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ThinkInsane · Dec 10, 2004, 04:15 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science...rilla.wake.ap/

Story is actually kind of sad...

CD Hanks · Dec 10, 2004, 04:18 PM

Holy crap. Sad yet fascinating...

brapper · Dec 10, 2004, 04:44 PM

'tis interesting indeed.

but I feel as though I should go hug a gorilla now..

olePigeon · Dec 10, 2004, 04:46 PM

Elephants do the same thing. In fact, elephants will even go back many, many years later and fondle the bones from the dead elephants. Nifty.

ManOfSteal · Dec 10, 2004, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Elephants do the same thing. In fact, elephants will even go back many, many years later and fondle the bones from the dead elephants. Nifty.

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Cubeoid · Dec 10, 2004, 10:17 PM

Frogalistically!

moonmonkey · Dec 11, 2004, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Elephants do the same thing. In fact, elephants will even go back many, many years later and fondle the bones from the dead elephants. Nifty.

if I was an elephant I would do stuff like that.

Cody Dawg · Dec 11, 2004, 08:16 AM

Thanks for the link, ThinkInsane.

It was a very moving article.

We must all appreciate and love animals more.

If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. - James Herriot

DeathToWindows · Dec 11, 2004, 10:50 AM

interesting... there has got to be a psych paper here

wdlove · Dec 11, 2004, 11:02 AM

A sad but moving article. A very good thing on part of the zoo keepers for allowing the other gorillas to grieve.

scaught · Dec 11, 2004, 12:04 PM

i think its beautiful. other creatures not so far up the food chain seem perfectly capable of feeling and expressing these more "complex" emotions.

OB1 · Dec 11, 2004, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by moonmonkey:
if I was an elephant I would do stuff like that.

But you're not. You're a moonmonkey. So the question remains, what ARE you going to do?

ManOfSteal · Dec 11, 2004, 01:18 PM

This ape mourns as well...

Sherwin · Dec 11, 2004, 01:28 PM

Nowt new. I've been kept up many a night by the sound of cows mourning (i.e. yelling their heads off) the loss of one of their herd.
It's one of the reasons why I'm veggie.

Xeo · Dec 11, 2004, 01:31 PM

I agree that it's both interesting and sad.

Cody Dawg · Dec 11, 2004, 04:50 PM

Nowt new. I've been kept up many a night by the sound of cows mourning (i.e. yelling their heads off) the loss of one of their herd.
It's one of the reasons why I'm veggie.

Oh, gosh, you're gonna send me back into vegetarianism with a vengeance. I know how you feel.

When I was growing up on the farm we would have to (eventually) separate the cows from their calves. The calves were being sold or put in separate fields, etc.

You would not believe how hard those momma cows wanted to get back to their calves and the calves back to their momma cows. Both the mothers and the calves would moo and moo back and forth and hang their heads over the fences and strain to see each other.

No one can tell me that a cow isn't a sentient being. They are. They're way below gorillas on the consciousness scale. It makes me sad even thinking about it now.

I have a feeling that we Americans (and perhaps humans in general) are meat eaters because it is a sterile process to eat it: We go to the store and buy it. That's it. No killing or butchering is involved...no emotions are involved. If people knew more or were exposed to more experiences with respect to eating animals then they wouldn't eat it.

Interesting to note that gorillas are mostly vegetarians, also.