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Napster to go IS better than the iTunes Music Store!
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Feb 15, 2005, 09:19 PM
 
According to MacCentral, the DRM for Napster to Go has been very easily broken. If you have WinAMP, and you don't a plugin for it, it will allow you to strip the DRM, burn it to a CD and then reimport it as any format you want. Is there quality loss? Sure, but negligible (so I've heard). So at $15/mo for as much DRM free music as you want, Napster To Go is looking like a better deal than iTunes.

This is why the subscription model will never work for companies. Apple really doesn't care if you strip the DRM from the music you have. They care when you start doing illegal things with it. You still bought the music from them though and they got their dollar.

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Feb 15, 2005, 09:26 PM
 
Napster is just one competitor for itunes there are many that itunes has to compete with.
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Feb 15, 2005, 10:07 PM
 
I don't see how this could be better than iTMS when I'm met with this upon trying to use their service.

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Feb 15, 2005, 11:42 PM
 
Janus, the DRM from Microsoft, is so great that companies and malicious users can hide malware, viruses, trojans, and worms in them.
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Feb 16, 2005, 02:25 AM
 
Originally posted by SWFan:
I don't see how this could be better than iTMS when I'm met with this upon trying to use their service.

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1. I was being sarcastic about it being better than iTMS

2. Since there is no such thing as WinAMP on the Mac, unless you have a PC, I wouldn't suggest using Napster.
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Feb 16, 2005, 02:30 AM
 
Originally posted by SWFan:
I don't see how this could be better than iTMS when I'm met with this upon trying to use their service.

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VPC, anyone?
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Feb 16, 2005, 09:32 AM
 
Originally posted by malvolio:
VPC, anyone?
Napster runs horribly in VPC 7 on my dual 2 G5 with 2 GB of RAM. The music is unlistenable because if you do so much as move the mouse, it skips.
     
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Feb 16, 2005, 09:54 AM
 
Originally posted by iDriveX:
According to MacCentral, the DRM for Napster to Go has been very easily broken. If you have WinAMP, and you don't a plugin for it, it will allow you to strip the DRM, burn it to a CD and then reimport it as any format you want.
You can do exactly the same thing with iTunes music, also with loss of quality, except you need no plugins whatsoever.
     
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Feb 16, 2005, 09:56 AM
 
Originally posted by iDriveX:
According to MacCentral, the DRM for Napster to Go has been very easily broken. If you have WinAMP, and you don't a plugin for it, it will allow you to strip the DRM, burn it to a CD and then reimport it as any format you want. Is there quality loss? Sure, but negligible (so I've heard). So at $15/mo for as much DRM free music as you want, Napster To Go is looking like a better deal than iTunes.
Actually, from what I read, there is a method to save it in WMV w/o DRM, and WITHOUT a quality loss (i.e., no analog to digital conversion).

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Feb 16, 2005, 10:47 AM
 
Originally posted by memory-minus:
Napster runs horribly in VPC 7 on my dual 2 G5 with 2 GB of RAM. The music is unlistenable because if you do so much as move the mouse, it skips.
So why not use VPC to download & de-DRM the files, and listen to them in iTunes.
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Feb 16, 2005, 11:05 AM
 
if you use Napster To Go to pirate music...

why not just pirate music?


Or at the very least just know that "NTG pirating" is better than iTMS.


iTMS is still the best "legit" store.
     
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Feb 16, 2005, 11:24 AM
 
Originally posted by analogika:
You can do exactly the same thing with iTunes music, also with loss of quality, except you need no plugins whatsoever.
His point was that with iTMS songs, the dollar is spent even if you decide to pirate it. With NTG, you could technically not pay anything for 2 weeks and just pirate music, the artists and record labels never getting a dime.
     
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Feb 16, 2005, 12:30 PM
 
Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
if you use Napster To Go to pirate music...

why not just pirate music?
I can only assume it's much easier to find what you're looking for.
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Feb 16, 2005, 01:47 PM
 
So:

14 days @ 24 hours @ 60 minutes = 20,160 minutes of music.

Assuming an average of 4 minutes per song, that's 5,040 songs you could potentially get during the trial period.

Not bad...

Only problem being that from what I remember reading, Winamp is not conversion as much as it is rerouting the music which means you'd have to play/record in real-time.

Originally posted by Xeo:
His point was that with iTMS songs, the dollar is spent even if you decide to pirate it. With NTG, you could technically not pay anything for 2 weeks and just pirate music, the artists and record labels never getting a dime.
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