[Wiskedjak]

Whether created by humans or something else, these things are absolutely fascinating. Their scale, precision, complexity and the speed with which they appear (over-night) are amazing. They're almost more fascinating if created by humans.

Why is there not more discussion about them? Are they simply not interesting, is it because the flakes of our world have jumped all over them or do they challenge our understandings so much that the only way we can reconcile that challenge is to ignore the circles?

Thoughts?

http://www.jp-petit.com/nouv_f/Crop%...ions/crop7.jpg

[waxcrash]

It's humans.

[Stradlater]

http://www.viceland.com/issues/v11n1.../surface/1.jpg

[xeo sez: funny but too big]

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by waxcrash:
It's humans.

Perhaps, but that only makes them more fascinating. I think the easier answer is to say that they're created by aliens. How are these people creating such large, complex and precise patterns in the span of a night and not be noticed?

[Stradlater]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
How are these people creating such large, complex and precise patterns in the span of a night and not be noticed?

The same way Hello Kitty was made a few miles from Stonehenge.

[ManOfSteal]

I blame the farmers.

[sugar_coated]

Many crop circles are made by some unknown agents.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Stradlater:
The same way Hello Kitty was made a few miles from Stonehenge.

That one took 16 hours of work and months of planning and is only a fraction the size and complexity of some of the biggest circles

[Stradlater]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
That one took 16 hours of work and months of planning and is only a fraction the size and complexity of some of the biggest circles

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2191565.stm

Humans.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Stradlater:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2191565.stm

Humans.

Have I argued against it being humans? I'd just like to know how they do it. So far, none of those claiming responsibility have been able to explain how they created the largest as most complex circles ...

[Stradlater]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Have I argued against it being humans? I'd just like to know how they do it.

Ummm...did you read the article? It explains one of the methods.

There are surely other ways, too. Google is a good friend.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Stradlater:
Ummm...did you read the article? It explains one of the methods.

There are surely other ways, too. Google is a good friend.

I'm familiar with the technique. But to create some of the largest in the course of an evening using that technique would be rather difficult

[Stradlater]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
I'm familiar with the technique. But to create some of the largest in the course of an evening using that technique would be rather difficult

With enough people and a few nightly visits of preplanning, I don't see it being much of a problem. These things also roll in a lot of dough for some farmers, who could technically commission the work while denying knowledge of it to their visitors.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Stradlater:
With enough people and a few nightly visits of preplanning, I don't see it being much of a problem. These things also roll in a lot of dough for some farmers, who could technically commission the work while denying knowledge of it to their visitors.

Ok, thanks for you explanation.

[Mediaman_12]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Whether created by humans or something else, these things are absolutely fascinating. Their scale, precision, complexity and the speed with which they appear (over-night) are amazing. They're almost more fascinating if created by humans.

Why is there not more discussion about them? Are they simply not interesting, is it because the flakes of our world have jumped all over them or do they challenge our understandings so much that the only way we can reconcile that challenge is to ignore the circles?

Thoughts?

http://www.jp-petit.com/nouv_f/Crop%...ions/crop7.jpg

Yawn! Milk Hill 2001.
Circles from 2004, way more complex and equally as big.

Of they where done by Aliens then the complex ones would be more evenly spread around the globe. Instead 99% of them are in a smallish section of the south of England.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Mediaman_12:
Yawn! Milk Hill 2001.
Circles from 2004, way more complex and equally as big.

Of they where done by Aliens then the complex ones would be more evenly spread around the globe. Instead 99% of them are in a smallish section of the south of England.

As human creations, I think the circles rival Christo's work and deserve some form of recognition rather than ridicule. I think it's unfortunate that the same fringe that cling to UFO's has made them such a "out there" thing that you never see them on the news. It's almost as if those that are not a part of the fringe ignore their existence simply to avoid any association with that fringe.

[meelk]

Well, as being part of this apparent "fringe", let me tell you as an air force brat who lived on military installations for 18 years, that you will know a ufo when you see one. I myself had a sighting with my mother and younger brother, and there is nothing like seeing what you would qualify as a craft definitely alien in origin "doing its thing".
That being said, I will say that I do believe some, but decidely not all crop circles are somewhat alien in origin. Some of them, as the original poster states, are simply too large and complex for a group of people to be doing in the dark without utterly destroying the rest of the field. Not to mention some of these formations would require a legion of M.I.T. graduates to do properly, look at the scale of them, and their exacting precision.

[meelk]

Just as an aside, and to make a point:
This formation, from 2002, spans * 700 feet * yes, seven-hundred.
http://www.circlemakers.org/Img/stonehenge_02.jpg

[i_rooster]

May be there is a secret technique to do this with "exacting precision'?

[meelk]

You tell me. The larger circles on tv the fields simply look as if the grain or whatever it was just decided to lie down, vs the created ones I've seen on tv, where it looks trampled (which the people creating it essentially do, with a board and string).

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by i_rooster:
May be there is a secret technique to do this with "exacting precision'?

Exactly. Almost as fascinating as the circles is how quickly some choose to dismiss them. Regardless of who is making them, it doesn't appear that anyone other than the makers understands exactly how they were made with such precision in such limited time. And, even once we do understand how they are made, they are still quite fascinating from both artistic and mathematical perspectives.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by i_rooster:
May be there is a secret technique to do this with "exacting precision'?

Yeah, it's called a transit.