[scottiB]

AppleInsider chimes in.

[BrunoBruin]

Originally posted by scottiB:
To further the upsale, I wonder if Apple will reintroduce a 17" monitor (1440x900) for $499 or so (though the existing monitors would need to drop in price for this not to be out-of-whack). Expensive considering the competition, but that's Apple.

Wasn't there a rumor in the past few weeks that Apple was planning to introduce a new 17-inch display, the same widescreen panel as the iMac...but NOT matching the aluminum casing of the larger displays? And possibly as early as January? That would fit perfectly.

[paully dub]

Why isn't there more talk of the new iPod speakers? iPods totally ruuuuuuuuule!

Actually given the specs of the darn thing I'm almost there- almost. I'm sure it'll look nice, anyway.

[ambush]

1.25 G4 / 256 MB of RAM

Rock on

I want it shipped with a GeForce 2 MX!!

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

I still don't totally get the point of this thing. I mean if you pay $500 for the unit you don't have a monitor, so at the best you spend about $100 for some ghetto 17" CRT. That is $600. Why not spend another $200 on an eMac that will have better specs?

Even if you get this thing and want to put it with an LCD you pretty much have a really crappy iMac and save a couple hundred bucks.

And don't tell me you can use an existing monitor as not everyone has those laying about.

I think this unit will be something you can hook up to your TV and use as a multimedia centre for iTunes and PVR/DVD playback.

[Hash]

Originally posted by ambush:
1.25 G4 / 256 MB of RAM

Rock on

I want it shipped with a GeForce 2 MX!!

In 1995 I used to work as freelance DTP graphic artist using LC 630 with Motorola 33mhz chip with 12mb of RAM, 350 mb hard disk and I made a lot of money on it, drawing in Illustrator 7, using Aldus Pagemaker, Adobe Photoshop 4 and so on. I now have upgraded BW G4 650 mhz, 3 hard disks, 640 mb of RAM, Radeon 7000, combo drive.


G4 1.25 Ghz with any AGP card will represent huge jump in speed and performance for me. The price is incredible and it will much faster than my current hardware.

I am sold!

[f1000]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
I think this unit will be something you can hook up to your TV and use as a multimedia centre for iTunes and PVR/DVD playback.

Makes perfect sense to me. I hope Apple introduces a consumer RAID solution as well.

[ambush]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
I think this unit will be something you can hook up to your TV and use as a multimedia centre for iTunes and PVR/DVD playback.

That'd be severe ownage.

I'd like to see it sit next to my Xbox.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by ambush:
That'd be severe ownage.

I'd like to see it sit next to my Xbox.

Well even at that why buy it over the existing units that do that for years? Steve has said many times that he doesn't want to merge TV and computers.

[Sherwin]

Originally posted by spatterson:
Thats British english genius.

Ummm... That's "English" English, thanks.

On the 'puter, this will be a good thing. Many a time I've wanted an extra cheapo screenless Mac box to do low-priority server-type stuff on (without the expense of an xServe). I don't care about the speed so I'll get one or two as long as they're not brushed aluminium.

[paully dub]

Probelm is, it can't very well compete with another of Apple's product line. Apple has far to much invested in success of the iMac or Powermac line to drop a little headless 1.7 gb beast into the fray, no?

[Sherwin]

Originally posted by paully dub:
Probelm is, it can't very well compete with another of Apple's product line. Apple has far to much invested in success of the iMac or Powermac line to drop a little headless 1.7 gb beast into the fray, no?

I see it replacing the eMac for domestic purchasers - maybe they'll keep the eMac for education sales and pimp the newbie for domestics? With the whole PC world going TFT, they've got to pitch a cheaper TFT-capable Mac - and buying your own cheapo TFT to add to a headless cheap Mac is going to be the cheapest way to do it.

(cheap appears to be the key-word)

[gumby5647]

Originally posted by Big Mac:
I hate to throw a wet blanket on the festivities, but I must remind everyone that we're on the verge of 2005, and 1.25GHz is pathetic for any desktop other than the eMac. If there is a new Cube, and it is to be driven by that processor, then we can expect it to be put on ice yet a second time. Let's get realistic: You cannot find a Celeron desktop that's clocked lower than 2.4GHz. The G4 should be relegated to the eMac and iBook. I love the Cube as much as the next person, but I hope this rumor is false or only partially correct.

dude, you have to start somewhere with proc. speed. You have to start low so that you can grow....something Apple obviously did not take into account with the G5 intro.

Starting at 1.25Ghz now, leaves the door open for updates every six months.

1.25GHz Jan
1.33GHz Aug.
1.42GHz Jan. 06
1.5 or 1.67GHz Aug. 06

etc, etc, etc.

Don't paint yourself into a corner like they did with the G5

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
I still don't totally get the point of this thing. I mean if you pay $500 for the unit you don't have a monitor, so at the best you spend about $100 for some ghetto 17" CRT. That is $600. Why not spend another $200 on an eMac that will have better specs?

Even if you get this thing and want to put it with an LCD you pretty much have a really crappy iMac and save a couple hundred bucks.

And don't tell me you can use an existing monitor as not everyone has those laying about.

I think this unit will be something you can hook up to your TV and use as a multimedia centre for iTunes and PVR/DVD playback.

Because eMacs suck. The screens are mediocre, and they are huge.

And if you already have a nice 17" LCD, there's no point spending the extra coin to get another LCD with an iMac.

The whole reason I went the Cube route (other than the fact it's a Cube) is because I can't stand eMacs, and I didn't want to spend the coin on a 20" iMac (until later).

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Because eMacs suck. The screens are mediocre, and they are huge.

And if you already have a nice 17" LCD, there's no point spending the extra coin to get another LCD with an iMac.

The whole reason I went the Cube route (other than the fact it's a Cube) is because I can't stand eMacs, and I didn't want to spend the coin on a 20" iMac (until later).

Ok so what you are saying is this "worse specs than the emac" is going to sell and be well received by people who already have a cheap CRT laying about because it is better than an emac cheap CRT.

[euphras]

The new Mac is said to be incredibly small and will be housed in a flat enclosure with a height similar to the 1.73 inches of Apple's Xserve. Its size benefits will include the ability to stand the Mac on its side or put it below a display or monitor.

Doesn´t sound like a new Cube to me. When the description is correct, we´ll see the resurrection of the LC, the Low Cost Mac..


Go, have a look here

[funkboy]

A G4 is underpowered. I don't see it selling well because:

* the G5 is what has really turned Windows users' heads
* 1.25 GHz has a much slower speed than anything in the PC world right now

However, I do know of many people who say, "I want just a cheap Mac to go with my Windows box." In that case, it may work. Maybe Apple should sell a KVM switch along with this... an iPod dock would be so ideal.

I will give this very good thought I think, if it really happens.

[euphras]

* 1.25 GHz has a much slower speed than anything in the PC world right now

What about the Centrinos?!??

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Ok so what you are saying is this "worse specs than the emac" is going to sell and be well received by people who already have a cheap CRT laying about because it is better than an emac cheap CRT.

No I am saying that identical specs to the current eMac for less money is going to sell well for those who don't like low end CRTs. And that's most people these days it seems. And for those who don't mind CRTs, many of them already have CRTs, so why pay for one in the eMac?

I tell ya, a headless eMac would sell like wildfire, even at $599.

Originally posted by euphras:
What about the Centrinos?!??

Clock-for-clock, the Centrinos are MUCH faster than the G4. In fact, the Centrino competes with (and sometimes beats) the G5 for clock-for-clock performance. Overall, the G4 isn't even in the same league as the G5 and Centrino, and I own two G4s.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
No I am saying that identical specs to the current eMac for less money is going to sell well for those who don't like low end CRTs. And that's most people these days it seems. And for those who don't mind CRTs, many of them already have CRTs, so why pay for one in the eMac?

I tell ya, a headless eMac would sell like wildfire, even at $599.

Ok so people who want a low end system with a high end display? Isn't that a lampshade iMac?