[Eriamjh]

Don't know if it has been discussed, but I wanted to mention it and post one comment.

Here is the article about the image itself:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/4389079/detail.html

Here is the article about the defacing:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/irresi...55/detail.html

And here is the pic and a comparison:

And my comment is that it looks like a piece of female anatomy.
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Now please pass the grilled cheese.

[scaught]

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

And my comment is that it looks like a piece of female anatomy.
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that was what i thought the first time i saw it, too.

[turtle777]

Sell it on eBay(tm).

-t

[olePigeon]

Looks like a vagina to me... though, I don't think I can post a comparison pic.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Looks like a vagina to me... though, I don't think I can post a comparison pic.

Maybe that's what Eriamjh meant with his post:

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

And here is the pic and a comparison:
And my comment is that it looks like a piece of female anatomy.
<picture removed>

-t

[nonhuman]

Damn, I just keep misreading thread titles lately. I could have sworn it said underpants.

[bubblewrap]

It's cool to bash Christianity now.
It's all the rage.

[MindFad]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

It's cool to bash Christianity now.
It's all the rage.

Duh.

That's a cooter if I ever saw one. Pfft. Bit grey and moldy looking, but good form.

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

It's cool to bash Christianity now.
It's all the rage.

Where and when? When did you last see a church burnt down? A graveyard systematically vandalized and daubed with anti Jesus slogans? When was the last time you, or anybody you know, didn't get a job because they were Christian?

Enough with the bleeding heart already.

The human mind thrives on pattern recognition. That's how we work, that's how we operate. That's also the reason we see images in water, in clouds, in leaves. It has nothing to do with religion, it's not a miracle. Both the people praying to a concrete wall and the guy who found it necessary to daub the image are nutjobs.

[storer]

Well, even if it did say underpants, it would still be perfectly appropriate, seeing as what that image of Mary really looks like. Maybe god is trying to send us a message about "Mary."

[chris v]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

It's cool to bash Christianity now.
It's all the rage.

It's a stain in an underpass. people who worship stains need to get a grip. People who think that Christians are being persecuted because someone spraypaints a stain also need to get a grip.

[storer]

w00t, go chris!

We had a huge Christian bashing the other day at this youth organization I do stuff with. We had published a newspaper with a religiously challenging image on the front (DaVinci's Last Supper with Jesus reading LOOP <thepaper> and thinking "The Immaculate Conception, Pt II"). Lets just say that the Catholics rang and left quite a few nasty messages on the answering machine... but we got a response.

[Hugi]

Yes, the virgin mary does go around

[chris v]

Originally Posted by storer

w00t, go chris!

We had a huge Christian bashing the other day at this youth organization I do stuff with. We had published a newspaper with a religiously challenging image on the front (DaVinci's Last Supper with Jesus reading LOOP <thepaper> and thinking "The Immaculate Conception, Pt II"). Lets just say that the Catholics rang and left quite a few nasty messages on the answering machine... but we got a response.

I wasn't Christian bashing at all. I was setting a delusional paranoid straight in an internet forum. Very important distinction.

[storer]

I wasn't saying you are... I am sort of Christian myself. Well lets say... skeptic Christian.

[chris v]

Originally Posted by storer

I wasn't saying you are... I am sort of Christian myself. Well lets say... skeptic Christian.

Faith and sketpticism are indeed tough to balance. One often flourishes only in the total absence of the other. A healthy mind is capable of both.

[storer]

Hrmn, well let's hope I have a healthy mind. I would say skepticism is ruling ATM, but we shall see.

back to topic...

[bubblewrap]

Originally Posted by chris v

It's a stain in an underpass. people who worship stains need to get a grip. People who think that Christians are being persecuted because someone spraypaints a stain also need to get a grip.

One of the best known was an image on windows of an office building in Clearwater, Florida, that drew hundreds of thousands of viewers after it was spotted in 1996. Experts said the image was created by corrosion. The windows were shattered last year, and a teenage boy pleaded guilty to felony criminal mischief and sentenced to 10 days in jail.

See a trend here yet?

There's a message here.

[chris v]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

See a trend here yet?

There's a message here.

What-- that people on both sides of the stain-worshipping debate can be stupid? I'm shocked. Shocked and chagrinned. Two stains vandalized. Hardly a mass movemennt. We need more stain worshipping before we can really do a baseline study of the defacement phenomenon. Besides-- perhaps the stain was defaced by the member of one of the Christian sects that rejects idolatry.

Question: If I see Jesus in a tortilla, and I go ahead and eat it, am I sinning, or participating in a loaves-and-fishes type miracle? A conundrum, for sure.

[bubblewrap]

No, but when you purposely go around destroying symbols a group admires with your opinion expressing how wrong you think they are, then it's a problem.

And perhaps the image was defaced by someone who wasn't a Christian.

Don't eat the tortilla, sell it to a sucker on e-bay. Make some serious coin.

[ghporter]

It was stupid for whomever it was to deface the image because it shows incredible intollerance. That makes it almost a hate crime to some people. It's sad.

And note how many images of Mary show her with robes just barely opened in multiple folds. Lots and lots of symbolism wrapped up in that. She's the mother of God, so shouldn't she seem exceptionally feminine? The image on the concrete works great.

[wowok1234]

I live in Chicago, and I know that area. The latest was that the Department of Sanitation painted over it, and in the morning, the paint disappeared and the image reappeared.

Weird..

[chris v]

Originally Posted by wowok1234

I live in Chicago, and I know that area. The latest was that the Department of Sanitation painted over it, and in the morning, the paint disappeared and the image reappeared.

Weird..

Oh, right. Pix plz. It seems like if G*d wanted to perform miracles, he'd do something a little more sectacular than a water stain in an underpass that could be mistaken for labia just as easily.

[RonnieoftheRose]

The Big Life logo is genius compared to the stain.

[RonnieoftheRose]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

Don't eat the tortilla, sell it to a sucker on e-bay. Make some serious coin.

I got a kebab that looked like Krishna's flute but don't think I can find a wealthy Hindu stupid enough to pay 30 Gs for it.

[bubblewrap]

If someone was caught defacing an islamic holy symbol, they'd be sentenced to death.
This included speaking out or writing a book.

[paul w]

That was touchingly appropriate, but we're talking about a salt stain on the wall in the US.

BTW has anyone ever seen La Dolce Vita?

[bubblewrap]

Originally Posted by RonnieoftheRose

The Big Life logo is genius compared to the stain.

It's not Big Life.
It's Big Lie

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

See a trend here yet?

There's a message here.

Yes sir, two incidents nationwide definitely make a trend all right!

[RonnieoftheRose]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

It's not Big Life.
It's Big Lie

I went back there to spray an F.

[bubblewrap]

Originally Posted by KarlG

Yes sir, two incidents nationwide definitely make a trend all right!

It's moving from ******** internet bullitin boards to the streets.
I guess the venting against religion and faith on forums isn't enough.
This guy is a pussy.
I say grow some balls. Deface an islamic symbol.

[RonnieoftheRose]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

I say grow some balls. Deface an islamic symbol.

He/she didn't deface a Christian/religious symbol. If that was their intention nearby churches would have the same grafitti. (It is mostly big lies and myths anyway)

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

I say grow some balls. Deface an islamic symbol.

He spray painted a salt stain. Does that make him an idiot? Yes. Does it suppress Christianity? No.

[wdlove]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

It's cool to bash Christianity now.
It's all the rage.

Actually it's the Catholics that focus on the Virgin Mary. So Christianity has nothing to do with this particular issue. I consider myself to be a Christian.

[chris v]

Originally Posted by bubblewrap

It's moving from ******** internet bullitin boards to the streets.
I guess the venting against religion and faith on forums isn't enough.
This guy is a pussy.
I say grow some balls. Deface an islamic symbol.

The Moslems don't tend to worship any old spot on the wall that's vaguely shaped like some painter's version of what someone said an apparition of a ghost might have looked like. The idolatry that goes on with these... blobs... is just simply bizarre. It's not like the guy spray painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, exactly.

[Millennium]

I still think it looks like Cthulhu.

[OldManMac]

Originally Posted by chris v

The Moslems don't tend to worship any old spot on the wall that's vaguely shaped like some painter's version of what someone said an apparition of a ghost might have looked like. The idolatry that goes on with these... blobs... is just simply bizarre. It's not like the guy spray painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, exactly.

Just what do you think you're doing, bringing facts into this "discussion?"

[Electric Zombie]

Originally Posted by Millennium

I still think it looks like Cthulhu.

All the Christians will be in the back of the line. Us true believers will get to be eaten first.

[scaught]

Originally Posted by Millennium

I still think it looks like Cthulhu.

"crotch of cthulhu"

[budster101]

You can still see the image, even after they painted over it. I live in Chicago and have seen it.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

What kind of morons would actually go to view this because they think it is a miracle?

[RonnieoftheRose]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

What kind of MORONS would actually go to view this because they think it is a miracle?

Honestly killed me with that one. I'm off to the pub to get proper sloshed.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by wdlove

Actually it's the Catholics that focus on the Virgin Mary. So Christianity has nothing to do with this particular issue. I consider myself to be a Christian.

Just like they consider themselves to be Christians.

[entrox]

Homer: These lima beans are even better than the ones we had for breakfast and lunch! Oh! A lima bean that looks just like the Leader! I'll put it with the others.

Marge: Homer, you know I always try to put the best face on everything, but there's no face on that damn bean!

[keekeeree]

Originally Posted by chris v

Oh, right. Pix plz. It seems like if G*d wanted to perform miracles, he'd do something a little more sectacular than a water stain in an underpass that could be mistaken for labia just as easily.

Like a burning bush?

[bubblewrap]

Originally Posted by chris v

The Moslems don't tend to worship any old spot on the wall that's vaguely shaped like some painter's version of what someone said an apparition of a ghost might have looked like. The idolatry that goes on with these... blobs... is just simply bizarre. It's not like the guy spray painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, exactly.

But they do go worship a chunk of meteorite.

[bubblewrap]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

What kind of morons would actually go to view this because they think it is a miracle?

The same kind of morons who think a chunk of meteorite is a gift from God.

[Hugi]

Edit: Whoops, forgot rule number one: Never let arrogant smart-asses push you into making ill conceived posts.

[jnrjr79]

No need to buy into this stuff and freak out about it. It was just some people who went back with some sort of cleaning system that were able to take off the paint and leave (most of) the stain.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/...s-image07.html

[MilkmanDan]

I guess this is why people hear voices coming from static on a TV or radio. Or maybe its just wishful thinking on someones part. Or maybe even more so its people who are so desperate to believe that they see something in nothing. Isn't this the theory behind playing rock and roll backwards to hear satanic voices?

Honestly, if you want to find something badly enough you'll find it. You'll find the hand of God helping you to find your car keys, or saving your life in a car accident. You'll find Mary in toast or Jesus in a tree stump. Imagination is a great thing to have. This is why we have artists who paint things, and why 100 people see 100 things in it. Now tell 100 people what they should see and a good majority will see it, even if its not there.

Our brains are wired to look for patterns. Thats how we developed language, how we learn it, and how we use it. Patterns.

Oh, and Christians of the world. Please stop acting as if you're being persecuted one moment and then proclaim how the 'next big thing' in Christianity has just happened. Persecution has happened by every group to every group for all time. I mean Christians spend as much time bashing other Christians as they do everyone else. The KKK was originally formed by Protestants to persecute Catholics. Shoot the we celebrate the Jewish nation of Israel being formed by Moses and his group in the Bible, not thinking that there were already a lot of people living in that land who didn't buy into the whole 'God told us we could' argument. Maybe instead of looking to blame everyone else people should focus on how to better themselves and get along with other people.