[mishap]

Have you seen this yet? fom nintendo? works on the SP too..

Uses SD for storage.

"Obviously, it's not designed to play games, but the unit can play back movies for up to 4 hours at the Game Boy Advance SP's native resolution (352 by 288 pixels) as well as play back MP3s with the screen off for up to 15 hours on a charge."

check out the Gizmodo article: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-...yer-027712.php

[Peter]

psp does this without paying extra.

[mdc]

not for 4 hours.

[Superchicken]

That's awesome how much storage does it have though? It'd be pretty cool if you had a Microdrive in one of those though

[mdc]

said it uses SD cards for storage, so i guess whatever size SD cards go up to. you can get a 1gig SD card for around $80

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

The PSP plays it for 4-6 hours actually. I love the way the DS fans made fun of the fact that the PSP did this, now they are happy they can pay more so the DS can do the same on a tiny single screen.

"But we thought the PSP wasn’t your competition, big N! Despite having said that they don’t care about the PSP and its wacky non-gaming features, Nintendo has announced that it plans to add music and video playback to the Nintendo DS with an adapter that will accept memory cards (but what kind of memory cards?) The adapter will apparently play MP3 audio files and MPEG-4 video files. It will sell for 5,000Y, which is around $50. So, let’s see - $149 for the DS plus $50 for the adapter, and you’ve got PSP prices. Ponder ye."

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000843023810/

[Peter]

Originally posted by mdc:
not for 4 hours.

[Superchicken]

Yes but with the DS you don't have to pay for a memory stick, and you can use any content you want not just movie on UMD.

Besides not everyone will want to use this just some people.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Superchicken:
Yes but with the DS you don't have to pay for a memory stick, and you can use any content you want not just movie on UMD.

Besides not everyone will want to use this just some people.

You have ZERO clue as to what you are talking about.

This DS adapter costs $50 and lets you play movies OFF A MEMORY CARD (that you have to buy separately again) and plays on ONE of the two 4:3 ratio screens.

The PSP actually comes with a memory card, a program to convert movie files into MP4's and lets you play them off the memory card not just the UMD. Not to mention it has a widescreen which is much better for watching movies.

So in the end you pay more for the DS and don't get as good of an experience.

[Lancer409]

how does an sp movie player that works with ds make this a ds vs psp thread?


anyways
that being said, he mentions game linker? something that can write roms onto one card.


pirating aside, i have a bunch of games on my gba sp, mostly rpg's, but i dont bring it out that much anymore. when i get stuck at a spot, i dont have anything else to play since i dont like carrying out a bunch of other games. Anyways, yeah, any recommendations on a good one? (preferably a linker where one can swap the sd card out?)

*not going to duck since it isnt meant for pirating)

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Lancer409:
how does an sp movie player that works with ds make this a ds vs psp thread?

because 2 days ago GameBoy fans were saying how stupid the idea that the PSP could play video's and MP3's were. Naturally now that it is available for gameboy it is the best thing ever.

[itai195]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
because 2 days ago GameBoy fans were saying how stupid the idea that the PSP could play video's and MP3's were. Naturally now that it is available for gameboy it is the best thing ever.

Yeah, I was gonna point this out too. I think it's a stupid feature on both systems though.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by itai195:
Yeah, I was gonna point this out too. I think it's a stupid feature on both systems though.

I don't think there is anything wrong with it for the PSP as it is built in and doesn't make the unit any bigger or more expensive because of it. The DS one is stupid though as it is a big ugly add on hack.

[goMac]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
So in the end you pay more for the DS and don't get as good of an experience.

Gameboy + Movie adaptor = $130
PSP = $200 for shorter life
DS + Movie Adaptor = $200

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by goMac:
Gameboy + Movie adaptor = $130
PSP = $200 for shorter life
DS + Movie Adaptor = $200

Really? Where does it say how long the battery lasts with the DS and the movie adapter?

You want to watch movies on that dinkey little non-widescreen?

[goMac]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Really? Where does it say how long the battery lasts with the DS and the movie adapter?

You want to watch movies on that dinkey little non-widescreen?

.....

Look, the Nintendo solution is better because not everyone wants to watch movies on their game device. Instead of forcing consumer to pay for features they don't want, Nintendo is letting consumers choose what they want to pay for. It's a far better solution than Sony forcing you to pay for anything. Not to mention it doesn't use Sony Memory Sticks, which to put it lightly, suck.

Flash memory also takes far less power then Sony's UMD system. The power needed to spin that disc is very significant. I would bet it is the reason PSP battery life sucks.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by goMac:
.....

Look, the Nintendo solution is better because not everyone wants to watch movies on their game device. Instead of forcing consumer to pay for features they don't want, Nintendo is letting consumers choose what they want to pay for. It's a far better solution than Sony forcing you to pay for anything. Not to mention it doesn't use Sony Memory Sticks, which to put it lightly, suck.

Flash memory also takes far less power then Sony's UMD system. The power needed to spin that disc is very significant. I would bet it is the reason PSP battery life sucks.

Wait a sec, you just listed that the DS with adapter is $200 yet the PSP comes with it for the same price. But in the end the screen isn't widescreen on the DS.

As for UMD the battery lasts from 4-6 hours (2 or 3 movies) off a disk but the movies also play right off the memory card. Other than they "suck" what is so bad about memory sticks?

[goMac]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Wait a sec, you just listed that the DS with adapter is $200 yet the PSP comes with it for the same price. But in the end the screen isn't widescreen on the DS.

As for UMD the battery lasts from 4-6 hours (2 or 3 movies) off a disk but the movies also play right off the memory card. Other than they "suck" what is so bad about memory sticks?

How does that work? The memory card is not nearly enough capacity to hold a movie from UMD.

And the DS is built as a game device with dual screens. People more interested in doing games are going to buy it. The only games on PSP are puzzle games and Mah Jong. Therefore the screen isn't going to be built for showing movies, the screens are going to be more geared towards games. In the same vein I could say that the PSP doesn't have dual screens so its not geared towards games as much (cause dual screens really don't help with movies obviously). However, the capability is still there for movies.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by goMac:
How does that work? The memory card is not nearly enough capacity to hold a movie from UMD.\

Smaller screen/rez with 1 gig cards can hold plenty.

[Destonius]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
You have ZERO clue as to what you are talking about.

This DS adapter costs $50 and lets you play movies OFF A MEMORY CARD (that you have to buy separately again) and plays on ONE of the two 4:3 ratio screens.

The PSP actually comes with a memory card, a program to convert movie files into MP4's and lets you play them off the memory card not just the UMD. Not to mention it has a widescreen which is much better for watching movies.

So in the end you pay more for the DS and don't get as good of an experience.

Umm... you should go check the price of Memory Stick Duo before making a statement like this. For the price of 1G Memory Stick Duo, you can get DS, this adopter plus 1G SD with tax. And a game or two. (Not that I care about watching videos on either PSP or DS.)
Plus, you can't watch anything you have recorded with PSX and other Sony products. Whatever happened to the idea of Memory Stick working across Sony products!?

The best feature of this adopter is the name "Play-yan" and the name which is totally absurd and silly. Ask anyone Japanese and they'll laugh their brains off. It's a joke from Nintendo mocking Sony.

[goMac]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Smaller screen/rez with 1 gig cards can hold plenty.

Do you know how expensive a 1 gig memory stick is?

At least the DS doesn't use moving parts at ALL ANYWHERE making battery life longer.

[mdc]

Originally posted by goMac:
How does that work? The memory card is not nearly enough capacity to hold a movie from UMD.

And the DS is built as a game device with dual screens. People more interested in doing games are going to buy it. The only games on PSP are puzzle games and Mah Jong. Therefore the screen isn't going to be built for showing movies, the screens are going to be more geared towards games. In the same vein I could say that the PSP doesn't have dual screens so its not geared towards games as much (cause dual screens really don't help with movies obviously). However, the capability is still there for movies.

i don't want to jump into yet another ds. vs. psp argument, but come on. what are you talking about that the only games for psp right now are puzzle games and mah jong?
darkstalkers, ridge racer, armored core?

that's like saying because the ds has pico chat and ping pals it is a glorified instant messenger. just because it has two screens does not automatically make it better, or that "people more interested in doing games are going to buy it."

i think if anything non-knowing people are going to buy the psp because of the sony name on it.

my laptop screen was made for displaying mac os. does that mean it is not good for watching movies or playing games on it? and i think movies on the psp would be rather cool at 16:9. i really doubt i would sit and watch movies on it over my 15" powerbook, but you get the idea.

both handhelds have the ability for games and now movies. choose one, choose two. who cares if someone else does not like the one you choose, as long as you are happy with it. at the end of the day it is all about what you do with it and if it makes it worth the money you spent on it.

live and let live. enough of this mine is better than yours. jeez

p.s. all of this post is not aimed at you, but everyone.

[goMac]

Originally posted by mdc:
live and let live. enough of this mine is better than yours. jeez

For neutrality's sake, I don't own either. My last handheld was a Game Boy color.

Honestly, owning a Palm Pilot with a nice big color widescreen I don't find myself watching movies on it much, if ever.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by goMac:
Do you know how expensive a 1 gig memory stick is?

At least the DS doesn't use moving parts at ALL ANYWHERE making battery life longer.

Fine, use whatever size you want. And memory sticks have no moving parts.

[goMac]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Fine, use whatever size you want. And memory sticks have no moving parts.

UMD has moving parts. Thats the point. Yes, you can cache the movie onto memory, but you need a lot of extra money to do that. Otherwise the UMD is going to be spinning the whole time, which is a really really bad thing.

[Super Mario]

People, stop defending Nintendo! I've been jumping around in their stupid games for over 25 years! Where did it get me? Nowhere. I'm still f*cking fat and the graphics they use to render me are still f*cking lame!

I'm not taking it anymore. I'm removing these ridiculous dungarees and shaving this moustache. Enough already with the fat Italian stereotype! Those racist Japanese can stuff it! You want a stereotype? I'm going to get lean, muscular and tanned. I'm going to buy an Armani suit and classy leather shoes. Then I'm going to get a PSP because if there's anything an Italian wants it's football and sports cars. Viva Fifa and viva ancora Gran Turismo!

[Luca Rescigno]

Well, this might be kind of cool. I have a GBA SP coming in the mail, and I already have a 256 MB SD card in my PDA that I'm not really using, so if I were to buy this memory card reader I'd be all set to go. MP3 player, game machine, portable movie/photo viewer all in one.

I might have to get a bigger memory card now... oh, and how are you supposed to transfer files to the SD card? Do I have to use Palm's HotSync and use my PDA as if it's a card reader? Because that tends to be super slow. Guess I'll also have to get a USB 2.0 SD card reader.

Boy, this all adds up even when I realize that I already have a GBA SP and a memory card. I hope this thing comes with a USB cable... I can't tell if it does or not.

[Lancer409]

Originally posted by Super Mario:
People, stop defending Nintendo! I've been jumping around in their stupid games for over 25 years! Where did it get me? Nowhere. I'm still f*cking fat and the graphics they use to render me are still f*cking lame!

I'm not taking it anymore. I'm removing these ridiculous dungarees and shaving this moustache. Enough already with the fat Italian stereotype! Those racist Japanese can stuff it! You want a stereotype? I'm going to get lean, muscular and tanned. I'm going to buy an Armani suit and classy leather shoes. Then I'm going to get a PSP because if there's anything an Italian wants it's football and sports cars. Viva Fifa and viva ancora Gran Turismo!

c3po .. is that you? ... haha as a quality mitsubishi evolution vehicle, i would like to protest Gran Turismo. They underpay the pit staff, the maintainance crews, and dont put techron in our gas tanks!




alright .. all jokes aside, this is getting silly .. grow up .. we're all adults (and mature apple users if you arent 18+ yet) here...

i gotta say this. the machines are built with different philosophies.

i like the ds's innovativeness (not a word? so what). to be honest, i thought i'd never go all apple since i'm a pc gamer. turns out ... every game i've played (including half life 2) felt cookie cutter'ish. sure better graphics ... cool physics engine ... zero point gravity gun (the blue one .. woot) ... but .. nothing really new.


the ds may be a stop gap product to steal some of the psp's thunder. some speculate that when the next game boy comes out, the ds will die (like the virtua boy). i dont know if that's true or not (i dont plan to buy a ds) but i like how the ds is innovative ... it's unique .. and it's styli - touchpad is something that ... used properly .. will change portable gaming.

that being said-
i will never need a psp for it's movie/music mode ...

the specs are impressive, the screen is gorgeous, and the overall design is beautiful .. the ds is fugly compared to it. but the games are going to be cookie cutterish .. mostly rehash ps2 games. besides specs, it is no more innovative/creative than anything else. it ... doesnt break new ground or bring anything new to gaming ... which is why i might not buy another pc ... no innovative game ... they all follow a mold.


they're both good machines. psp fanboys (and girls) will buy psp's.

ds fanboys (and girls) will buy ds'.

YOU WILL NOT FIND IT POSSIBLE TO CONVERT THE OTHER SIDE -- QUIT WHILE YOU'RE STILL AHEAD AND WE ARENT OBSCENELY IRRITATED!!!

oh.. and happy gaming =)

my co worker lives alone and bought two ds' ... just in case someone comes over or he goes out and someone wants to play with him ... that's a hardcore gamer.

upon hearing that he spent money on TWO ds' ... i said "what... no psp for you?" .. his response?

i'll probly buy one or two of those too...

more people like that .. and nintendo and sony will have a very good year.

[awaspaas]

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

The point is Nintendo would never have released first the DS if the PSP wasn't coming. And they also would not have released this media adapter but they are getting scared because even though they keep telling people what they want it turns out people really do want to watch movies and listen to MP3's on their gaming system.

[mishap]

Originally posted by awaspaas:
old image posted by awaspaas

this was funny a few days ago, but thanks for participating in a discussion that has nothing to do with the PSP vs. DS. btw, why is the image so horribly re-compressed?

anyway, I dont care about the PSP/DS--this thing is going to work on my current GBA SP!

options are good--now i dont need to buy a first generation PSP (I can wait for some good games to be released.)

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by mishap:
this was funny a few days ago, but thanks for participating in a discussion that has nothing to do with the PSP vs. DS. btw, why is the image so horribly re-compressed?

It doesn't? Because a week ago DS fanboys were saying the idea of Video and MP3's were stupid, not suddenly it is cool. The only reason this was released by Nintendo is because they are scared of the PSP.

But go ahead and talk about image compression if you want to discredit the point of the image.

[JHromadka]

Originally posted by itai195:
Yeah, I was gonna point this out too. I think it's a stupid feature on both systems though.

[itai195]

Originally posted by goMac:
UMD has moving parts. Thats the point. Yes, you can cache the movie onto memory, but you need a lot of extra money to do that. Otherwise the UMD is going to be spinning the whole time, which is a really really bad thing.

I'm pretty sure it's nothing compared to the power sucked up by the display. After all, minidisk players have excellent battery life using essentially the same media.

In the end, I don't think anybody is going to care about this feature. There's been crap like this for portables ever since the old Sega Game Gear TV tuner, which nobody bought. People buy these things to play games.

As for PSP only having card/puzzle games, you forgot about Hot Shots Golf!

And don't make me post screenshots of Ridge Racer for the PSP and DS side by side...

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by itai195:
In the end, I don't think anybody is going to care about this feature. There's been crap like this for portables ever since the old Sega Game Gear TV tuner, which nobody bought. People buy these things to play games.

Remember people did say the same thing about the PS2's DVD drive and it was a huge plus for many people and it helped push the system. Not to mention they said the same about XBOX live.

[itai195]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Remember people did say the same thing about the PS2's DVD drive and it was a huge plus for many people and it helped push the system. Not to mention they said the same about XBOX live.

But the PS2 and Xbox used standard media. Nobody is going to buy UMD movies that will only play on the PSP. Compressing movies and copying to a memory stick is not a very attractive option either, given the cost of memory sticks. Someday this might be a cool feature but its time has not come. It might be okay if it's possible to rent UMDs. The much more important feature on both handhelds is the built in wifi.

[goMac]

My Palm plays any QuickTime supported format and I don't even watch movies on it.

[awaspaas]

Originally posted by mishap:
this was funny a few days ago, but thanks for participating in a discussion that has nothing to do with the PSP vs. DS. btw, why is the image so horribly re-compressed?

anyway, I dont care about the PSP/DS--this thing is going to work on my current GBA SP!

options are good--now i dont need to buy a first generation PSP (I can wait for some good games to be released.)

I just thought it was funny, I didn't know it was already posted - I guess 4 days is a long time on the internet. As for the recompression, you'd have to ask the website I stole it from!

[Super Mario]

Super Mario says if you don't like the option don't use it. Games with mpeg4 cut scenes will work on the PSP but not on DS. DS will have small games and dog stroking. PSP has awesome screen, better graphics, better sound, FIFA, Gran Turismo, better grip, better synching with computers.

[torsoboy]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
The point is Nintendo would never have released first the DS if the PSP wasn't coming. And they also would not have released this media adapter but they are getting scared because even though they keep telling people what they want it turns out people really do want to watch movies and listen to MP3's on their gaming system.

I have never heard such a "fanboy" before. You are totally obsessed with the PSP it seems.

Anyway, I don't think the DS came out with this because the PSP plays videos; like someone else said, there have been add-ons like this for ages. In asia they get tons of add-ons that never make it to america. Personally, I don't think the ability to play movies on a tiny screen (PSP and DS have tiny screens, don't give me that crap about the "wide screen" on the PSP. ooohhh!! a couple inches "wide"! a video system to die for!) are going to attract anyone. When would you ever watch a movie on something like that? especially when you have to buy your movies again just to watch them smaller than you can on a TV?

And for the record, not one "DS fanboy" in this forum have said that it is "best thing ever". Get off your high-horse.

[Luca Rescigno]

Also remember that it's compatible with the GBA SP as well. Combine it with that system and it's a much lower overall cost, since the SP is half the price of the DS. For the millions of people who already own GBA SPs, this is an attractive add-on.

[Hawkeye_a]

Movie/music playback dosent really matter....to me anyway. (And i reckon it dosent to most videogamers either...it just matters to the nerds who try to comphensate for a lack of a real life imo (the same pl who boast about the closk speeds of the Pentium 4s)) ..it's true and you know it.

it's nice to have expandibility and options since not EVERYONE wants the same thing. Where the PSP forces GAMERS to buy functionality they will probably never use (movies, music,etc), NDS left the door open for developers to create those functions, giving gamers(and others) the options of buying them.

About that oh so hilarious image with the 3 PSPs and 1DS.....last i heard:
NDS worldwide sales: 2million (approx... 2.8 by year's end)
PSP worldwide sales: <.5million
So i think that picure was taken in a nerd's basements, with his friends, who have nohing better to do for the holidays than play PSP wireless in their basements, 3 feet away from each other.

And ummm "Disgruntled Head of C-3PO" (DHOC).... my penis is bigger than yours ...beat that !! hopefully the bigger PSP screen will help you comphensate though....really.

Cheers, ad happy new year guys

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Hawkeye_a:
Movie/music playback dosent really matter....to me anyway. (And i reckon it dosent to most videogamers either...it just matters to the nerds who try to comphensate for a lack of a real life imo (the same pl who boast about the closk speeds of the Pentium 4s)) ..it's true and you know it.

it's nice to have expandibility and options since not EVERYONE wants the same thing. Where the PSP forces GAMERS to buy functionality they will probably never use (movies, music,etc), NDS left the door open for developers to create those functions, giving gamers(and others) the options of buying them.

About that oh so hilarious image with the 3 PSPs and 1DS.....last i heard:
NDS worldwide sales: 2million (approx... 2.8 by year's end)
PSP worldwide sales: <.5million
So i think that picure was taken in a nerd's basements, with his friends, who have nohing better to do for the holidays than play PSP wireless in their basements, 3 feet away from each other

Problem:
"Movie/music playback dosent really matter....to me anyway. (And i reckon it dosent to most videogamers either...it just matters to the nerds who try to comphensate for a lack of a real life imo"

Ya and people don't want DVD playback on the PS2 or Xbox either.

"NDS worldwide sales: 2million (approx... 2.8 by year's end)
PSP worldwide sales: <.5million"

And the fact that the PSP came out much later than the DS is sold ONLY in Japan so far and Sony said they couldn't make enough by years end isn't an important thing to keep in mind now is it? But it works much better for the DS if you ignore those facts.

[osxpinot]

Is this how Sony is going to steal the iPod market?

[goMac]

Originally posted by Super Mario:
Super Mario says if you don't like the option don't use it. Games with mpeg4 cut scenes will work on the PSP but not on DS. DS will have small games and dog stroking. PSP has awesome screen, better graphics, better sound, FIFA, Gran Turismo, better grip, better synching with computers.

You do realize at that resolution and screen size, realtime rendered cut scenes will look just as good as pre-rendered ones... and take up less space...

[goMac]

I actually played Super Mario DS for the first time. The graphics were very crisp, which was surprising considering I had looked at the massively blown up screen shots online. When you reduce it to a screen that small it looks just as sharp as my Gamecube on a TV. The touch screen works great at emulating the joystick control of the N64. The small touch I really liked was the detached main screen. The main screen was at a different angle than the controls which meant I could tilt it up and look straight at it, and hold the controls at a different angle. This made things a lot more comfortable. Sound was also very good and I had no problem hearing it. I played for about 5 hours straight and the battery never died. I don't know what the battery was at, but it wasn't charged fully when I started playing. Overall, I think PSP will have trouble competing with the control scheme. The lower touchscreen was a little large, but made controlling very exact. Ridge Racer also runs very nicely btw. I may buy one when Four Swords DS comes out. That will be a fun game to play wirelessly with my friends.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

This is what really sums it up for me on the DS. The ultra Nintendo fanboy site of the universe reviewed Ridge Racer DS which is also available for the PSP

http://planetgamecube.com/reviews.cf...ile&amp;id=567

First of all the game looks like absolute crap, like super nintendo or at best N64. No graphics are not everything but holding it next to the PSP version makes it look like a joke:






The size difference is also huge. All the information put on the second screen on the DS is actually more useful and easier to read on the PSP version as you don't have to shift your eyes 2 inches down and adjust to another angle.

The selling point of the DS is supposed to be the "revolutionary" second screen with touch controls. In this launch title game which is supposed to show off the system the second screen is used as a steering wheel??? It also works like crap and does not enhance the user experience at all but hinders it:

"Touch screen steering does not work as well as we all thought it would.

Sure, it looked promising from the first screenshots. Using the touch screen to steer your car seemed like a really cool idea, since it would make a suitable replacement for the analog stick the DS doesn't have. Unfortunately, this is not the case at all. The two touch screen steering options both have their own set of problems. The first choice, appropriately called Hard Play, uses the stylus. To go straight, you either do not touch the screen, or touch the stylus against the dead center of the screen's x-axis. If you move to the left or right just the slightest bit, you will turn in that direction. If you reset your stylus off-center, you will turn as severely to the side in proportion to how far from center you missed. Dragging the stylus back and forth happens a lot, since there are a lot of twisty sections, but since you really don't have a solid reference point for where the center is, you will find that when you think you've returned to center, you are in fact off to the side, and therefore are not going straight. On top of that, the button mapping is a little dumb, in where you must hit X for gas and B for brake, which translates to up and down on the D-Pad side. This means you can't press both buttons at the same time without accidently shifting (A to shift up, Y to shift down), a must for expert drifting."

[goMac]

Dude... What the crap... Why would you play ridge racer with the touch pad? Thats stupid. It's not even on by default. And when you're playing on screens that small you can't tell the difference between the DS and the PSP.

The touch pad works well with some games. Ridge Racer is not one of them. That doesn't mean the touchpad is crap. The touchpad is so far the best way for FPS and games like Mario 64.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by goMac:
The touch pad works well with some games. Ridge Racer is not one of them. That doesn't mean the touchpad is crap. The touchpad is so far the best way for FPS and games like Mario 64.

It is only better because it is making up for the non analog controller. Show me any game where the second screen is actually a benefit and not a trend.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by goMac:
And when you're playing on screens that small you can't tell the difference between the DS and the PSP.

The screens above are the actual size and I can see a HUGE difference. The PSP screen is not small at all.