[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Which do you prefer in your life?

Not just computers, I am talking about the way you arrange your desk to the way your laundry machine works.

[Kilbey]

Function over form. If it works better by looking worse, then I choose function.

But if it can look better and still work just as well, then all the better.

[TheBadgerHunter]

A nice balance leaning a bit towards form.

[kmkkid]

I prefer both in a man.



Chris

[cszar2001]

Form is a result of function. And that`s the way it should be.

[Judge_Fire]

The given formula is misleading.


Function + Aesthetics = Form


The shape and structure, ie. form, of something can be measured in terms of its functional and aesthetic qualities.

Of course, when something 'looks cool', that is usually functionality - it has been designed to attract and drive sales, for example.

J

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally posted by cszar2001:
Form is a result of function. And that`s the way it should be.

I think "form follows function" is the exact phrase. And yes, I think that is how it should be.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Apple usually follows form over function. Not that I mind most of the time (other than the damn round mouse).

[rozwado1]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
Function over form. If it works better by looking worse, then I choose function.

Just like GMs, but they don't function well.

[f1000]

Form ever follows function.

-Louis Sullivan

[f1000]

Double Post

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by rozwado1:
Just like GMs, but they don't function well.

Why do you bring GM into this thread? Are you obsessed with me? You need a fanboy card.

[rozwado1]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
Why do you bring GM into this thread? Are you obsessed with me? You need a fanboy card.

I'm just bitter today bc my engine block cracked on my 2004 Grand Am this morning. POS.

I'm done.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by rozwado1:
I'm just bitter today bc my engine block cracked on my 2004 Grand Am this morning. POS.

I'm done.

Just think, you're getting a brand new engine!

What caused the crack? Overheating? WHy would it have overheated? Do you know anything about cars?

What block did you have? 4 cyl. or 6 cyl.?

[rozwado1]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
What block did you have? 4 cyl. or 6 cyl.?

6 cyl, GT model. The engine was taken care of. Apparently the block wasn't formed correctly in an area on the inside and it led to a sudden break. (that's what the mechanic at the dealer said at least)

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by rozwado1:
6 cyl, GT model. The engine was taken care of. Apparently the block wasn't formed correctly in an area on the inside and it led to a sudden break. (that's what the mechanic at the dealer said at least)

I hope the camshaft didn't suffer any damage. It was made at the plant where I work. Actually, a little bit of info on that cam: it is called an assembled camshaft. Meaning the lobes and journals are "ballized" onto a premade shaft. A steel ball bearing that is a little larger than the shaft interior diameter is pushed through the shaft and that permenately attaches the lobes and journal to the shaft. Most other camshafts are made from a single piece of steel or cast iron.

[TailsToo]

Hockey Puck Mouse - quite possibly the worst product Apple made EVER!

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by TailsToo:
Hockey Puck Mouse - quite possibly the worst product Apple made EVER!

No, I'm pretty sure that was the 8100.

[hart]

Originally posted by TailsToo:
Hockey Puck Mouse - quite possibly the worst product Apple made EVER!

funny my kids are still using it. and the B&W G3 it came with (altho it's been upgraded a lot). That simple one button little round thing has been great for kids.

I agree with the function+aesthetics=form. Either one gets out of balance, you've got problems. My spouse thinks form is all and the result has been a series of unusable messes. If you chose something totally because of it's form and it has to do a job, the lack of good functioning will destroy the form also.

On the other hand, recently unpacking my new Dell, I was struck by the difference in the experience with that of unpacking ANY Apple product. The ugly thing came in a bunch of plain brown boxes, all function, not a speck of form. Beautiful aesthetics create an experience and pleasure in and of themselves but Apple packaging is a great example of how the melding of the two creates a balanced whole that is greater than the two parts alone.

[mitchell_pgh]

I would pick form... obviously it must function, or I wouldn't purchase the item, but I usually insist it "look" like it fits.

A place for everything, everything in its place.

[John Q. Smith]

i'd rather have a fit looking guy than some chap who is "functional." leave functionality to the proletariat.

[macaddict0001]

I chose form because by law a product must function for its intended purpose.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Personally I take form over function. If something LOOKS really nice I enjoy working with it more. For example my desk is very neat, my scanner is tucked away in a shelf, along with all the other ugly peripherals. I don't mind having to open a door to access them as long as things are clean and neat the rest of the time.

Same goes for the G4 cube. The ports on the bottom back weren't that convenient to get to but they were out of sight. The 3 times a year I had to access them made it a nice trade off.

I see people stuff their desk with every charger and other bit of equipment they can even though they don't use it very often because they thing they need convenient access to it whenever the once a week need for it comes up.

Same goes for the Dock in OSX. Many people stick every app they own in it to either show off or so they don't have to click on the apps folder. Myself I rather keep the doc neat with essentials and put the Applications folder in the dock for convenient and neat access to the other apps.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by macaddict0001:
I chose form because by law a product must function for its intended purpose.

How do you explain MS Windows?

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by TailsToo:
Hockey Puck Mouse - quite possibly the worst product Apple made EVER!

I must be the only person that loved the hockey puck mouse. Well, except the part about it being a scroll wheel and a second button short. But other than that, I loved it being round. For some reason, I have always rotated the mouse sideways when i use it. It was much easier to do with a round mouse.

[macaddict0001]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
How do you explain MS Windows?

It does function, just not very well(xp is pretty good though). And lawsuits have been filed against it as well as antitrust legislation. The thing is though, it is cheaper for microsoft to hire the best lawyers of all time than have their reputation ruined.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
I must be the only person that loved the hockey puck mouse.

Yes.

[Link]

function comes first, form comes second. That doesn't mean the object lacks in form, it just means that it functions superbly.

I would rather a car that I can sit comfortably without banging my head into the ceiling than a "pretty" car that has a ceiling I'd constantly be hitting my head against.

Form over function can be simply stupid. If it doesn't function too well, that form might not last forever either, for example port covers on laptops tend to break and decorative trim on cars tends to get discolored when you wax the car (oops), slot loading drives wear out with time and well, you get the idea.

Something that's not made to function well won't look well, that's the way I see it. Contrary to most people's opinions, I actually think Apple *embraces function over form*.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally posted by Link:
Something that's not made to function well won't look well, that's the way I see it. Contrary to most people's opinions, I actually think Apple *embraces function over form*.

Not really. Look at the Mac Mini for one.

They used a more expensive, smaller, slower, lower capasity drive to make the unit smaller.
They made an external power brick to make it sexier.
It is one hell of a bitch to open up.
Just room for one RAM slot.

In other words, they want it small and sexy at the expense of fucntionality.

Even the G5's COULD have a second drive bay if they wanted to but I am sure they didn't want to have an ugly expandibility port on the front.