[itistoday]

Anyone have any insightful ideas as to why this is so?

Edit: Let me expand on this a little: Why are so few females interested in ANYTHING related to computers (includes creating music, making movies, programming, etc).

[JohnSmithXTREME]

because too many nerdy guys like computers

[BasketofPuppies]

The pink iPod mini is always the first to sell out. Women can't be that uninterested in computers.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
The pink iPod mini is always the first to sell out. Women can't be that uninterested in computers.

That's got nothing to do with what I'm talking about. They buy the mini's for the music it can play. There's no difference between that and a walkman. Now, if one of those girls were to make some program/utility that interfaces with the iPod, or if they were to create music using some program like Reason for her iPod, then I'd be surprised. But so far I don't know of a single girl who does anything like that.

[Wiskedjak]

Why are so few guys interested in figure skating?

[itistoday]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Why are so few guys interested in figure skating?

Take a look at the Winter Olympics, there's a LOT. But that's not really an answer to the question. Are you trying to say that computers are a "guy thing"?

[i_rooster]

Why do most men not like to do knitting in their spare time?

[itistoday]

Originally posted by i_rooster:
Why do most men not like to do knitting in their spare time?

Because it's ****ing boring. Now, your turn, give me an actual reason to why most girls aren't interested in computers.

[i_rooster]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Because it's ****ing boring. Now, your turn, give me an actual reason to why most girls aren't interested in computers.

Sticky keyboards due to the male that used it before them?

[itistoday]

Originally posted by i_rooster:
Sticky keyboards due to the male that used it before them?

Who jerks off onto their keyboard?

j/k

[i_rooster]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Who jerks off onto their keyboard?

j/k

LOL! I was thinking of drooling.

[dreilly1]

As the proud husband of a fellow geek, I can confidentally state that there are plenty of women who are interested in computers.

But they are less likely to want to spend ALL their time with computers. They generally have other interests. The people who spend all day working with computers, then go home and spend all night playing on computers, and have all of their meaningful social relationships through the computer tend to be men. (Which is why these men can't usually find meaningful relationships with women -- they hang out in different places.)

And how do you judge who is "into computers", anyway? Would you judge her solely by the size of her (computer) rack? Or her m4d 4ax0r s|<11z? Is someone who codes for a living but not willing to spend time after work hours hacking her iPod 'not into computers' by your definition?

And the notion that one has to be into computers to make music is ridiculous. But I don't think that's quite what you meant....

[Albert Pujols]

Probably for the same reason girls don't like video games. (I don't know the reason )

Although they don't seem interested in computers, teenaged girls probably spend a lot more time on computers than teenaged boys.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Are you trying to say that computers are a "guy thing"?

Yes. Girls don't always like things guys like and guys don't always like things girls like. Besides, the Internet probably isn't one of the best venues to find the answer to your question.

[macintologist]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Because it's ****ing boring. Now, your turn, give me an actual reason to why most girls aren't interested in computers.

You'll find women interested in the graphic arts and such. My aunt is a reprographics specialist and a Photoshop king er...queen.

Lots of women work at MacAddict.

Society puts pressures on us based on sex. Men are pressured into being more into sciences and math.

Look at figures for Liberal Arts colleges. Usually it's 55% women 45% men, sometimes even a greater disparity. Most LAC's focus on the humanities which women are more interested in than men.

In music, many more men are interested in jazz, playing jazz piano, jazz trumpet, you name it. Why is that when women are more interested in classical and folk rock? Has to do with image and society pressures.

Why is it that women are more inclined to play smaller instruments. Look at how many women play flute, oboe, clarinet, violin, viola, compared to men figures playing tuba, trombone, saxophone, double bass and percussion.

Is it that women are biologically more inclined to be gentler? What about the selfish gene? Or the theory of individual selection? (See Lucifer Principle) Women could be less inclined to play electric guitar and drums due to the rough and tempered nature of the instruments. You'll find women in rock usually singing. Exceptions like the heavy metal band "Kittie" are existent.

Most famous composers are men. In fact, the only famous non-male classical composer must be Robert Schumann's wife Clara Schumann (19th century). There many female contemporary composers like Alex Shapiro and Joan Tower, but they are 2nd or 3rd tier composers, or lower.

What about famous women conductors? Why is it that all the top conductors are male? The only exception I know of is the conductor for the Colorado Symphony. She is a big lesbian women with a male demeanor. Is that what it takes for a woman to succeed in the business? Perhaps?

I wouldn't find too many women into computers in the way you're describing because society has deemed computers and electronics to be a male category, in much the same way makeup, cooking and Martha Stewart is for women.

There's no easy way to explain this, but there is hypocrisy.

Women who do more male things aren't seen as manish or lebian, whereas if guys get involved in women issues, they are labeled as gay or effeminate.

Avril Lavigne is considered by many to be hot, yet she is taking on the male anti-feminist stereotype or something with her sudo-gothic style.

There's no easy explanation, but just accept it.

Edit: tragic mistake corrected.

[sugar_coated]

Maternal instincts makes them think more about nursing their hypothetical babies.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by dreilly1:
As the proud husband of a fellow geek, I can confidentally state that there are plenty of women who are interested in computers.

But they are less likely to want to spend ALL their time with computers. They generally have other interests. The people who spend all day working with computers, then go home and spend all night playing on computers, and have all of their meaningful social relationships through the computer tend to be men. (Which is why these men can't usually find meaningful relationships with women -- they hang out in different places.)

And how do you judge who is "into computers", anyway? Would you judge her solely by the size of her (computer) rack? Or her m4d 4ax0r s|<11z? Is someone who codes for a living but not willing to spend time after work hours hacking her iPod 'not into computers' by your definition?

I suppose my definition is someone who actually enjoys creating something on the computer. But this definition has problems of course, because you could counter with a female writer that uses Word to create a book. Perhaps I mean things that could be counted as "geek". Like, someone who is passionate about creating art using photoshop, making electronic music, creating websites, digital media (films, etc), and programming.

And the notion that one has to be into computers to make music is ridiculous. But I don't think that's quite what you meant....

You're right, I don't mean that. I mean someone who really appreciates and understands how computers work (either hardware or software). Someone who understands computers themselves, and doesn't simply just use the software that runs on them as a tool. So even girls that make electronic music wouldn't neccessarily fall under this category.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by macintologist:
You'll find women interested in the graphic arts and such. My aunt is a reprographics specialist and a Photoshop king er...queen.

Lots of women work at MacAddict.

Society puts pressures on us based on sex. Men are pressured into being more into sciences and math.

Look at figures for Liberal Arts colleges. Usually it's 55% women 45% men, sometimes even a greater disparity. Most LAC's focus on the humanities which women are more interested in than men.

In music, many more men are interested in jazz, playing jazz piano, jazz trumpet, you name it. Why is that when women are more interested in classical and folk rock? Has to do with image and society pressures.

Why is it that women are more inclined to play smaller instruments. Look at how many women play flute, oboe, clarinet, violin, viola, compared to men figures playing tuba, trombone, saxophone, double bass and percussion.

Is it that women are biologically more inclined to be gentler? What about the selfish gene? Or the theory of individual selection? (See Lucifer Principle) Women could be less inclined to play electric guitar and drums due to the rough and tempered nature of the instruments. You'll find women in rock usually singing. Exceptions like the heavy metal band "Kittie" are existent.

Most famous composers are men. In fact, the only famous non-male classical composer must be either Ira Gershwin or Alex Schumann's wife Clara Schumann (19th century)

What about famous women conductors? Why is it that all the top conductors are male? The only exception I know of is the conductor for the Colorado Symphony. She is a big lesbian women with a male demeanor. Is that what it takes for a woman to succeed in the business? Perhaps?

I wouldn't find too many women into computers in the way you're describing because society has deemed computers and electronics to be a male category, in much the same way makeup, cooking and Martha Stewart is for women.

There's no easy way to explain this, but there is hypocrisy.

Women who do more male things aren't seen as manish or lebian, whereas if guys get involved in women issues, they are labeled as gay or effeminate.

Avril Lavigne is considered by many to be hot, yet she is taking on the male anti-feminist stereotype or something with her sudo-gothic style.

There's no easy explanation, but just accept it.

Yes, I think you're hitting the nail on the head there. That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Not just computers, but conductors, composers-heck, even artists. Why is it that most women just "stand by their man"? Who came up with this? You say "it's society", but it has to be traced back to somewhere, there has to be more of a reason than that. I can't simply accept an answer like "society" because there are many different societies out there, and all of them have this characteristic. Maybe it's genetic?

[Sherwin]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Edit: Let me expand on this a little: Why are so few females interested in ANYTHING related to computers (includes creating music, making movies, programming, etc).

Dude, shut up, don't give them ideas. Not until someone invents iWashUp or iCook or something.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Take a look at the Winter Olympics, there's a LOT. But that's not really an answer to the question. Are you trying to say that computers are a "guy thing"?

Why are there so many female English majors and so few male?
Why are there so many male Engineering majors and so few female?
Why are there so many male Math majors and so few female?

Some say it's because of the chemistry of our brain, others say it's social (males "get" male professors... so naturally they gravitate to those people)

[rozwado1]

I blame Estrogen.

[Brass]

Originally posted by macintologist:
You'll find women interested in the graphic arts and such. My aunt is a reprographics specialist and a Photoshop king er...queen.

Lots of women work at MacAddict.

Society puts pressures on us based on sex. Men are pressured into being more into sciences and math.

Look at figures for Liberal Arts colleges. Usually it's 55% women 45% men, sometimes even a greater disparity. Most LAC's focus on the humanities which women are more interested in than men.

In music, many more men are interested in jazz, playing jazz piano, jazz trumpet, you name it. Why is that when women are more interested in classical and folk rock? Has to do with image and society pressures.

Why is it that women are more inclined to play smaller instruments. Look at how many women play flute, oboe, clarinet, violin, viola, compared to men figures playing tuba, trombone, saxophone, double bass and percussion.

Is it that women are biologically more inclined to be gentler? What about the selfish gene? Or the theory of individual selection? (See Lucifer Principle) Women could be less inclined to play electric guitar and drums due to the rough and tempered nature of the instruments. You'll find women in rock usually singing. Exceptions like the heavy metal band "Kittie" are existent.

Most famous composers are men. In fact, the only famous non-male classical composer must be either Ira Gershwin or Alex Schumann's wife Clara Schumann (19th century)

What about famous women conductors? Why is it that all the top conductors are male? The only exception I know of is the conductor for the Colorado Symphony. She is a big lesbian women with a male demeanor. Is that what it takes for a woman to succeed in the business? Perhaps?

I wouldn't find too many women into computers in the way you're describing because society has deemed computers and electronics to be a male category, in much the same way makeup, cooking and Martha Stewart is for women.

There's no easy way to explain this, but there is hypocrisy.

Women who do more male things aren't seen as manish or lebian, whereas if guys get involved in women issues, they are labeled as gay or effeminate.

Avril Lavigne is considered by many to be hot, yet she is taking on the male anti-feminist stereotype or something with her sudo-gothic style.

There's no easy explanation, but just accept it.

The Nazis reasoned this way. They aimed to prove it by treating boys and girls exactly the same from birth onwards (amongst many other bizarre experiments playing with peole's lives). Didn't work out in the end.

You just have to face it, men and women are different and the differences are more than just physical. The differences are also very hard to define precisely, and vary widely such that they even overlap across the sexes. This is just part of the intricate and fascinating fabric of life.

In this particular case, I would guess that women are more interested in relationships than men are, and men are more interested in tools than are women. Of course that's just generalisation. Not ALL men or ALL women fit neatly into any box (or indeed ANY men or women - we are all more complicated than that).

[itistoday]

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Why are there so many female English majors and so few male?
Why are there so many male Engineering majors and so few female?
Why are there so many male Math majors and so few female?

Some say it's because of the chemistry of our brain, others say it's social (males "get" male professors... so naturally they gravitate to those people)

I think the only way to find out would be to observe the behaviors of children before societal "pressures" have gotten ahold of them. But then again, our bodies change a lot chemically and physically after puberty, so maybe the change also happens there? Gah! Why?????

[itistoday]

Originally posted by Brass:
In this particular case, I would guess that women are more interested in relationships than men are, and men are more interested in tools than are women. Of course that's just generalisation.

Yes, but why dammit??? Is it chemical? Is it societal? If it's societal why is it so and not the other way around? Can it have anything to do with survival in the wild (evolution)?

[Jim Paradise]

There are a lot of women who are into computers, but perhaps just in a different way than some of the guys you know who are into computers.

When I was much younger, it wasn't my dad who was into computers and doing Clais/AppleWorks presentations for Apple, teaching me HyperCard, or getting the last KidPix editions for me to create with. When I was in high school, the teacher who designed and ran the graphics design program was a woman. When my girlfriend has to move (co-op student), the last thing she packs is her computer. We can sit around and geek out playing vid games and have a good lazy afternoon together. One of my best friends is in her own way an Apple geek, but she's a lot more subtle about it.

I don't mean to be insulting when I say this, but perhaps you just haven't met a varied amount of women in your life so far? There are lots that enjoy computers and technology.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Yes, but why dammit??? Is it chemical? Is it societal? If it's societal why is it so and not the other way around? Can it have anything to do with survival in the wild (evolution)?

You don't honestly think you're going to find that answer here, do you? These are questions that have been asked ever since men have been trying to impress women. Very few have discovered the answer.

[sugar_coated]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Yes, but why dammit??? Is it chemical? Is it societal? If it's societal why is it so and not the other way around? Can it have anything to do with survival in the wild (evolution)?

Adult onset attention deficit disorder.

[itistoday]

Ok, I think I might have a reason. I asked myself, "What if women were like men?"

Would you guys date a woman who acted like a man? Would you find that attractive? Even if you did, would the relationship last? Or would it end in competative battles? Imagine that right now your body changed into that of a womans. Would you want to get fscked by a guy? Of course not! (Unless you're gay)

So that's probably why. Back in the day, when we were all monkeys, and maybe even before that, the female had to act the way a female does, so that her personality is attractive to that of the males. It is a submissive personality, a caring personality that watches the kids, one that allows herself to be dominated by a man and get fuX0r3d; to ensure the survival of the species.

Evolution, my friends, is the key to this riddle!

[Captain Obvious]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Why are so few guys interested in figure skating?

I'd do Sasha Cohen



Anyway, females in general aren't into technology related hobbies. I don't know any girl who has a $1500 stereo system or $4k TV.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by Jim Paradise:
There are a lot of women who are into computers, but perhaps just in a different way than some of the guys you know who are into computers.

When I was much younger, it wasn't my dad who was into computers and doing Clais/AppleWorks presentations for Apple, teaching me HyperCard, or getting the last KidPix editions for me to create with. When I was in high school, the teacher who designed and ran the graphics design program was a woman. When my girlfriend has to move (co-op student), the last thing she packs is her computer. We can sit around and geek out playing vid games and have a good lazy afternoon together. One of my best friends is in her own way an Apple geek, but she's a lot more subtle about it.

I don't mean to be insulting when I say this, but perhaps you just haven't met a varied amount of women in your life so far? There are lots that enjoy computers and technology.

Well, I'll concede that I'm young, but I've met a lot of girls. My high school has over 3,500 students in it, and like I said, I don't really know any female (teacher or student) that has a profound interest in computers. And like macintologist pointed out, it's not just computers, it's a lot more things like Directing, Composing, etc. Perhaps you know several girls that have those interests, but maybe that's because you actively seek them out. Don't tell me that were you live the majority of females aren't interested in shopping but rather programming, or making films, or making music, or...

I'm sorry, but this is simply a fact, most girls don't go out independantly creating stuff. If they did, then your history book would be filled with them.

[Brass]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Yes, but why dammit??? Is it chemical? Is it societal? If it's societal why is it so and not the other way around? Can it have anything to do with survival in the wild (evolution)?

It's simply genetic. I don't think it's evolution, but I'm sure most people here would say you can't have one without the other.

[Oneota]

Originally posted by macintologist:
Most famous composers are men. In fact, the only famous non-male classical composer must be either Ira Gershwin or Alex Schumann's wife Clara Schumann (19th century)

Umm...WTF?

Ira Gershwin was George Gershwin's brother. And who the heck is Alex Schumann? You mean Robert Schumann, right?

(And at least one other famous female composer besides Clara Schumann was Amy Beach:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Beach.

A whole list of others is here:
http://www.classicalarchives.com/women.html )

[Brass]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Back in the day, when we were all monkeys, and maybe even before that, the female had to act the way a female does, so that her personality is attractive to that of the males.

Speak for yourself... I've never been a monkey!

[itistoday]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Ok, I think I might have a reason. I asked myself, "What if women were like men?"

Would you guys date a woman who acted like a man? Would you find that attractive? Even if you did, would the relationship last? Or would it end in competative battles? Imagine that right now your body changed into that of a womans. Would you want to get fscked by a guy? Of course not! (Unless you're gay)

So that's probably why. Back in the day, when we were all monkeys, and maybe even before that, the female had to act the way a female does, so that her personality is attractive to that of the males. It is a submissive personality, a caring personality that watches the kids, one that allows herself to be dominated by a man and get fuX0r3d; to ensure the survival of the species.

Evolution, my friends, is the key to this riddle!

No, wait you idiot. What does that have to do with the urge to create things? Why is it usually the men, throughout history, who create the greatest classical masterpieces? Why do men dominate Directors roles in movies?

[historylme]

Technically, not one of us were ever a monkey.

You say that your high school is over 3K, and you know all of the people? And how many are girls? I bet you don't know half of them nor their interest.

And you will never know them all. Besides, it's high school. You haven't even been through college, it is there that you will meet the more colorful females that you're inquiring about.

[sugar_coated]

Originally posted by history1me:
Technically, not one of us were ever monkey.

The most agreeable statement of the day!

[d4nth3m4n]

Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
The pink iPod mini is always the first to sell out. Women can't be that uninterested in computers.

no no no, you have it all wrong, the pink minis sold out so damn fast because all us nerdy techie guys finally had something cool to buy our girlfriends.

that's why, nothing really to do with interest.

hell, i fell for it.

[historylme]

What can I say, English is not my first language.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by history1me:
Technically, not one of us were ever a monkey.

You say that your high school is over 3K, and you know all of the people? And how many are girls? I bet you don't know half of them nor their interest.

And you will never know them all. Besides, it's high school. You haven't even been through college, it is there that you will meet the more colorful females that you're inquiring about.

Oh I'm sure I'll meet some there. And you're right, I don't know everyone of the girls at my school. But I know a lot, and that's enough. Are you trying to suggest that the portion of the girls at my school that I don't know really are mostly girls that like to create stuff? Because that would be wrong.

And I don't need to go to college to state this either, I can just look at history. So tell me, what percentage of the girls at your college (or wherever it is that you go) are girls that have some great creative interest? Girls that play lots of computer games don't count, since they are simply users, not makers. My iTunes collection also speaks for itself. The vast majority of the bands that I have, have music that was created by males (and I have a very wide range of musical tastes, from rap to rock to classical to jazz to techno to oldies). How many female classical composers can you name? Does Britney Spears write her own music? What percentage of film directors are female?

Sure, there are plenty of exceptions that you could name, but they really are small compared to the male population that does that same thing.

[C.A.T.S. CEO]

Too bizy having $e*

[macintologist]

Originally posted by Oneota:
Umm...WTF?

Ira Gershwin was George Gershwin's brother. And who the heck is Alex Schumann? You mean Robert Schumann, right?

(And at least one other famous female composer besides Clara Schumann was Amy Beach:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Beach.

A whole list of others is here:
http://www.classicalarchives.com/women.html )

Tragic mistake corrected

[Jim Paradise]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Well, I'll concede that I'm young, but I've met a lot of girls. My high school has over 3,500 students in it, and like I said, I don't really know any female (teacher or student) that has a profound interest in computers. And like macintologist pointed out, it's not just computers, it's a lot more things like Directing, Composing, etc. Perhaps you know several girls that have those interests, but maybe that's because you actively seek them out. Don't tell me that were you live the majority of females aren't interested in shopping but rather programming, or making films, or making music, or...

I'm sorry, but this is simply a fact, most girls don't go out independantly creating stuff. If they did, then your history book would be filled with them.

History's had plenty of incredibly creative women, and while you may not know many independently creative ones, I've been lucky enough to know quite an amount. I'd go so far as to say that most girls I've known are quite independently creative.

But in what I was saying earlier about how when I was younger having a mother who taught me computers, that the high school graphic design program was designed by a woman, were samples of me not seeking out ladies into technlogy. It happens to be a bonus that my girlfriend enjoys computers, but that's not why I go out with her.

I realize that you're saying there are lots of women who aren't into computers, but what I'm trying to say is that there are a lot more than you think, and that I'm sure as you get older you'll meet some of them. To be honest, I find it a little odd that you haven't yet, but perhaps I've just been lucky in knowing women all my life who've been into computers, and many incredibly creative ones. Like I said, you'll meet them as you get older, too.

[historylme]

Originally posted by itistoday:
Oh I'm sure I'll meet some there. And you're right, I don't know everyone of the girls at my school. But I know a lot, and that's enough. Are you trying to suggest that the portion of the girls at my school that I don't know really are mostly girls that like to create stuff? Because that would be wrong.

And I don't need to go to college to state this either, I can just look at history. So tell me, what percentage of the girls at your college (or wherever it is that you go) are girls that have some great creative interest? Girls that play lots of computer games don't count, since they are simply users, not makers. My iTunes collection also speaks for itself. The vast majority of the bands that I have, have music that was created by males (and I have a very wide range of musical tastes, from rap to rock to classical to jazz to techno to oldies). How many female classical composers can you name? Does Britney Spears write her own music? What percentage of film directors are female?

Sure, there are plenty of exceptions that you could name, but they really are small compared to the male population that does that same thing.

So you have the answer you will believe, cool, groovy. I'm not here change your mind, nor do I want to.

One question: Why are you so angry?

You didn't to start a thread you knew the answer to? Or did you just want to argue for attention?

[itistoday]

Originally posted by Jim Paradise:
History's had plenty of incredibly creative women, and while you may not know many independently creative ones, I've been lucky enough to know quite an amount. I'd go so far as to say that most girls I've known are quite independently creative.

But in what I was saying earlier about how when I was younger having a mother who taught me computers, that the high school graphic design program was designed by a woman, were samples of me not seeking out ladies into technlogy. It happens to be a bonus that my girlfriend enjoys computers, but that's not why I go out with her.

I realize that you're saying there are lots of women who aren't into computers, but what I'm trying to say is that there are a lot more than you think, and that I'm sure as you get older you'll meet some of them. To be honest, I find it a little odd that you haven't yet, but perhaps I've just been lucky in knowing women all my life who've been into computers, and many incredibly creative ones. Like I said, you'll meet them as you get older, too.

I hope you're right about that

But I still think that you've just been incredibly lucky. I can't imagine 98% of the girls I know today ever becoming creatively inclined; ever making a film, a book, a song, or a program. And how many famous female classical composers or artists can you name? Or modern female directors? I'm pretty sure it was a statistic somewhere I read that the computer industry was primarily dominated by males.

But then again, you live in Canada, and I live in Florida, so something might be said of that

[itistoday]

Originally posted by history1me:
So you have the answer you will believe, cool, groovy. I'm not here change your mind, nor do I want to.

One question: Why are you so angry?

You didn't to start a thread you knew the answer to? Or did you just want to argue for attention?

No I still don't really have the answer to my question. I came up with that evolution post after I posted the thread originally, but I still fail to see why that would affect their creative interests. Why am I so angry? Because I don't like that I have plenty of male friends that I can have active conversations about my interests, but so few females. No, I didn't start this thread for attention—that would make me a loser

[Jim Paradise]

Originally posted by itistoday:
I hope you're right about that

But I still think that you've just been incredibly lucky. I can't imagine 98% of the girls I know today ever becoming creatively inclined; ever making a film, a book, a song, or a program. And how many famous female classical composers or artists can you name? Or modern female directors? I'm pretty sure it was a statistic somewhere I read that the computer industry was primarily dominated by males.

But then again, you live in Canada, and I live in Florida, so something might be said of that

I always have opera season tickets, and while there may not be many classical composers that were famous women, I've seen plenty of incredibly talented female singers and musicians throughout my life. This also extends to all the female musician friends I have.

Being in Florida might have something to do with it, but to give another example, a friend of mine lived in Florida for some years before moving to Alabama. She did grow up in England for the first portion of her life, but she ended up working rock concerts when she lived in Florida and Alabama. While she wasn't a musician, she had an incredibly creative mind, got to work with some very interesting technology when touring and doing shows, and certainly was a girl into tech stuff that many people I know wouldn't have a clue about.

Sofia Coppola comes to mind as a recent example of an acclaimed female director. Like I said previously, there are many incredibly talented and creative women.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by Jim Paradise:
I always have opera season tickets, and while there may not be many classical composers that were famous women, I've seen plenty of incredibly talented female singers and musicians throughout my life. This also extends to all the female musician friends I have.

Being in Florida might have something to do with it, but to give another example, a friend of mine lived in Florida for some years before moving to Alabama. She did grow up in England for the first portion of her life, but she ended up working rock concerts when she lived in Florida and Alabama. While she wasn't a musician, she had an incredibly creative mind, got to work with some very interesting technology when touring and doing shows, and certainly was a girl into tech stuff that many people I know wouldn't have a clue about.

Sofia Coppola comes to mind as a recent example of an acclaimed female director. Like I said previously, there are many incredibly talented and creative women.

I'm not denying that there are many talented and creative women. I'm just saying that they are few and wide between. It doesn't matter if you know Sally Sue who makes music on the Kazoo. The vast majority of women do not *create* things. There are many female singers, but how many female composers?

[Oneota]

Originally posted by itistoday:
And how many famous female classical composers or artists can you name?

I just gave you a whole list of 'em a few posts ago! There've been quite a few. Not many who achieved the same level of fame as Beethoven or Mozart or Robert Schumann, true, but history is replete with talented female composers.

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Good luck.

It's been my experience that tech girls are hard to come by. The ones that I found were cool, but usually had other interest than what I wanted to pursue and thus no constant dialogues remained. Uhm, perhaps I should re-evaluate somethings.

They're some interesting groups here, perhaps you might find some that fall in your interests.
www.meetup.com

[demograph68]