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Superchicken · Jan 17, 2005, 09:25 AM

And when I say old Macs I'm thinking, some time perhaps this summer I'm gona go on ebay and buy me an old 300mhz iBook. Probably get a Blueberry one, and possibly get an older blueberry solt loader, hopefully a 400Mhz one with a FW port. I'd just kinda like them as conversation pieces. I'd be able to put at least Tiger on them too so they'd be useful. I could use the iBook as an AirPort terminal connected to a TV or something as well.

Just a thought but I think I'm gona do it. But I'd get the slot loader to match since I know my Rev D is from a slightly different era. Though if I do this I might have to some day get a G5 to match my 12 inch PB

Goldfinger · Jan 17, 2005, 09:38 AM

I thought about this once. But, after checking my bank account I didn't think about it anymore. It's not worth it IMO. Except for really old pieces (pre-PowerPC or early PowerMacs like the 6100/8100 etc), the newish iBooks/iMacs are too expensive.

brapper · Jan 17, 2005, 09:51 AM

once I found an Apple II sitting on the street corner...but after carrying it around for ten minutes, I decided I really had no use for it and walked away from it.

mitchell_pgh · Jan 17, 2005, 09:56 AM

I think it's cool... but I just don't have the space for that kind of thing. A friend of mine has gaming consoles that he collects. He has a TON. Atari 2600 all the way to Xbox, PS2, Game Cube.

Rampant Desire · Jan 17, 2005, 09:56 AM

I think it'd be neat to start a collection. I really love that Twentieth Anniversary Mac. Actually, I think it's infinitely more stylish than the current iMac G5.

When it first came out Apple was asking $10,000 for it

.

Linky

Voch · Jan 17, 2005, 09:59 AM

You can have lots of fun collecting old video game consoles and stuff like that (God knows I have

...no room for old Macs). I've actually pared down my computer stuff to just one Mac and one PC, and I don't use the PC too often.

nredman · Jan 17, 2005, 10:17 AM

i thought about this at one point, even picked up an old tangerine ibook...it was nice to look at but slower then crap. if you want to collect old macs thats cool but dont plan on using them because having used a good current fast machine will make the experience of the old machine really depressing.

Superchicken · Jan 17, 2005, 10:20 AM

The thing is I LOVE the look of the old Macs. And with OS X on em they'd still be usable! Think about it. That said, anyone know where I could get two old air port cards for iBooks and iMacs respectively? Though really I only NEED the iBook's, since I'd be able to wire in the iMac to the network through an AirPort Express base station somewhere. But I figure I could leave in the default 3 gig HD, then have it work kinda like a thin client on the network... wait... CRAP! It won't be powerful enough to play mpeg4... scratch that... DANG IT! Hmmm... ok well maybe as an mp3 server... wait no I'll be using an APE base station... dang...

SOMEONE FIND ME A USE FOR AN IMPULSE BUY!

waxcrash · Jan 17, 2005, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
�That said, anyone know where I could get two old air port cards for iBooks and iMacs respectively?...

Small Dog Electronics sells brand new original airport 802.11b cards for $119 US. Or you can find used ones on eBay.

brapper · Jan 17, 2005, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by waxcrash:
Small Dog Electronics sells brand new original airport 802.11b cards for $119 US. Or you can find used ones on eBay.

OR he could buy one off me for a mutually agreed upon price....
just a thought..

benb · Jan 17, 2005, 02:45 PM

I thought you meant old macs.

My advice to you is not to. I have a IIci on a desk right here and I turned it on and said "Hey, KidPix." Looked at one or two old documents and the shut it off. Too slow and I can't do nothing with it.

Same goes for the 9600 tower. Can barely surf the internet with it. Old crappy browsers, slow Java and Flash, slow page rendering. Why the crap would you want that?

Unless you one of those �ber-nerds that likes to run OS X on an SE/30 just to say you did it, just stay away from the older machines and put that money towards your next 'ebay upgrade'.*

* The process of selling your 1 revision old Mac on eBay for 90% of the cost of a new Mac.

Jens Peter · Jan 17, 2005, 02:52 PM

A couple of guys here in Aarhus have a rather large collection of Macintosh computers. An X at the end means they have the machine in the collection, and (X) means it isn't working.

They even have a small but permanent exhibition at my university... Always nice to stop there for a few minutes..

Superchicken · Jan 17, 2005, 03:58 PM

Haha oh wow... I won't get that bad... I'm only interested in getting the ones that came out in translucent plastic and beyond.... I think they'd be great to kinda of just put in a room

And PERHAPS find a use for... not sure though.

Superchicken · Jan 17, 2005, 04:09 PM

Hey I've been reading a slight bit about VNC... anyone know if I could use an iBook 300Mhz running VNC to control a Mac mini sitting by a TV to play video streamed off a PowerMac over AirPort from another room? Dang... I'd be soo freaking geeky...

Peter · Jan 17, 2005, 04:13 PM

are colour classics worth anything?

Superchicken · Jan 17, 2005, 04:17 PM

I don't think so.

cjrivera · Jan 17, 2005, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Peter:
are colour classics worth anything?

I think they do (or at least used to) in Japan. It used to be one of the hot "collector" macs. in addition to the TAM, and the Powerbook 230c (I think that was the in demand PB).

I think I remember seeing sites about upgrading them with G4's.

CharlesS · Jan 17, 2005, 05:12 PM

You're not an old Mac collector unless you have at least one Mac in the original form factor - a Mac Plus is preferable, but 128K, 512K, SE, SE/30, Classic, or Classic II work as well.

Lateralus · 05:43 PM

I've currently got an SE FDHD, 512K, LC III, Power Mac 6100, Power Mac 9500, PowerCC PowerTower Pro, Beige G3 and my G4 1.47GHz.

And this is the smallest my collection has ever been. At one point I had nearly 20 Macs. I'm trying to cut down though. I think I'm like... growing up or something...

saddino · Jan 17, 2005, 05:29 PM

Mac Plus and a huge heavy external 20MB hard drive (that's right, 20 MEGAbytes). Took it off a friend's hands. Great machine for Dark Castle and BDC.

Superchicken · Jan 17, 2005, 05:36 PM

Hmmm well next year when I get a disposable income...

Rev-O · Jan 17, 2005, 08:01 PM

You'll hafta get a Flower Power G3 iMac and a Blue Dalmation iMac. That's just required. At least those will run 10.3.7 comfortably. I've often toyed with picking up a Flower Power to compliment my Blue Dalmation, but have resisted so far. Seriously, tho, if Apple released a Blue Dalmation of Flower Power G5 iMac, I'd buy one tomorrow. Cash money. I'm so sick of the ugly-ass white stuff.

Sorry... got off on a tangent...

Superchicken · Jan 17, 2005, 09:34 PM

I will NEVER own either... they were so freaking ugly! Though I might get an indigo iBook and iMac hehe... I'd kinda like to get a Snow iMac and a Snow iBook...

MilkmanDan · Jan 17, 2005, 09:45 PM

I bought several classic macs for $5 each, including two color classics. One is a clock now. The other one was going to be a fish tank. I should do that.

waxcrash · Jan 17, 2005, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
Though I might get an indigo iBook...

I would think a key lime iBook would be more your taste.

ManOfSteal · Jan 17, 2005, 10:26 PM

I don't have enough room for my baseball cards, let alone Old Macs...

ShortcutToMoncton · Jan 17, 2005, 10:33 PM

I've got an Apple II Plus from '78, complete with green-and-black monitor, a couple Disk II drives, and that funky old joystick. Hahahaha, someone actually wrote the part number on the "motherboard" with black magic marker when they put it together.

I got it for free....my parents' old real estate agent found out I liked Macs, and some house he bought had that hidden down in the basement. I figure he thought it was an easy way to get rid of junk. I've started it up a few times, but you need to know Basic or whatever it is in order to fool around with it, and I never bothered to bother.

It's just collecting dust in some corner of my old room in Ontario I think, if my Mom hasn't gone through on her threat to toss it....

greg

Superchicken · Jan 18, 2005, 01:31 AM

Actually aside from the Graphite one I'd love to have every model of Clam Shell iBook... those things were sweet!

CD Hanks · Jan 18, 2005, 01:54 AM

Unless you're planning on exhibiting the collection to patrons, it's going to be a terrible investment and a general waste of money.

Go buy some alcohol, throw a party, and get laid.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Superchicken · Jan 18, 2005, 02:19 AM

I don't think God gives out love based on alcohol

CD Hanks · Jan 18, 2005, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
I don't think God gives out love based on alcohol

YOUR GOD HAS LIED TO YOU

Superchicken · Jan 18, 2005, 02:43 AM

I don't think so...

On a completely un related note, I walked out of my room at around 2am, because there were idiots, specifically one huge ass talking in our sub lounge, REALLY LOUDLY, and laughing a lot. And I said, "you have a laugh that carries really far, could you stop" this being said to a person who I've repeatedly asked to be quiet at different times and every time has blown me off. To which he responded **** you, to which I responded... at the top of my lungs "RYAN WHEN I AM TRYING TO SLEEP WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP TALKING!" or something like that. Keeping in mind I have the loudest voice on campus

, after that an RA came out and I heard them talking after I went back in my room. I'm going to talk to an RD tomorrow about this. I have an early morning class and am very frustrated.

Xeo · Jan 18, 2005, 04:38 AM

Wow, chicken, you should get an iBook and use it as a webserver for a blog.

IceEnclosure · Jan 18, 2005, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Unless you're planning on exhibiting the collection to patrons, it's going to be a terrible investment and a general waste of money.

Go buy some alcohol, throw a party, and get laid.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

coolness of tangerine iBook as a conversation piece=meh..

"wow, look at all that extra space around that monitor! awesome!"

heck, even save the money and steal the alcohol. you'll get a bad(good) girl after you do that, then go get laid with her. after you lay her, you both can go to confession. after it's all done, you STILL have your iBook money, but instead, spend it on her not-so-newly-acquired crack addiction.

Oneota · Jan 18, 2005, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Wow, chicken, you should get an iBook and use it as a webserver for a blog.

Peter · Jan 18, 2005, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Wow, chicken, you should get an iBook and use it as a webserver for a blog.

CD Hanks · Jan 18, 2005, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Wow, chicken, you should get an iBook and use it as a webserver for a blog.

No dude, his blog is the Lounge. Only difference is that none of us really give a **** about what he thinks. Maybe Livejournal would really understand him as a person?

Superchicken · Jan 18, 2005, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Wow, chicken, you should get an iBook and use it as a webserver for a blog.

I like to think of forums with no topics as communal blogs.

I actually don't post that much of what I've posted elsewhere. By the way, why is it better to post a topic about a Jesus doll that has "heal the sick action" but not good to post about starting a collection of old macs?

That said I've thought about if I buy my mom a Mac mini for her work and stuff, then I can use it as a light web server for serving up a pdf based blog. I personally don't like the idea of updating html page or building a blog that looks like every other blog. I'd rather just create an index of pdf files.

Superchicken · Jan 20, 2005, 01:15 AM

Nobody ever answered my question... how resource intensive is VNC?

CD Hanks · Jan 20, 2005, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
Nobody ever answered my question... how resource intensive is VNC?

Forum 82 would like a word with you.

olePigeon · Jan 20, 2005, 01:54 AM

Two Macs you really need that strike up a conversation every time:

20th Anniversary Macintosh (I used to own one. *sigh*)
G4 Cube

Xeo · Jan 20, 2005, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
By the way, why is it better to post a topic about a Jesus doll that has "heal the sick action" but not good to post about starting a collection of old macs?

Discussions about starting a collection of old Macs is fine and dandy with me. But notice my post came right after this, and that's not the first time you've posted stuff like that. That's grade A blog material.

Oh, and a blog of PDFs will be a PITA for people to read. You don't need to update HTML manually, just download one of several hundred blogging tools and let it do the work for you. That is, of course, if you're seriously considering taking up blogging. You can continue to post your musings here for all I care, I was just

a little.

And VNC is not resource intensive at all. When no one is connected, it just sits idle and waits for a connection. Perhaps when connected it takes up some CPU, but even then it's not much. VNC is perfect for remote controlling computers.

Superchicken · Jan 20, 2005, 04:28 PM

Oh, sweet... so do you think a 300Mhz iBook could pull it off?

On an unrelated note, if I'm over broadband at College in Calgary next year or the year after, and I have my mom set up with a Mac mini, do you think it would be usable for regularly logging in, installing security updates, and fixing things if she's having problems?

Also, if you're using VNC are you logged in and running your own GUI or if I move the mouse on my PB, will it move on her mini?

Xeo · Jan 20, 2005, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
Oh, sweet... so do you think a 300Mhz iBook could pull it off?

On an unrelated note, if I'm over broadband at College in Calgary next year or the year after, and I have my mom set up with a Mac mini, do you think it would be usable for regularly logging in, installing security updates, and fixing things if she's having problems?

Also, if you're using VNC are you logged in and running your own GUI or if I move the mouse on my PB, will it move on her mini?

Yes that iBook can pull it off. Yes you can use it for installing security updates and fixing stuff (or you can just SSH for that). And depending on the client, it should start in a window (on the client), so that when the window is in the foreground and when your mouse is over it, the mouse on the other end moves. But that's the point. When the window is in the background or the mouse is not over it, the mouse doesn't move on the other end, but again, that's the point. You control it when you're connected and trying to do so.

osxpinot · Jan 20, 2005, 10:48 PM

VNC is gonna be slow. I used it control a Windows box from an iBook g4, and it pissed me off it was so slow. I switched to Microsoft Remote Desktop client and found it to be much mroe responsive. VNC is good over the web, but I wouldn't touch it in a LAN envirornment. Perhaps it was just we having bad luck. Who knows.

Would Apple's remote desktop client work for you?

NYCFarmboy · 01:24 AM

http://www.nycblue.com/orangeibook.jpg
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I got this one on ebay about 2 years ago, I use it from time to time still, it is very rugged.
256 megs of ram running Jaguar...I could probably put panther on it but I just use it for web or as an extra computer for guests etc.

I have it upgraded with a 40 gig drive and a airport card.

The KEYLIME ibooks are much more expensive (the orange one was 300 bucks I think), if you are going to collect one for value I'd recommend finding a KEYLIME as there were fewer made (I think you could only get the keylime ibooks from Apple direct), and also had a faster processor & DVD player as well and firewire (the only thing I really miss on my orange ibook)

Superchicken · Jan 21, 2005, 12:14 AM

Wait, the 300Mhz models dont' have Firewire? I thought every iBook made had Firewire...

Dang... this puts a bit of a ding in my plans... oh well guess I can buy the 350Mhz iMac then since if the iBook won't have Firewire I don't need it on the iMac either... I was figuring I'd leave open my options with em for doing stuff... with Firewire haha... hmm... maybe... I might also wanna buy a iMac G4 and an iBook of the same age some time too... hmm we'll have to see... but that'd be like... four years or more down the line so they'll be cheaper

But yah I could find a Blueberry iBook for like 250 on Ebay recently so it shouldn't be hard when I wanna buy.

runningdog · Jan 21, 2005, 12:37 AM

i got the Mac collecting bug about 4 years ago. Started with a Mac Plus i picked up at a thrift store for $10. Later found another Mac Plus for $5. Both worked for a little while until the analog board died. Now i've got a IIcx with a Rocketboard, a IIsi (which i gave away to a family member), an LC (my first Mac), a 7200 with a G3/400 accelerator, and a trashed 9500 tower someone tried to throw out (looks like someone took a hammer to the motherboard.) i really enjoy collecting portables especially since they are self contained systems. i have a Powerbook 140, 145, 540c (excellent working condition), a 5300c/117 (slow but great condition; given away to a friend), two 3400c/240 (both were fixer-upers and work great), a Wallstreet 300 (not working). i keep hoping to find a great deal on other powerbooks but prices have been so high even on broken units. Plus there come a point where paying for a used model, broken, or just parts doesn't make much sense when a new Powerbook isn't that far off in price.

Everymac.com

bradoesch · Jan 21, 2005, 02:20 PM

I've got more classic Macs than I know what to do with.

I've got models in the classic form factor (SE, SE/HD SE 30), pizza box (LCII, LCIII), AIO (Performa 580CD), clones (Umax SuperMac 240, Mot Starmax 3000/240), Mac Portable, IIs (si, cx).

Yesterday I got that Umax clone and a beige G3. I'm actually kinda excited about the G3. I usually collect much older stuff but I'm gonna set this one up for everyday use.

bradoesch · Jan 21, 2005, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by saddino:
Mac Plus and a huge heavy external 20MB hard drive (that's right, 20 MEGAbytes). Took it off a friend's hands. Great machine for Dark Castle and BDC.

Heh, I've got one of those 20 MB drives too. They're bootable!