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Ok because I am getting sick of a endless argument with a friend I decided to post this poll to see what others would do.
One of my best friends gave me his brothers car a little while back, and bought him a Newer used car for his birthday. So anyways Its a 1987 Honda Prelude.
Now the only problem the car currently has which is keeping me from driving it is a fail in Vancouvers Autoemission test, Air Care. Ive tracked the problem down to a O2 Sensor, about $100.00. The engine runs great, his brother replaced the clutch just before I got it so thats new. The timing belt was replaced too. The power Windows, Power Stering, Power sun roof, power assisted breaks and power mirrors all work. The heater works the breaks are decent, prob need to service them in a few months and the tread on the wheels are about 50%.
The car could use a wheel alignment and tuneup but dosent need it. I have a leaking fuel pipe running to the gas tank but thats a free warranty repair I have been told. I spent 400 fixing the exhust which was rusted out bad again air care related crap. Recently the locks got punched in and the driver side window has been smashed and cuz the car was sitting so long the battery is dead but the alternator runs fun since LOL we drove it with out a battery after we jumped it. So anyways My friend thinks I should throw the car away and get another car because I have to fix the window, locks aand O2 sensor. Since I got the car for free and only spent 400 on stuff that was related to aircare and not the actually running of the car and the major things on old cars have been replaced like the clutch I just want to spend money on getting it tip top and keep it (fun car to drive) but he thinks im wasting my money. The value of these cars are between 1500 to 3000 CDN so even if I spent another 1100 i will have spent about the same amount as if I just bought it used with no work done. So what would you guys do, keep it, haul it away or just spend the min on it and drive it into the ground. I really like this car and if I did get ride of it I would get a 88 Prelude anyways which are running around 5000 used. But I dont think I need to replace this car. Oh it might have a minor electrical problem but thats common in Hondas from the 80's and early 90's. battery dosent charge as fast as it should.
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If you like the car and want to save money then fix it and drive it into the ground.
Rarely is there a cheaper car than the one you are currently driving. And if you like the car, all the better!
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And by all means post comments about the troubles of used cars. cuz I cant convince him that I could be in more trouble with another used car that might be newer. At least this engine is in great shape for how old the car is. LOL so far going up a steep grade hill with 4 big guys in it the car was able to maintain 130KPH in 4th, and I can get her 80KPH in second gear high rev and well over 100 in 3rd... its a 5 speed.
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Originally posted by Kilbey:
If you like the car and want to save money then fix it and drive it into the ground.
Rarely is there a cheaper car than the one you are currently driving. And if you like the car, all the better!
My main point im trying to come across to him is that it cost me 0.00, even if I have to do 1500.00 worth of work the car will prob be in way better shape then any used car for 3-5000 that will prob still need work anyways. Ive had the car long enough and drove in it many times with my friends brother to know there is nothing really wrong with it anyways. Would be nice to have a 88 with 4WS but oh well.
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Do you have the money for another car or would you have to finance another one? If you don't already have the money you would be better off just keeping what you have. At least with this one you know what problems it has. Used cars can cost you a fortune because you never know what you are getting yourself into. Also, if you finance a car the cost of insurance will be more since the coverage that you carry will be higher.
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Originally posted by discotronic:
Do you have the money for another car or would you have to finance another one? If you don't already have the money you would be better off just keeping what you have. At least with this one you know what problems it has. Used cars can cost you a fortune because you never know what you are getting yourself into. Also, if you finance a car the cost of insurance will be more since the coverage that you carry will be higher.
I can't afford a new car, I might be able to get financing but I would need a good down payment since my credit is shot to hell. So basically either spend a few hundred now or save up a few thousand and not have anything for a few months. Also my current car is about the same price to insure as a new car since its a high theift car and a sports car and I carry no discounts right now cuz I only got a licence 2 years ago.
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gotta be more ppl that could vote on this LOL
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Junk it. Save your moneys for a Ferrari.
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Originally posted by Kilbey:
If you like the car and want to save money then fix it and drive it into the ground.
Rarely is there a cheaper car than the one you are currently driving. And if you like the car, all the better!
...is the right answer.
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I voted to keep it. You could put around $500 into it and not worry about car payments and the higher insurance you would need because you have a car loan. the oxygen sensor and window are probably the most expensive things you need to replace. You can do a tune up yourself. Plugs, cap, rotor, change the oil and new air filter is about all you'd need to do on that car (unless it's not fuel injected).
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Originally posted by Goldfinger:
Pics ? What engine do you have in it ?
Engine
Engine Type 4-cyl OHC 12v EFI
Displacement (cc) 1955
Horsepower (hp@rpm) 115@5500
Torque (lb-ft. @ rpm) 114@4500
Tread (in.)(Front/Rear) 57.9/57.9
Curb Weight (lbs.) 2379
Turning Diameter (ft.) 34.1
Fuel Tank Capacity 15.8
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Wheelbase (in.) 96.5
Length (in.) 172
Width (in.) 66.9
Height (in.) 48.6
Interior Dimensions
Headroom (in.) 37.3/33.9
Shoulder room (in.) 54.5/51.9
Hiproom (in.) 49.7/47.6
Legroom (in.) 43.2/26.1
Cargo Volume (cu. ft.) 9.1
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Air Conditioning <- Not sure if I have that
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AM/FM Stereo w/Cassette <-- Stolen ****ing theifs
Cruise Control <-- Dont think I have that either
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I'll post some pictures of it on my site in a little bit
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It looks pretty good, shame about the big dent though. If it hasn't got too much miles I'd say fix it. The amount necessary to fix it isn't that high. And even if you buy an other second hand that doesn't need work you don't know what costs can come up with that one it can turn out even more expensive.
Verdict: fix that ride.
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Preludes are absolutely great Hondas. I vote for keep it, fix it up, and just drive it until it dies.
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I voted to junk the car.
You should really set an absolute limit to the amount of money you will spend on repairs.
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broken window? key/lock damage? missing stereo? (from the photos).
did someone break into it too? why would anyone want an almost 20 year old radio?
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Originally posted by residentEvil:
broken window? key/lock damage? missing stereo? (from the photos).
did someone break into it too? why would anyone want an almost 20 year old radio?
Hard drugs make people do the weirdest **** to get a fix.
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Originally posted by residentEvil:
why would anyone want an almost 20 year old radio?
Perhaps they don't like modern music and prefer a bit of early-80's synth pop?
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Originally posted by residentEvil:
broken window? key/lock damage? missing stereo? (from the photos).
did someone break into it too? why would anyone want an almost 20 year old radio?
Actually it was a mp3/cd player  . The Stereo was stolen a while ago, after that i left the door unlocked until last month I accedently locked it. Now the window got smashed out when some one wanted in I guess. It wasent parted in the best underground for a while. I just moved it to better place the other day
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Originally posted by Secret__Police:
I voted to junk the car.
You should really set an absolute limit to the amount of money you will spend on repairs.
I did, 1500.00 the low side value of the car. If I dont excede 1500 in total cost of things then I really come out ahead as the car cost me nothing orginally.
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Well I priced out everything
All in CDN Dollars
The Aircare related work which I need so I can insure the dam car
Roater $3.99
and cap $18.37
Spark Plugs $14.95 pair
O2 Sensor $81.99
Air Filter $29.49
$163.74
Back Tail Light $4.00
Gas Pipe Free
MP3/Deck $159.00
Alarm/Keyless Entery
Remote Starter $179.00
So a total of $505.74
And Its to late to get a price on fixing the window. Of the stuff thats actually needed its $163.74
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Not bad at all. Enjoy the car. 
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I dont think a single person that voted no said why, I am actually interested in reasons why to junk it.
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Originally posted by Athens:
Well I priced out everything
All in CDN Dollars
The Aircare related work which I need so I can insure the dam car
Roater $3.99
and cap $18.37
Spark Plugs $14.95 pair
O2 Sensor $81.99
Air Filter $29.49
$163.74
Back Tail Light $4.00
Gas Pipe Free
MP3/Deck $159.00
Alarm/Keyless Entery
Remote Starter $179.00
So a total of $505.74
And Its to late to get a price on fixing the window. Of the stuff thats actually needed its $163.74
Remote Starter, what is that ? Sounds like moneywasting to me 
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Originally posted by Goldfinger:
Remote Starter, what is that ? Sounds like moneywasting to me
The Alarm package I want is only 15.00 more to get it with a remote starter, for 15.00 more why not. Besides it could help out if I ever go to Edmonton again in the winter. From the hotel room start the car and let the engine warm up for 10 min before I get inside. I want the keyless Entery because I never plan to have door locks again.
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Originally posted by Goldfinger:
Remote Starter, what is that ? Sounds like moneywasting to me
Gotta have them in the cold wasteland known as Canada. 
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Gotta have them in the cold wasteland known as Canada.
I dont live in that part of Canada, where I live its rare to see more then a couple inchs of snow a year. For the last 2 weeks we have had lows of 10°c and highs as high as 18°c.
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Originally posted by Athens:
The Alarm package I want is only 15.00 more to get it with a remote starter, for 15.00 more why not. Besides it could help out if I ever go to Edmonton again in the winter. From the hotel room start the car and let the engine warm up for 10 min before I get inside. I want the keyless Entery because I never plan to have door locks again.
Why would you spend the money on an alarm any way? Are you keeping things IN the car that are of value? An alarm ill not help with that... By the time it goes off your stuff is gone (including the mp3 player) And have you ever seen anyone do ANYTHING about a car's alarm going off?
Or are you worried about the car being stolen? If so there are other solutions.
As for the car, for the $500 ($620) CDN I would keep the sucker for as long as you need it. The big questions I have would be when was the timing belt replaced? Should be every 80-100K I think in that engine. Also, how many miles on the engine?
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Originally posted by Athens:
I want the keyless Entery because I never plan to have door locks again.
What happens when the battery is dead and you are locked out?
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Originally posted by Kilbey:
What happens when the battery is dead and you are locked out?
Prob the same thing when both my locks are busted out and the battery is dead. A trip through the trunk LOL
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Originally posted by zerostar:
Why would you spend the money on an alarm any way? Are you keeping things IN the car that are of value? An alarm ill not help with that... By the time it goes off your stuff is gone (including the mp3 player) And have you ever seen anyone do ANYTHING about a car's alarm going off?
Or are you worried about the car being stolen? If so there are other solutions.
As for the car, for the $500 ($620) CDN I would keep the sucker for as long as you need it. The big questions I have would be when was the timing belt replaced? Should be every 80-100K I think in that engine. Also, how many miles on the engine?
Ya the belts been replaces, it has 220 000km and the Alarm cuts my insurance down by 15%
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Originally posted by wdlove:
Honda is a good car, certainly worth fixing.
they must be, i dont know the history of the orginal owner but second owner said they didnt take care of the car, they just drove it. Second owner, the friend I got it from drove the car really dam hard. And its still in one peace and running good. And taking its age in consideration I have no doubts about Hondas being good cars.
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Originally posted by wdlove:
Honda is a good car, certainly worth fixing.
Just because it's a Honda, doesn't automatically mean it's worth fixing does it?
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park it someplace that won't get it towed and turn into a geo-cache site. see what people leave/take.
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Originally posted by Fiend:
park it someplace that won't get it towed and turn into a geo-cache site. see what people leave/take.
There wasent anything in there to steal orginally and I left it unlocked for months. I accedently locked it one day and didn't bother to go back to unlock it and of course the Window gets smashed in and the other lock gets busted. Argh that ticks me off.
Zimphire, if you read what I said about the car, whats already been replaced, what it cost me you should be able to do better then saying just because its a honda.... blah blah
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