Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

RonnieoftheRose · Mar 19, 2005, 09:01 PM

I have some questions.

1. Do epic romances, or even any real romance, really exist or do people go with each other because they want financial security, success, to get laid and to show off?

2. Do girls prefer cunning arseholes and if so how do I become one?

3. Do soulmates or twin souls exist? I have been in a lot of pain over this for several years now about someone. I can't explain it, don't want to really as it's my personal secret, but it just seems like my secret has leaked by none of my own doing and people have been trying to...kill me off possibly.

4. How can you be sure a girl loves or has any feelings for you?

5. How far would you go for love?

demograph68 · Mar 19, 2005, 09:22 PM

#5 is tricky. I've been in miserable relationship before I met my current girlfriend. It's not perfect of course though I try to make the best of it.

RonnieoftheRose · Mar 19, 2005, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by demograph68:
#5 is tricky. I've been in miserable relationship before I met my current girlfriend. It's not perfect of course though I try to make the best of it.

Would you like to share how far you would go for love?

Also, another question. Why do we need love? Is it for our own sake or something grander?

demograph68 · Mar 19, 2005, 09:42 PM

Well, I once drove 300 miles to see someone that I was in love with. We talked about it and came to the conclusion that it wouldn't work out. We're still friends. It was hard for me to accept it in the beginning but it was worth it.
Love isn't necessarily good for everyone. For a while i thought that I'd never have a relationship with someone. It wasn't so important to me as say just having a friend or two that I could relate to. Though being the hermit that I once was, it was just natural for me.

RonnieoftheRose · Mar 19, 2005, 09:51 PM

I gave up on the idea of love a decade ago but then it came looking for me and me looking for it. The journey has literally been almost halfway across the world. I don't understand one thing though. There are days when I'm sure of what's going on and then days when I feel I should give up on everything but then all I would have to look forward to in life is work and money. No love and no feeling of being alive. This girl is so important to me and I don't think she knows. Maybe it's because I'm drunk right now and feeling negative. Maybe it's other people. Without her, without her presence and her smile, I'm...how do you put that feeling in words?

JohnSmithXTREME · Mar 19, 2005, 09:59 PM

1. "Epic Romances" exist for those who believe they exist. For most normal people, I would assume that this is not the case.

2. No, girls like somebody who can get the job done, but not an asshole.

3. who knows

4. Start a dialogue- talk to a girl to discover her feelings for you

5. Money & Sex aren't the only important things in our lives. Loyalty is very important as well. To that end, you should be ready to make many personal sacrifices if you want to keep a relationships going. How far you want to go depends on the circumstances.

DeathMan · Mar 20, 2005, 01:08 AM

I would do anything for love, but I won't do that.

TubaMuffins · Mar 20, 2005, 03:08 AM

1. yes if you believe in it

2. girls enjoy the arseholes but prefer the real men

3. no, only compatibility

4. ask her...indirectly (hint: body language)

5. wouldn't give my life Romeo style or even all my possesions and money, but i could give a lot

Captain Obvious · Mar 20, 2005, 04:18 AM

1. Yes, they do but they are unstable and tend to have very high highs and very low lows. They are ruled by illogical passions that are always short lived or are cyclical but always end in failure. Maturity tends to lend logic to the equation and with that security and maximizing the benefits of the relationship become more important.

2. Yes, they do. But I prefer the term calculating to cunning.

3. Yes, they do but the existence of one does not mean that they are the person who is best suited to be your mate.

4. Depends on the girl.

5. Enough to buy expensive jewelry but not far enough to base my career and subsequent life in New York despite the ocean front house in Monmouth county that would be provided by her parents.

11011001 · Mar 20, 2005, 04:36 AM

#5 Well, I went all the way to the opposite side of the planet to the most foreign and alien environment I have ever experienced. (I live in Canada, she lives in S. Korea) It was also my first time out of the country, and my first time on a plane. Best experience and decision I have ever made. How far would I go in the future? Well, perhaps as far as doing my grad studies over there. O.O

Someday when I come to rule the world, they will make an epic, highly exaggerated movie out of this.

I don't believe in the epic romances of movies and books, they are too exaggerated. But I do think their is some truth and possibility in them.

As far as soul mates go perhaps they are predetermined, or perhaps they form as we grow closer and closer to someone, until we become so in-sync with them that we almost become one person. But, what does it mean to be a soul mate anyways?

Gah.. I'll probably regret this post :/

roberto blanco · Mar 20, 2005, 05:01 AM

1. people go with each other, because they provide whatever the other person needs (a lot of time that will be financial security etc.)

2. it's far more important to be yourself. girls tend to like (among other things) looks, smarts (not neccessarily "book-smarts"), money and power (in that order). but then, only if you know what you really want, you'll get what you need in the end.

3. no

4. eventually, when she tries to "communicate" with you a lot. there are many things...looks, gestures...and of course when you try to get "intimate". you'll find out pretty quickly.

5. don't worry about it. for me personally i have pretty much adopted the philosophy of either it "works", or i move on.

nredman · Mar 20, 2005, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by RonnieoftheRose:
I have some questions.

1) real romance exists, more so when you first meet the person...keeping the romance going is the hard part.

2) some do - most don't

3) soulmates - don't know - i'd say yes (only cause i am married) - there is someone out there for everyone - that doesnt mean they are your soulmate or perfect match.

4) you will know it when it is real

5) you shouldn't have to do much for love, if it is true love its easy

ghporter · Mar 20, 2005, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by RonnieoftheRose:
I have some questions.

1. Epics of any sort are intense because of their extremes. REAL romances may have epic chapters, but they usually settle down into real life without such extremes. Sure, there's the occasional quarrel, but that's not the kind of extreme you find in these "epic romances."

2. Girls are immature and thus not really the subject here. Mature women prefer mature men who are complete persons. Arseholes of any type, cunning or not, are not nice to have around and anyone who cultivates such characteristics finds out that their acquaintances have them figured pretty quickly.

3. Yes. Few and far between, but yes.

4. How can you be sure a girl loves or has any feelings for you? It depends on so many things that I'm tempted to say that it's different for every relationship.

5. I have traveled far and wide to be with my soulmate. We've been married for over 25 years now, and I'll walk straight into Hell for her if necessary.