fun.

Why not? Perhaps I'm too much of an oldschooler, but having fun is always more important than good graphics.

[scaught]

fun gameplay is waaaaaaay more important than graphics.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Jim Paradise:
Why not? Perhaps I'm too much of an oldschooler, but having fun is always more important than good graphics.

Something wrong with good graphics AND fun? Or does it have to be one or the other?

[Sarc]

Originally posted by Busemann:
I know! But it's pretty incredible to see how close art and reality has come since it could pass as being an in-game shot

I was thinking the same thig. Looking at most of the links provided by that website, I just could't tell if some of the pictures where real or rendered.

This is creepy.


Anyway, that tunnel system is amazing, anyone got some information -in english- about it ?

[macaddict0001]

Severed hand of skywalker:
Sure of course you can have fun and graphics, but what sucks is when too much time is spent on the graphics and not enough time is spent on the gameplay.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by macaddict0001:
Severed hand of skywalker:
Sure of course you can have fun and graphics, but what sucks is when too much time is spent on the graphics and not enough time is spent on the gameplay.

I see bad graphics and bad game more often than good graphics bad game.

Also, Crimson skies, Jak, Ratchet and Clank, Zelda and more looked incredible and were fun as hell.

[macaddict0001]

That's true, but nothing sucks worse than a game that looks awesome on the box but then you play it for a while and realize that its subpar.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by macaddict0001:
That's true, but nothing sucks worse than a game that looks awesome on the box but then you play it for a while and realize that its subpar.

Ya like RE3.

[macaddict0001]

I haven't played resident evil three.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally posted by SafariX:


I wish i had the love for games I used to. I just can't "get into" them anymore. Someone posted something similar the other day that summed up exactly how I feel about games.

I agree. I have had a PS2 and XBox in the past three years. Sold them both. Bought a used Intellivision and one of those controllers you plug into your TV that have old Nintendo games built in. I have played those more than I ever played my PS2 or XBox.

[mishap]

I have rediscovered my love for the PSOne.

This generation of games have been pretty boring for me--a few good ones, but mostley... meh.

[MindFad]

I'll believe that level of depth-of-field and live motion blur when I see it, but that's close to what to expect, unless these are stress shots that just completely push what the system can do and give the impression that all games will look like that, when in reality those are about the limits with those kinds of models and textures. More shaders, new effects, huge textures, amazing models, and long-ass production times: that's your next generation. Hopefully the games are fun.

Looking good, though. I'm looking forward to seeing what Nintendo shows off.

[Apple Pro Underwear]

Originally posted by ManOfSteal:

I love this game!

not many people knew "VS." mode is actually a mode where it turns into a side scrolling fighter against the crowd.

if you win, your player gets to go on a crack binge with 8 hookers and a goat

[Jim Paradise]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Something wrong with good graphics AND fun? Or does it have to be one or the other?

No, but it seems there's the mentality that good graphics make for better games. That's all I'm disagreeing with.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally posted by Jim Paradise:
No, but it seems there's the mentality that good graphics make for better games. That's all I'm disagreeing with.

I don't think people have that mentality anymore, I can't think of any game I have ever bought because it looked good.

People are just excited because this PICTURE is all they have to to go on, you don't know if it is a good game or not till reviews come out.

[Super Nova]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
I don't think people have that mentality anymore, I can't think of any game I have ever bought because it looked good.

People are just excited because this PICTURE is all they have to to go on, you don't know if it is a good game or not till reviews come out.

xactly, although, from past versions, at least I know that all Madden games have been great.....

SuperNova

[Komisar]

Dude your soo cool using X's instead of ex , supposibly it's the n x t big thing since pokèmon...

[Super Nova]

Originally posted by Komisar:
Dude your soo cool using X's instead of ex , supposibly it's the n x t big thing since pokèmon...

wow, ur funny?

SuperNova

[Komisar]

I knew i saw some driving around in this, and i knew it was you! http://www.blazing.de/fun/VWvortex.jpg

[dillerX]

Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
I love this game!

not many people knew "VS." mode is actually a mode where it turns into a side scrolling fighter against the crowd.

if you win, your player gets to go on a crack binge with 8 hookers and a goat

quoted. just because.

that, and i almost died.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Komisar:
I knew i saw some driving around in this, and i knew it was you! http://www.blazing.de/fun/VWvortex.jpg

oh ya that's hot

[Lancer409]

Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
I love this game!

not many people knew "VS." mode is actually a mode where it turns into a side scrolling fighter against the crowd.

if you win, your player gets to go on a crack binge with 8 hookers and a goat

lol ... wonder who's idea it was to add 8 hookers .. the goat's more than enough!

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

SPOnG can today exclusively blow the lid on Electronic Arts’ next Need for Speed game, detailing the company’s thinking on the leading franchise update for the first time.

The series will ditch the Underground moniker, with the new game carrying the title Need for Speed: Most Wanted. The information, leaked to us last week, states that the multi-platform offering will ship across the world in late 2005.

http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=8229