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What was state of the art in 1998?
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Click here
Don't know if this works on OS X. The commercial is very short.
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
/NOSTALGIA]

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Originally posted by Kilbey:
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Paperweight. 
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Originally posted by budster101:
Paperweight.
Like most hardware from that time.
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
I have 3 of those. 
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
Bring back the puck!!!
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Originally posted by Mr Kino:
Bring back the puck!!!
[stewie]You MUST be 'shrooming.....[/stewie]
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Originally posted by budster101:
Paperweight.
We have two of those in the library at school, and they work just fine. They're faster than the PCs they have running, actually, though I think the PCs are P3 1.6 GHz with 512 RAM or something like that, while the Macs are G3 400 MHz w/320 MB RAM.
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Originally posted by gumby5647:
[stewie]You MUST be 'shrooming.....[/stewie]
The puck is like the best mouse in the whole entire universe.
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I wish I hadn't stepped on my puck...
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
No way to connect a frigging CD burner...
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Originally posted by CharlesS:
No way to connect a frigging CD burner...
USB? I used to have an Iomega CD burner that worked off USB. Really, really slow, though.
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Originally posted by theolein:
USB? I used to have an Iomega CD burner that worked off USB. Really, really slow, though.
I used to have a USB 4X CD-RW Lacie drive hooked up to my original iMac. It took about 15 minutes using Toast to burn a full CD-R. Not fast, but it was very reliable.
Originally posted by budster101:
Paperweight.
Actually, as a paper weight it didn't work out too well. Difficult to lift and put any paper under.
Now the puck worked great as a paperweight after I cut the cord off. 
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Originally posted by theolein:
USB? I used to have an Iomega CD burner that worked off USB. Really, really slow, though.
It would give a buffer underrun error every time if you dared try burning at the maximum speed - you had to ratchet it down at least to 4x... pain in the ass and not usable!
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What? It has no floppy?
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Originally posted by CharlesS:
It would give a buffer underrun error every time if you dared try burning at the maximum speed - you had to ratchet it down at least to 4x... pain in the ass and not usable!
I think that's why Iomega is in the sorry state that is is in these days. After the Zip drives they basically never again made another good product.
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Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
..image of silly computer..
ManOfSteal, I'm simply shocked. I was certain that this was state of the art in 1998:

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Originally posted by CharlesS:
No way to connect a frigging CD burner...
You can get an internal CD burner as well.
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Originally posted by Kenneth:
You can get an internal CD burner as well.
Yeah, because the average user (intended market for original iMac) is so likely to go crack the case open to install an internal CD burner.
Because, as we all know, the original iMac was so easy to work inside!
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The 5500/225 that replaced my SE/30.
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Originally posted by AKcrab:
ManOfSteal, I'm simply shocked. I was certain that this was state of the art in 1998...
Memories...

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Originally posted by CharlesS:
Yeah, because the average user (intended market for original iMac) is so likely to go crack the case open to install an internal CD burner.
Because, as we all know, the original iMac was so easy to work inside!
Actually, it was pretty easy. just a few screws and all the important parts slide right out.
I added a VooDoo 3D accelerator card, more RAM, more VRAM, changed the HD with a lager capacity unit, and I even ran an additional external power and data cable out the side for an extra external HD.
And believe me, I have been called an idiot so many times on here that if I could do it anyone with use of their arms and fingers could do it.
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So nobody's clicked the link I posted?
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Originally posted by starman:
So nobody's clicked the link I posted?
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Yep.
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Originally posted by starman:
So nobody's clicked the link I posted?
Mike
i did, but the video did not work.
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Originally posted by Kilbey:
Actually, it was pretty easy. just a few screws and all the important parts slide right out.
I added a VooDoo 3D accelerator card, more RAM, more VRAM, changed the HD with a lager capacity unit, and I even ran an additional external power and data cable out the side for an extra external HD.
And believe me, I have been called an idiot so many times on here that if I could do it anyone with use of their arms and fingers could do it.
The target market for that machine consisted of people who would never even dream of opening up their computer. "Upgrade" is a curse word to these types of people.
Come on, you have to admit that this isn't a reasonable thing to expect for a consumer machine. End users want to be able to buy the drive, and plug it in. Not take their computer apart. And yes, I've worked inside the G3 iMacs too, so I know what they're like. And it's not something that Grandma would be doing. Period.
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What is 'State of the art NOW' ?
Well... 2002. This should probably be it's own thread.
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I just don't like that idea... I saw it everytime I shopped at Fry's.
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State of the art:
1998...
Swatch introduces Internet Time
Sony unveiled "the memory stick"
Replay TV
The Iridium Satellite Phone goes commercial
Wacom has their first LCD Tablet on the market
The Diamond Multimedia RIO 300...

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LOL! I loved it when they mentioned that Intel just announced the 440BX chipset and the 400MHz Pentium II. It seems like just yesterday.
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I get sick when I think of what I paid for a 20mhz computer with 5mb drive.
That was of course a little before 1998.
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Originally posted by CharlesS:
The target market for that machine consisted of people who would never even dream of opening up their computer. "Upgrade" is a curse word to these types of people.
Come on, you have to admit that this isn't a reasonable thing to expect for a consumer machine. End users want to be able to buy the drive, and plug it in. Not take their computer apart. And yes, I've worked inside the G3 iMacs too, so I know what they're like. And it's not something that Grandma would be doing. Period.
I thought it was reasonable. The first iMac was a "switcher" machine for me. I was a typical "consumer" (or as I like to call "home user"). I played games and surfed the internet.
Re the gramndma: I really don't expect much from the grandma except the downloading of viruii and spyware. But for anyone born after 1960 I would expect a similar knowledge/ability level.
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Originally posted by budster101:
I get sick when I think of what I paid for a 20mhz computer with 5mb drive.
That was of course a little before 1998.
I get sick when I think of the fact that my dad paid 48,000 DKr (almost $8,500) for a 16 MHz 386 computer with 40 MB hard disk space, but with an amazing 8 MB of RAM. I can buy two and a half PowerBooks for that amount now.
It did serve us faithfully for nearly ten years, though, but had some trouble running Windows 3.11 properly.
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Originally posted by Kilbey:
But for anyone born after 1960 I would expect a similar knowledge/ability level.
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My first computer
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-original iMac, TiPB 400, Cube, Macbook (black), iMac 24¨, plus the original iPod and a black nano 4GB-
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I can't get the video to play for me here at work on a windows 2000 machine. It says there is an Error downloading the codec.
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[WILDLY OT]that's all that mattered in 1998
well and that too
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Man it was such a good year!!
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