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Ryne Sandberg Elected into Baseball Hall of Fame
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Jan 5, 2005, 01:41 PM
 
Ryne Sandberg, the former 2nd baseman for the Cubs, was elected into Baseball Hall of Fame. Growing up watching the Cubs, Sandberg was one of my favorite players. He was always a classy guy and never an attention whore like some of today's players.

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Jan 5, 2005, 01:57 PM
 
FYI, so was Wade Boggs.
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Jan 6, 2005, 07:46 AM
 
I think you mean batting average, not ERA.
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Jan 6, 2005, 09:49 AM
 
He was a very solid, non flashy second baseman, Worthy addition. Boggs is awesome so well.
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Jan 6, 2005, 11:50 AM
 
Question: Why is Sandberg worthy but, say, Don Mattingly and Alan Trammell are not? I'd put all three in roughly the same class.

Sandberg: Second in balloting, named on 76% of ballots
Played 16 seasons (1981-97)
.285 lifetime batting average
282 home runs
10-time All-Star
Nine Gold Gloves
1984 NL MVP
Postseason experience: 1984 lost NLCS to San Diego; 1989 lost NLCS to San Fran.

Trammell: 12th in balloting, named on 16% of ballots
Played 20 seasons (1977-96)
.285 lifetime batting average
185 home runs
Six-time All-Star
Four Gold Gloves
1984 World Series MVP
Postseason experience: 1984 World Champions; 1987 lost ALCS to Minnesota

Mattingly: 14th in balloting, named on 11% of ballots
Played 14 seasons (1982-95)
.307 lifetime batting average
222 home runs
1985 AL MVP
1984 AL batting champion (.343)
Six-time All-Star
Nine Gold Gloves
Postseason experience: 1995 lost in ALDS to Seattle

So what is the "X factor" that gets Sandberg into the Hall?

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Jan 6, 2005, 03:45 PM
 
Originally posted by CaseCom:
Question: Why is Sandberg worthy but, say, Don Mattingly and Alan Trammell are not? I'd put all three in roughly the same class.
Sandberg is definitely worthy, and Trammell has an okay case, but it's worth noting that Mattingly was a 1B/OF. Part of the Hall's criteria, as it is usually explained is how dominant a player was at their position at the time, in addition to their relative merit against others of different times and different positions. Sandberg was one of the more impressive second basemen in recent history, and that's a position which is frequently not known for offense. There are numerous first basemen who produced like Mattingly, more or less, or even better, but aren't ticketed for Cooperstown, and that's probably what will sink him. As for Trammell, even he doesn't look as good when you compare him with Ripken and the rise of the modern power-hitting shortstop.
     
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Jan 6, 2005, 03:49 PM
 
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Jan 6, 2005, 03:57 PM
 
I grew up watching Frank White (former KC Royals 2nd Baseman)...he was absolutely incredible. I doubt he'll make it to the Hall though.

Sandberg is a very worthy candidate!
     
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Jan 6, 2005, 04:23 PM
 
Originally posted by CaseCom:
Question: Why is Sandberg worthy but, say, Don Mattingly and Alan Trammell are not? I'd put all three in roughly the same class.

Sandberg: Second in balloting, named on 76% of ballots
Played 16 seasons (1981-97)
.285 lifetime batting average
282 home runs
10-time All-Star
Nine Gold Gloves
1984 NL MVP
Postseason experience: 1984 lost NLCS to San Diego; 1989 lost NLCS to San Fran.

Trammell: 12th in balloting, named on 16% of ballots
Played 20 seasons (1977-96)
.285 lifetime batting average
185 home runs
Six-time All-Star
Four Gold Gloves
1984 World Series MVP
Postseason experience: 1984 World Champions; 1987 lost ALCS to Minnesota

Mattingly: 14th in balloting, named on 11% of ballots
Played 14 seasons (1982-95)
.307 lifetime batting average
222 home runs
1985 AL MVP
1984 AL batting champion (.343)
Six-time All-Star
Nine Gold Gloves
Postseason experience: 1995 lost in ALDS to Seattle

So what is the "X factor" that gets Sandberg into the Hall?

[All stats from BaseballReference.com]
As calamar1 said, it has a lot to do with dominance at their position. I think you can make a stronger case for Mattingly than Trammell, who took 20 years to hit those homers, never won a league MVP, and only played 150+ plus games three times in his career.
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