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sideus · 02:19 PM

Is this game ultra rare or something?

I've always wanted to get the Japanese version of the SNES (Super Famicom) because it has always looked better than the SNES aesthetically. So I was looking around the Internet and I came across a couple Super Famicom sales that include Chrono Trigger stating that is is "ULTRA RARE!". I remember picking the game up here in the U.S. when it was released with no problems. Was the game hard to find in Japan?

Edit: Found my copy in the closest. Link.

Cubeoid · Feb 16, 2005, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by sideus:
Was the game hard to find in Japan?

I love CT. Have been a big fan for a long time, best RPG ever, the thought and creativity that went into it is something special, the music, sublime.. now where was I.. yea..

When I was living in the land of the robots last year, I spent some time walking around Tokyo's game stores, there are a lot of these. I remember seeing the original CT Super Famicon cart on sale, if I recall right it was 2000Y, now that is pretty cheap, new games cost about 5000Y. The game was very popular in Japan, which means it sold a lot, and in Japan, people buy a lot of games, so the conclussion is: Ultra-Rare? No. Rare? Probably not. If you seek you most likely will find.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Feb 16, 2005, 02:39 PM

I had the original US version and I also loved the hell out of it. Sold it 10 years ago though.

Millennium · Feb 16, 2005, 02:44 PM

I've still got my copy of the original SNES version. I've got everyone (except Magus) up to level ** already, and I've worked on and off for the last few years to try and get everyone's stats up to ** in everything that can be raised that high.

I don't know if I'd call CT the best RPG ever, but it's definitely in the top five and possibly even the top three.

Mr Kino · Feb 16, 2005, 02:47 PM

Chrono Trigger! That game was awsome, especially its new game plus feature and multiple endings.

chrono cross... Ugh!!! I never got farther than 30 minutes into that game and regreted dropping my money on that.

it is not ultra rare btw.

lavar78 · Feb 16, 2005, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Millennium:
I don't know if I'd call CT the best RPG ever, but it's definitely in the top five and possibly even the top three.

Agreed. FFVI is #1 in my book, but Chrono Trigger, FF Tactics, and Lunar are all up there.

macintologist · Feb 16, 2005, 09:01 PM

What about Zelda: A Link to the Past?

lavar78 · Feb 16, 2005, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by macintologist:
What about Zelda: A Link to the Past?

I don't count Zelda games as RPGs. I guess I could, but that would screw up my rankings.

If I did, the original, A Link to the Past, and Wind Waker would all be in the top 10 at least.

OwlBoy · Feb 17, 2005, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by lavar78:
I don't count Zelda games as RPGs. I guess I could, but that would screw up my rankings.

If I did, the original, A Link to the Past, and Wind Waker would all be in the top 10 at least.

Yes, Zelda is more of an Adventure game.

-Owl

wataru · Feb 17, 2005, 02:43 AM

Chrono Trigger is my favorite game ever. I played the original SNES version to death, and I also imported the Playstation port with the anime cutscenes.

This thread just inspired me to replay it

starman · Feb 17, 2005, 07:19 AM

Didn't CT come with one of the Final Fantasy compilation CDs? If so, I think I have it.

EDIT: Yup

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=934254

Mike

ink · Feb 17, 2005, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by starman:
Didn't CT come with one of the Final Fantasy compilation CDs? If so, I think I have it.

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=934254

I think I read that it doesn't work on the PS2; you need to have a PSX to use it

wataru · Feb 17, 2005, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by starman:
Didn't CT come with one of the Final Fantasy compilation CDs? If so, I think I have it.

EDIT: Yup

If you had to check, then you clearly don't appreciate it enough

starman · Feb 17, 2005, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by wataru:
If you had to check, then you clearly don't appreciate it enough

Never played it. I've always wanted to. I wasn't sure if it was CC or CT that was on that set.

Mike

wataru · Feb 17, 2005, 10:16 AM

It's never too late.

Millennium · Feb 17, 2005, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by starman:
Never played it. I've always wanted to. I wasn't sure if it was CC or CT that was on that set.

CT is.

My wife and I recently picked up a used copy of Chrono Cross, but we haven't had time to play it yet. We've also got a copy of the PSX version with FF4, but we haven't played the CT side yet. How good are these?

wataru · Feb 17, 2005, 10:50 AM

I didn't like CC nearly as much. From what I recall, the plot didn't tie in all that well with CT. Or maybe it did, but in really weird ways. And for some reason I remember it being much more linear than CT, which made me feel bored with it quickly.

The PSX port of CT is identical to the SNES version, except that you can unlock bonus extras, like anime cutscenes, maps, data about enemies, a sound test, etc. To get everything you have to beat it with every ending. It's definitely worth playing through, but the load time (when doing just about anything, like opening the menu) was excruciating on my PSX.

the corporation · Feb 17, 2005, 10:50 AM

Oh man...memories...

The days when your parents wouldn't buy it for you, so you'd rent it, play up to a certain level, and then have to return it only to find your uber savegame overwritten by someone else.

Then you started mowing lawns, anything to get the cash to actually buy it...

lavar78 · Feb 17, 2005, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by wataru:
The PSX port of CT is identical to the SNES version, except that you can unlock bonus extras, like anime cutscenes, maps, data about enemies, a sound test, etc. To get everything you have to beat it with every ending. It's definitely worth playing through, but the load time (when doing just about anything, like opening the menu) was excruciating on my PSX.

"Excruciating" is way too kind. The load times in the PS CT are the worst in the history of gaming. I wish I were exaggerating. The game's good enough that it's still worth playing, but there's something to be said for tracking down the now-rare SNES version.

Superchicken · Feb 17, 2005, 02:07 PM

Snes9x + Chrono Trigger ROM + USB Overdrive + Game Pad = Happy Chrono Trigger gaming

Best of all, I'm Canadian... I love our copyright laws. No load times, no new stuff, just the good old stuff. It was certainly one of the best RPGs ever made... I do kinda wish I had a PS so I could play the newer square stuff, I loved Xenogears (though the last bit of the game where you just ran form dungeon to dungeon no air ship no nothing got a bit frustrating, not to mention loosing Ellie and never getting her back!)

That said FFVI was also an amazing game... I have yet to play VII though

Millennium · Feb 17, 2005, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
It was certainly one of the best RPGs ever made... I do kinda wish I had a PS so I could play the newer square stuff, I loved Xenogears (though the last bit of the game where you just ran form dungeon to dungeon no air ship no nothing got a bit frustrating, not to mention loosing Ellie and never getting her back!)

I was rather miffed when I hit Disc 2, and Square ran out of money and turned the whole thing into one big cut-scene. According to rumor, though, once they finish Xenosaga IV they plan on remaking Xenogears and re-adding the stuff that got cut from the first game, releasing this as Xenosaga V.

That said FFVI was also an amazing game... I have yet to play VII though

FFVI was great. FFVII is... special is the only word I can think of. There's a reason that this game pretty much singlehandedly catapulted the PSX all the way to dominance of the console market.

Stradlater · Feb 17, 2005, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
I loved Xenogears (though the last bit of the game where you just ran form dungeon to dungeon no air ship no nothing got a bit frustrating, not to mention loosing Ellie and never getting her back!)

The plot wasn't upsetting to you? The game almost wasn't released because of the "controversial" way it dealt with religion.

Superchicken · Feb 17, 2005, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Stradlater:
The plot wasn't upsetting to you? The game almost wasn't released because of the "controversial" way it dealt with religion.

I got bored a bit during it. I thought the concept of Dues was interesting... didn't much care for it... by why would I find it offensive? Dues did not represent the trinity or Jesus or God the Father. He was an idea in a fictional world. If they would have turned it against Christianity then I would have been offended. But I rather enjoyed Xenogears.

wataru · Feb 17, 2005, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Stradlater:
The plot wasn't upsetting to you? The game almost wasn't released because of the "controversial" way it dealt with religion.

I never played Xenogears so I was only vaguely aware of the controversy you speak of, but yesterday I happened to read an excellent but extremely long essay about Earthbound that touches on it. I thought it was really interesting. Search for the third instance of "god" on the page.

Incidentally, the essay inspired me to finally try to finish Earthbound.

juanvaldes · Feb 17, 2005, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Millennium:
FFVI was great. FFVII is... special is the only word I can think of. There's a reason that this game pretty much singlehandedly catapulted the PSX all the way to dominance of the console market.

Yeah never ending pre-rendered cut scenes.

Stradlater · Feb 17, 2005, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
I got bored a bit during it. I thought the concept of Dues was interesting... didn't much care for it... by why would I find it offensive? Dues did not represent the trinity or Jesus or God the Father. He was an idea in a fictional world. If they would have turned it against Christianity then I would have been offended. But I rather enjoyed Xenogears.

"Deus" means "God" in Latin. The religious aspects of the game, while not directly Christian, are heavily influenced.

I haven't played the game in forever, but here we go...

Why I thought you might be offended:
*SPOILER:*

To beat the game, you have to kill God (and all religious faith). God turns out to be nothing more than a machine. Billy loses faith in religion and finds faith, instead, in himself. The game questions religion heavily. Fei is a Christlike figure, but his rebirths (from the original Abel/Cain, etc.) aren't due to any religious miracle; he is cloned by Deus and the committee that controlled Deus at this point. When they kill God, they kill all that kept the religion of the planet going.

There are -- of course -- inconsistencies between the religion of that world and Christianity, but there are many more allusions: Cain/Abel, the mother, the Tower of Babel, and so on and so on.

Superchicken · Feb 17, 2005, 08:42 PM

Yes, it had a well written story line. However the game works under the fundamental assumption that God were a machine. I was actually more impressed with all the similarities between Chrono Trigger and Xenogears. I don't feel it was an attack on Christianity any more so than the music I look at is an attack against Islam.

lavar78 · Feb 17, 2005, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by juanvaldes:
Yeah never ending pre-rendered cut scenes.

That's just one of the reasons. The other is Tifa. Or is that two reasons?

Stradlater · Feb 17, 2005, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
Yes, it had a well written story line. However the game works under the fundamental assumption that God were a machine.

Actually, God turns out to be a machine in the end, but throughout the actual story, the religious people believe just as people do in real life.

That was the surprising thing in the story: that a religion could really just spawn from a computer malfunction. It was an interesting take.

sideus · Feb 20, 2005, 05:19 AM

Just completed Super Mario World again. Years ago I got all 96 goals in the game. So I fire up SMW the other day and someone overwrote my save, so I started over and just finished all 96 again.

Of all the consoles I've had (NES, SNES, N64, GC, all GameBoys, PS2), the SNES has always been the most fun to me. Good times.

macintologist · Feb 20, 2005, 05:29 AM

I have a Macally iShock, you know the one that looks like a PSX controller and is see through.

I use that to play SNES games in SNES9x. Lots of fun :-)

lavar78 · Feb 20, 2005, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by sideus:
Of all the consoles I've had (NES, SNES, N64, GC, all GameBoys, PS2), the SNES has always been the most fun to me. Good times.

It's either NES or SNES for me. I'm not sure which one I'd pick if forced, but they're far ahead of the others.