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Apple will make an ipod killer?
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1 gig flash mini for 149.99 - 199.99 sounds good to me. i personally don't like the idea of an iphone, im fine with my motorola.
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The day Apple makes a phone is the day I finally decide to get one. Until then I'm not about to deal with all the crap in the market these days.
That said I bet Apple could totally kick Apple's butt with this one!
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If Apple makes its own iPod killer it won't be cheap. They will have to make up for lost profits fro the iPod.
Of course, I don't think a flash iPod will be an iPod killer.
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Dell already killed the iPod mini:
Twice as many songs
25% longer battery life
and it costs less, too.
Behold, the Dell Pocket DJ
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Looks like it was made for Darth Vader...
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Dell already killed the iPod mini:
Twice as many songs
25% longer battery life
and it costs less, too.
Behold, the Dell Pocket DJ
And based on its sales numbers and market share, it is working. 
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Dell already killed the iPod mini:
Twice as many songs
25% longer battery life
and it costs less, too.
Behold, the Dell Pocket DJ
People choosing to by an iPod mini have already decided to go down the 'style over substance' direction (numerous articles predicted the failure of the mini due to the regular iPod offering better VFM), that Dell with it's stuck on plastic chrome buttons just looks tacky (and another 'thumb roller' interface whohoo, innovation!). Since Apple went for the smooth 'click wheel' (with almost no visual buttons) no other player has come near in the aesthetics stakes.
It is going to take some enormous shift to dislodge the iPod. What other player supports it's own group of 3rd party accessory manufacturers? I don't see BOSE et al making speaker stands, or companies making rubbery 'gloves' for any Dell Mp3 players.
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Originally posted by Mafia:
1 gig flash mini for 149.99 - 199.99 sounds good to me. i personally don't like the idea of an iphone, im fine with my motorola.
149.99 - 199.99 for a single gig? ..hmm... i think ill wait. if im going to spen 150-200 bucks i would rather a 4 gig HD ipod.
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Well I think there is something everyone is not thinking about. I may be wrong on some of this but here it goes. The iPod for the extra 50 gives you a calendar, notes, contacts, games to play, a slightly bigger screen, more peripherals, and it weighs almost an once less. Not to mention that it is not hideous and trying to look like its competitor, but because the parts are so cheap it can't. The iPod can act almost like a PDA I don't think the dell can. The DJ's capacity is also based on a 64 bit 4 min WMA. I think the sound quality in something like that would be ass. I have 850 128-bit mp3 songs with just under 700 MB of free space left on my mini, and that is plenty of room. So what if at the 128 bit-rate the extra gig would allow me to put maybe 200-250 more songs on it. 1000 songs and all the stuff that comes with the mini or regular iPod is enough and just as much of a VFM I think as the DJ.
Oh I almost forgot the books on tape for the iPod are nice for a lot of people as well.
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If Apple makes an iPhone, my respect for them will go completely downhill. They should stick to ****ing computers The iPod is bad enough...I mean, it's a great product, but it has started the trend of moving away from computers. Refocus yourselves, Apple!
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Originally posted by tavilach:
If Apple makes an iPhone, my respect for them will go completely downhill. They should stick to ****ing computers The iPod is bad enough...I mean, it's a great product, but it has started the trend of moving away from computers. Refocus yourselves, Apple!
i think what has happened with computers is that they are reaching the climax.
making them faster is easy, get IBM to make the G5 go faster and work out architecture every once in awhile when new tech comes.
making software is what they are doing to make macs more attractive. that's always constantly improving.
The iPod is beyond that. They are making true pimpness and innovating a device that is actually wanted! If they can make a better model of an existing device such as a phone... go for it. I already love my iPod.
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
New Flashness!
should have seen that coming.
MoS's "new ____ness" is to Demonhoods "____inated" 
BTW, I dont mind apple dabbling into phones .. as a concept ..but if they suck or are overpriced ... i hope they kill it on the drawing board..
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
New Flashness!
dude. just stop.
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Dell already killed the iPod mini:
Twice as many songs
You forgot the asterisk and the tiny explanation, in fine print, that they're encoding the songs for the Dell at half the bitrate of the songs for the iPod in order to get these numbers.
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Originally posted by Mediaman_12:
People choosing to by an iPod mini have already decided to go down the 'usability over quantitative features' direction
Fixed.™
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Originally posted by FulcrumPilot:
Looks like it was made for Darth Vader...
Looks like A** to me!
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Originally posted by Superchicken:
The day Apple makes a phone is the day I finally decide to get one. Until then I'm not about to deal with all the crap in the market these days.
That said I bet Apple could totally kick Apple's butt with this one!
SE knows how to make a phone and, at least the T6XX series, works with OS X flawlessly.
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Originally posted by tavilach:
If Apple makes an iPhone, my respect for them will go completely downhill. They should stick to ****ing computers The iPod is bad enough.
The iPod is pushing Apple right now. It's a great device and it brings people to the fold. What's wrong with that?
Oh, I forgot you're too young to remember the dark days for Apple.
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Originally posted by Randman:
The iPod is pushing Apple right now. It's a great device and it brings people to the fold. What's wrong with that?
Oh, I forgot you're too young to remember the dark days for Apple.
Agreed. I don't have an iPod ... but I have zero problem with Apple diversifying its product line where it sees an opportunity. Apple does a good job at one thing: make THE kick-@ss product for whatever market its undertaking. In my old age I have learned: 20% more for a superior product is f#cking WORTH IT in the long run.
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Originally posted by scaught:
dude. just stop.
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Flash? Sounds kinda kinky to me.
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
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hey. at least you put some thought into that.
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Originally posted by Randman:
The iPod is pushing Apple right now. It's a great device and it brings people to the fold. What's wrong with that?
Oh, I forgot you're too young to remember the dark days for Apple.
It's funny that just before (or during the early part of) the dark days, Apple was selling more computers than at any other time in their history - more than 3 million per year. I think they are catching up to that number now. It makes you wonder where all that negative press really came from. I can see criticizing their financials (which were cr*p until Gil Amelio fixed them), but people repeated the same old BS "Apple is losing customers", "there aren't as many Mac users anymore", etc.
I agree, the iPod is doing great things for Apple. I heard someone at work say yesterday "I want an iMac now" because of her fondness for the iPod. I would never figure her as a Mac user before.
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We just had a guy in dorm buy an iBook because he's seen the rest of us Mac heads with our PowerBooks/iBooks and iPods. He thinks both are sweet so he went out and bought an iBook. I think the iPod is great for Apple, just so long as they don't pull away from the Mac I think it's great. I doubt Steve will ever give up on the Mac. It's his baby.
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