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Dimethyltrypt · Mar 21, 2005, 06:31 PM

Just in, no links yet.
CNN.

goMac · Mar 21, 2005, 06:35 PM

Any more info for us?

Dimethyltrypt · Mar 21, 2005, 06:36 PM

-- Six people died and up to 12 were wounded when a student went on a shooting rampage in Minnesota, a fire official said.

only detail avail.

goMac · Mar 21, 2005, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Dimethyltrypt:
-- Six people died and up to 12 were wounded when a student went on a shooting rampage in Minnesota, a fire official said.

only detail avail.

Thanks.

My university decided that TV is bad for all us college students so we don't have cable, otherwise I would have turned on CNN.

nredman · Mar 21, 2005, 06:42 PM

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_arti...?storyid=77079

A shooting Monday afternoon on the Red Lake Indian Reservation has left eight people dead.

FBI Special Agent Paul McCabe says there were two shootings taking place about one hour apart.

The first took place at the residence of the shooter�s grandparents. The grandfather is a former police officer and it is believed the shooter used his guns. Both victims were taken to a hospital, where they died.

The shooter then headed to the Red Lake High School where he killed six people, including a teacher and a security guard.

McCabe said he believed the shooter was among the dead, he wouldn�t say more than that there was evidence indicating the shooter was dead.

Dimethyltrypt · Mar 21, 2005, 07:01 PM

**** this kid... send him in the death row right now. no ****ing court for him. nothing. just death.

Mar 21, 2005, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Dimethyltrypt:
**** this kid... send him in the death row right now. no ****ing court for him. nothing. just death.

Unfortunately for you, he already killed himself.

simonjames · Mar 21, 2005, 07:40 PM

Completely off-topic and I apologise for it ahead but....

I was at a party with a bunch of teacher friends the other day and someone said that there are some schools in the States where the teacher stands at the front of the class in a section that is caged off from the students and that the teachers have a separate entrance/exit to the class and that all of the door's locks are controlled from a central security area. All to keep the teachers safe. Is this true? No state name was given but to me it sounds extreme plus unworkable plus why would a teacher work in an environment that was so hostile?

Macfreak7 · Mar 21, 2005, 07:45 PM

We are living in a dark age. It's not just confined to this one guy, or that other guy who went crazy in a church, or anyone else elsewhere. Society today is in a degenerated situation. But not many are brave enough to admit to it, but we'd rather rationalize our way out of it.
Pathetically depressing.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 21, 2005, 07:49 PM

Guns don't kill people, teenagers kill people.

budster101 · Mar 21, 2005, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Guns don't kill people, teenagers kill people.

True.
True.

.

Dimethyltrypt · Mar 21, 2005, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Guns don't kill people, teenagers kill people.

damn str8, homie cowboy.

I LUV THAT.

forkies · Mar 21, 2005, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Guns don't kill people, teenagers kill people.

i thought it was: guns don't kill people, americans kill people.

TheBadgerHunter · Mar 21, 2005, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by forkies:
i thought it was: guns don't kill people, americans kill people.

Guns don't kill people, rappers do.

Dimethyltrypt · Mar 21, 2005, 09:23 PM

leave them guns alone, hippie communists.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 21, 2005, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by forkies:
i thought it was: guns don't kill people, americans kill people.

Either excuse.

Rev-O · Mar 21, 2005, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by forkies:
i thought it was: guns don't kill people, americans kill people.

Damn right. It's just a shame when we pursue our hobby within the comfy confines of our nation. We need to get our collective act together and start killing more foreigners. They're the real problem.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 21, 2005, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Rev-O:
We need to get our collective act together and start killing more foreigners. They're the real problem.

Start? You already got that one WELL covered.

Dimethyltrypt · Mar 21, 2005, 10:20 PM

another thread hijacked by pinko hippies..

will it ever end?!!!!

dillerX · Mar 21, 2005, 11:18 PM

Will be interesting to see how this is spun considering where it took place.

DarwinX · Mar 22, 2005, 12:07 AM

A sad day for the midwest and all of America. They're families are in my thoughts and prayers.

roberto blanco · Mar 22, 2005, 01:17 AM

i blame michael moore, michael jackson and the devil!

GO BABY JESUS!

Dimethyltrypt · Mar 22, 2005, 06:55 AM

God help this community.

My thoughts and prayers go to the ones who have been affected by this tragedy.

Cody Dawg · Mar 22, 2005, 06:59 AM

This is just terrible.

I cannot imagine how that community feels.

Is anyone here a teenager or just out of teenaged years and can tell us what kind of angst today's youth have so that we have some way of understanding this? Because it seems like they are more and more violent - why?

Cody Dawg · Mar 22, 2005, 07:06 AM

I just heard that the kid posted all kinds of posts about how he was the messenger of death at a neo-Nazi site.

budster101 · Mar 22, 2005, 08:38 AM

Maybe someone should have been monitoring his internet access. Like many in here...

Really though, his life was terrible with the story of his parents and all. Someone should have been counseling the lad. A tragic story.

OldManMac · Mar 22, 2005, 08:40 AM

A very sad, and horrific incident! School violence, however, is in fact down over the last five years; unfortunately, some people are going to grab on to the sensationalism of this heinous act, and go running around like Chicken Little.

A fast growing problem nationally is that of gangs, but that doesn't seem to grab as much attention as single, isolated incidents, because too many thrive on sensationalism.

dcmacdaddy · Mar 22, 2005, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by dillerX:
Will be interesting to see how this is spun considering where it took place.

What do you mean by "spun"? Everybody knows,

"Gun's don't kill people, Indians kill people."

/sarcasm

ort888 · Mar 22, 2005, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
This is just terrible.

I cannot imagine how that community feels.

Is anyone here a teenager or just out of teenaged years and can tell us what kind of angst today's youth have so that we have some way of understanding this? Because it seems like they are more and more violent - why?

When I was a teenager I would frequently fantasize about going on a killing spree in my school. I really hated a lot of the people there. But fantasizing and doing it are a million miles apart. I would never ever ever have done anything like that.

But I can see how someone who is mentally unstable, in a worse situation than I was, and had access to guns could possible be pushed so far as to snap and go on a shooting spree.

Proudest Monkey · Mar 22, 2005, 01:29 PM

Here is a link to the full-story

http://www.startribune.com/stories/156/5306709.html

StarTrib also has more on their main page.

I'm not sure if this story requires registration but here are some codes from bugmenot.com

username: spidercamp
password: newspaper

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 22, 2005, 01:30 PM

Oh an Indian Reserve, big surprise, he was probably drunk at the time.

Discuss..

Proudest Monkey · Mar 22, 2005, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Oh an Indian Reserve, big surprise, he was probably drunk at the time.

Discuss..

are we discussing your ignorance?

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 22, 2005, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Proudest Monkey:
are we discussing your ignorance?

Actually your ability to take the bait.

Proudest Monkey · Mar 22, 2005, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Actually your ability to take the bait.

hook line and sinker - but seriously, why would you say that?

there is a little bit of truth in everything and i bet there is some truth in your statement.

Zimphire · Mar 22, 2005, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by forkies:
i thought it was: guns don't kill people, americans kill people.

Only in Americahatingzealotville.

Originally posted by budster101:
Maybe someone should have been monitoring his internet access. Like many in here...

You joke..

But seriously, some moron will go on a rant about how this means we need MORE gun laws.

When the guy who did this broke many gun laws to do what he did.

Yes, guns will be blamed instead of realizing what the real problem is.

Another thing that will happen, people will say "I didn't see this coming"

When in just about EVERY case of this happening, it usually involves the attacker being teased at school, and having parents that ignore their activities.

The problem isn't guns.

Oisín · Mar 22, 2005, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Another thing that will happen, people will say "I didn't see this coming"

When in just about EVERY case of this happening, it usually involves the attacker being teased at school, and having parents that ignore their activities.

And, in this case, the shooter himself proclaiming to his friends that he'd love to go and "shoot up the school" (sorry for the MSNBC link, got it from another board).

The problem isn't guns.

Guns in themselves aren't the problem. But the facility of obtaining guns in the US currently is a contributing factor to some people getting an easy opportunity to carry out a fantasy they would never have carried out had they not had the easy opportunity provided by the facility of obtaining guns (that was a very bad sentence).

A complete attitude-change towards guns, moving away from the feeling that a gun is something fairly natural to have in a normal home, could possibly go quite some way in preventing some people from picking up a gun and doing something with it that they regret.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 22, 2005, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Proudest Monkey:
there is a little bit of truth in everything and i bet there is some truth in your statement.

There is a stereotype that Native Indians are all drunks. From what I have seen I can see how it became a stereotype.

mdc · Mar 22, 2005, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Guns don't kill people, rappers do.

i seen it in a documentary on bbc2.

just incase you are wondering

demograph68 · Mar 22, 2005, 02:13 PM

I'm part Native American and part Irish. Should I be drunk right now?

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 22, 2005, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by demograph68:
I'm part Native American and part Irish. Should I be drunk right now?

I hope you are posting from an AA meeting!

wdlove · Mar 22, 2005, 02:50 PM

Very sad. My prayers go out to the victims, family , and friends. Hopefully this young man is finally at peace.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Mar 22, 2005, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by wdlove:
Hopefully this young man is finally at peace.

At peace burning in hell for his sins?

budster101 · Mar 22, 2005, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
At peace burning in hell for his sins?

More inflamitory trash from the gutter.

nonhuman · Mar 22, 2005, 03:09 PM

Obviously the solution to this problem is to outlaw law enforcement officers from having guns. If cops didn't have guns, this never would have happened!

nonhuman · Mar 22, 2005, 03:15 PM

And why is it that this story has been all over several UK news sources, but I haven't seen squat on US sources? I've known since yesterday the full details of the story including where it happened, how many people died, and that he killed himself afterwards.

Proudest Monkey · Mar 22, 2005, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
I hope you are posting from an AA meeting!

i really don't understand your desire to plaster your stereotypes on these boards. maybe these are funny jokes for you and your friends to sit around and laugh about in the privacy of your home but in a public forum with people from different nationalities it just is not necessary.

if you want to contribute something to this forum make it meaningful.

Proudest Monkey · Mar 22, 2005, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by nonhuman:
And why is it that this story has been all over several UK news sources, but I haven't seen squat on US sources? I've known since yesterday the full details of the story including where it happened, how many people died, and that he killed himself afterwards.

i think it's been everywhere ...

locally ... www.startribune.com
nationally ... http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/22/sch...ing/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7259823/
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...shooting_x.htm

every news source had the story on their main page

or ... if you want to look into it it may be because it occured on a reservation. much like when (pardon me for forgetting their names but i can't look them up right now) the young girl was abducted from an upper class suburb in salt lake city at the same time a girl from milwaukee in a poorer neighborhood was abducted but that did not get any news coverage. many speculated that it was because she was african-american and the mothers boyfriend had a criminal record while the family in utah was white, upper/middle class, married household etc.

its up to your own opinions and perceptions.

Oisín · Mar 22, 2005, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Proudest Monkey:
i really don't understand your desire to plaster your stereotypes on these boards. maybe these are funny jokes for you and your friends to sit around and laugh about in the privacy of your home but in a public forum with people from different nationalities it just is not necessary.

if you want to contribute something to this forum make it meaningful.

Easy now! It was obviously meant as a joke, even I saw that, and I'm none too quick at getting written jokes. He even said himself that he was taking a swipe at the stereotypes.

Just because the subject of a thread is a horrible one doesn't necessarily mean you can't add some humour to the thread itself.

kemuri · Mar 22, 2005, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Only in Americahatingzealotville.

Which is probably every other country outside of the US of A.

The problem isn't guns.

True, it's Americans with guns.

Zimphire · Mar 22, 2005, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by kemuri:
Which is probably every other country outside of the US of A.

It's official. You are deluded.