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Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 9, 2004, 08:22 PM

South Korea's Samsung Corporation has won the contract to build the world's tallest building, the Burj Tower in Dubai.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4081885.stm

ManOfSteal · Dec 9, 2004, 08:50 PM

Wow...Trump got Trumped.

scottiB · Dec 9, 2004, 09:06 PM

Samsung won the $306m(�160m) deal, after an 11-month bid process.

Only $306m? That's less than new American sports stadiums (stadia?).

olePigeon · Dec 9, 2004, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by scottiB:
Only $306m? That's less than new American sports stadiums (stadia?).

Americans don't get payed 15� an hour either.

PacHead · Dec 9, 2004, 09:34 PM

Too bad about 25% of the population in that country cannot count as high as that building is in total floors. If it wasn't for the oil, they'd be contracting somebody to make mud huts.

MaxPower2k3 · Dec 9, 2004, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by scottiB:
Only $306m? That's less than new American sports stadiums (stadia?).

stadii

that's one mighty tall building... got the Freedom Tower beat by almost a thousand feet. good stuff.

Lancer409 · Dec 9, 2004, 09:45 PM

amazing how they jumped about 1000 feet from the current tallest (taipei 101) ...

tower of babel anyone?

also .. i find it interesting ... if you read into the ammount of floorspace ...

there's a ratio between how high you build, and how much useable floorsplace and price per square foot spent for it.

anyways ... as a person who loves high rise architecture ... we are in for some interesting times. Then again ... I hear Shanghai is sinking because of the weight of all the new skyscrapers it's been putting up. =P

Super Nova · Dec 9, 2004, 10:26 PM

yes, Shanghai is sinking, but I don't think they're going to tear down skyscrapers just because of that.....

SuperNova

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 9, 2004, 10:30 PM

How tall is the freedom towers going to be?

ManOfSteal · Dec 9, 2004, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
How tall is the freedom towers going to be?

1,776 ft.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 9, 2004, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
1,776 ft.

Ouch so it is going to be beat by 1000 feet before it is even built? Damn.

Since when did Samsung start buildings anyway?

scottiB · Dec 9, 2004, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Americans don't get payed 15� an hour either.

Perusing this page, I don't think Dubaians do, either.

A construction administrative assistant makes $4,500 CAD/month---tax free.

spiky_dog · Dec 9, 2004, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Ouch so it is going to be beat by 1000 feet before it is even built? Damn.

Since when did Samsung start buildings anyway?

just like mitsubishi and other companies you think might be just involved in cars or electronics, samsung is a many-headed beast. http://www.shi.samsung.co.kr/eng/ is probably up to the construction.

Kilbey · Dec 9, 2004, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Ouch so it is going to be beat by 1000 feet before it is even built? Damn.

Since when did Samsung start buildings anyway?

Flew right by you didn't it?

It really wasn't that subtle either.

macroy · Dec 10, 2004, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Ouch so it is going to be beat by 1000 feet before it is even built? Damn.

Since when did Samsung start buildings anyway?

Its getting annoying how everyone is starting to build the next "tallest building". Isn't Shanghai going to have the tallest in a few years? I heard they started planning on it right after Taipei 101 started construction...

Looks like this "title" may be an annual thing after awhile. As the planning for one starts while another is being built.

Maybe they should start with area coverage rather than height. I like to see a building 5 miles wide...

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Dec 10, 2004, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by macroy:
Its getting annoying how everyone is starting to build the next "tallest building".

Why?

Mastrap · Dec 10, 2004, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Too bad about 25% of the population in that country cannot count as high as that building is in total floors.

That's no way to talk about Arkansas and you know it.

PacHead · Dec 10, 2004, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Mastrap:
That's no way to talk about Arkansas and you know it.

The difference betweeen my statement and yours is, mine is fact, yours is not.

Skip Breakfast · Dec 10, 2004, 11:18 AM

The sounds like the George Carlin bit where he talks about wars being nothing more than a d1cksize competition.

t6hawk · Dec 10, 2004, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Too bad about 25% of the population in that country cannot count as high as that building is in total floors. If it wasn't for the oil, they'd be contracting somebody to make mud huts.

Do some research. Only 7% of the revenues for that country are from oil. Dubai and the UAE has a lot of money and only a tiny fraction is oil related.

the_glassman · Dec 10, 2004, 12:36 PM

Somebody should build the deepest underground building, now that would be an accomplishment. Wouldn't be an eyesore, would be more efficient to heat, cool and wouldn't be a terrorists target.

PacHead · Dec 10, 2004, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by t6hawk:
Do some research. Only 7% of the revenues for that country are from oil. Dubai and the UAE has a lot of money and only a tiny fraction is oil related.

The UAE has an open economy with a high per capita income and a sizable annual trade surplus. Its wealth is based on oil and gas output (about 33% of GDP), and the fortunes of the economy fluctuate with the prices of those commodities.

CIA WORLDBOOK

I'm also right about the illiteracy:

definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 77.9%

Wiskedjak · Dec 10, 2004, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
The difference betweeen my statement and yours is, mine is fact, yours is not.

Care to back up that "fact"?

PacHead · Dec 10, 2004, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Care to back up that "fact"?

Look at the post above yours.

Zimphire · Dec 10, 2004, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Ouch so it is going to be beat by 1000 feet before it is even built? Damn.

Going to be beat? It wasn't in a competition to be the tallest. Ever.

Wiskedjak · Dec 10, 2004, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Look at the post above yours.

I'm speaking of the statement that 25% of Dubai's population cannot count to 160. A statement which you claimed to be fact.

Wiskedjak · Dec 10, 2004, 12:52 PM

double post

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Going to be beat? It wasn't in a competition to be the tallest. Ever.

"first building block had been set in place at Ground Zero in New York, with a promise that this will be the tallest building in the world, eventually."

PacHead · Dec 10, 2004, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
I'm speaking of the statement that 25% of Dubai's population cannot count to 160. A statement which you claimed to be fact.

Only 77.9 % can read or write.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Only 77.9 % can read or write.

"U.S. students lagging behind in math"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/12....ap/index.html

Zimphire · 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
"first building block had been set in place at Ground Zero in New York, with a promise that this will be the tallest building in the world, eventually."

got any links to that?

The reason I say this is, there were other TALLER versions being offered. And they were denied.

My point was, the point of the tower wasn't to be the tallest. They weren't in any race.

In this tower's case however, yes, it's purpose is to be the tallest.

That isn't the purpose of the WTC replacement.

Zimphire · Dec 10, 2004, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
"U.S. students lagging behind in math"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/12....ap/index.html

"The latest scores from the Program for International Student Assessment also show that white U.S. students scored above average, while blacks and Hispanics scored below it. That achievement gap has become the focus of federal education policy."

BTW your intentions with this thread is clear from the start.

Wiskedjak · Dec 10, 2004, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Only 77.9 % can read or write.

Counting has nothing to do with reading and writing. My 3yr old can easily count to ten and can almost count to 20 and she can neither read nor write. Once she realizes that counting to 100 is simply counting to ten, ten times, she'll easily be able to count to 100. I fully believe that she will be able to count to 100 before she is able to read or write.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

BTW your intentions with this thread is clear from the start.

Are you being insecure about your country or your religion?

BTW the forums don't revolve around you as much as you would like to think they are.

Zimphire · Dec 10, 2004, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Are you being insecure about your country or your religion?

Insecure? No. Insecurity would be me posting negatives about other countries or a country in particular to make mine look good.

Remind you of anyone?

BTW the forums don't revolve around you as much as you would like to think they are.

Revolve around me? When did I say it was about me?

Still waiting for that link.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
My point was, the point of the tower wasn't to be the tallest. They weren't in any race.
That isn't the purpose of the WTC replacement.

Sick of being proved wrong yet?

"Today is indeed a momentous day," said Gov. George Pataki at the ceremony to break ground for what is designed to be the world's tallest skyscraper, which will stand where the World Trade Center once stood."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast...one/index.html

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
"The latest scores from the Program for International Student Assessment also show that white U.S. students scored above average, while blacks and Hispanics scored below it. That achievement gap has become the focus of federal education policy."

And what percentage of the US is made up of Black and hispanics? Or don't they count?

Zimphire · Dec 10, 2004, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
Sick of being proved wrong yet?

Being proved wrong? I never said it wasn't said. I just asked for a link.

You crack me up sometimes.

"Today is indeed a momentous day," said Gov. George Pataki at the ceremony to break ground for what is designed to be the world's tallest skyscraper, which will stand where the World Trade Center once stood."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast...one/index.html

SWF, SWF, SWF... that is not the purpose of the building.

AGAIN there was MUCH TALLER models that were rejected.

At the time it was being thought up, it would have been the world's tallest.

That was just an afterthought.

Now this one is being built, do you think they are going to scrap the idea and make it taller?

OF COURSE NOT!

Because that isn't the purpose.

If they were in a "tallest" race, then indeed that is what would happen.

Capisca?

Zimphire · Dec 10, 2004, 01:55 PM

The funniest part of the article.

"The CN Tower in Toronto, which Canada claims as the world's tallest free-standing structure, is 1,815 feet."

I guess Canada loses too!!11~!

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 02:44 PM

So aside from this American Penis Envy, this building is rather nicely designed as it looks futuristic and not just a big block.

Zimphire · Dec 10, 2004, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
So aside from this American Penis Envy,

What the...

You were the only one that brought up America in the first place.

Get a grip on reality bub.

wdlove · Dec 10, 2004, 03:22 PM

The building has an odd looking shape. There will probably be another one taller down the road.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by wdlove:
There will probably be another one taller down the road.

Nope, this is the last tallest building that will ever be built.

olePigeon · Dec 10, 2004, 03:57 PM

If you're on the top level, I bet it'll sway a good 5 feet. Better take your anti-seasick pills.

PacHead · Dec 10, 2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
"U.S. students lagging behind in math"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/12....ap/index.html

And what the hell does that have to do with anything ? You are the dumbest troll ever to grace these forums.

Wisedjack and I were talking about the illiteracy rate in a certain country (UAE), and some dumb as crap canadian enters and posts some random, nothing to do with the topic, link about math in the US.

Go figure.

PacHead · Dec 10, 2004, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Counting has nothing to do with reading and writing. My 3yr old can easily count to ten and can almost count to 20 and she can neither read nor write. Once she realizes that counting to 100 is simply counting to ten, ten times, she'll easily be able to count to 100. I fully believe that she will be able to count to 100 before she is able to read or write.

I wouldn't trust somebody who can't read the word "dog" or "cat" on a piece of paper, or be able to know what 2 + 2 equals, to know how to accurately count to 160.

And your 3 year old is obviously already smarter than many illiterates across the globe.

PacHead · Dec 10, 2004, 04:53 PM

Ooops......

Super Nova · Dec 10, 2004, 04:57 PM

SuperNova

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Dec 10, 2004, 05:02 PM

I think it is always a bit of a cheat the way the place an antenna on the top floor and count that as the hight. They should only count the last FLOOR.

Peter · Dec 10, 2004, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Super Nova:

SuperNova

DEAR MRS SUPERNOVA. PLEASE DO NOT STEAL MY BANDWIDTH.
THANKS
PETER.

np really. just being an attention whore