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May 27, 2005, 06:04 AM
 
Why is it that so many people on this forum type "loose" rather than "lose". I can't figure it out but I've seen it at least a few dozen times.

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May 27, 2005, 06:08 AM
 
Fool, tool, drool, cool...get the picture?

I used to do it too 'till somebody pointed it out to me.

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May 27, 2005, 06:10 AM
 
Your write.

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May 27, 2005, 06:34 AM
 
Eye cant believe eye just red this thread.
     
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May 27, 2005, 06:50 AM
 
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May 27, 2005, 06:51 AM
 
I have a Spelling Checker.
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I’ve run this poem threw it.
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May 27, 2005, 06:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by BasketofPuppies
I have a Spelling Checker.
It came with my PC.
It clearly marks four my revue
Mistakes I cannot sea.

I’ve run this poem threw it.
I’m sure your pleased two no
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May 27, 2005, 06:56 AM
 
It's knot mine. That poem has shown up everywhere over the years.
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May 27, 2005, 07:09 AM
 
Originally Posted by BasketofPuppies
It's knot mine. That poem has shown up everywhere over the years.


I've never seen it. Or maybe I did and then forgot about it.
     
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May 27, 2005, 07:12 AM
 
*sigh*

I agree with the Randmeister. Too many peope type the word "lose" wrong, or use an apostrophe in the wrong place, or can't use "their" or "they're" properly.

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May 27, 2005, 07:23 AM
 
^ Agreed. It drives me nuts.
     
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May 27, 2005, 07:27 AM
 
For all intensive purposes, it means the same thing.
     
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May 27, 2005, 08:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by PurpleGiant
For all intensive purposes, it means the same thing.
lose and loose?
     
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May 27, 2005, 09:10 AM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
Why is it that so many people on this forum type "loose" rather than "lose"? I can't figure it out but I've seen it at least a few dozen times.
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Anyway, my guess is that people forget the meaning of each and when it comes to choosing which to use, they end up using the incorrect one.
     
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May 27, 2005, 09:34 AM
 
I'm not a grammer not, but I even know that one...
     
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May 27, 2005, 09:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by E's Lil Theorem
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Anyway, my guess is that people forget the meaning of each and when it comes to choosing which to use, they end up using the incorrect one.
My guess is people simply don't know how to spell. They want to say "lose" and sound it out. Sounds like "loose" to them so they use that spelling.
     
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May 27, 2005, 10:23 AM
 
Originally Posted by PurpleGiant
For all intensive purposes, it means the same thing.
hahaha.
     
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May 27, 2005, 10:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by PurpleGiant
For all intensive purposes, it means the same thing.
"intents and purposes"
     
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May 27, 2005, 11:10 AM
 
it's an intense porpoise. don't ask questions.
     
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May 27, 2005, 11:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by PurpleGiant
For all intensive purposes, it means the same thing.

I pretty much take it for granite that threads like this will be rediculous.

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May 27, 2005, 11:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Demonhood
it's an intense porpoise. don't ask questions.
The Intensive Porpoises are scarier then the Tax Poroises and the Viewing Porpoises.
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May 27, 2005, 03:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by Frida's Boss
Heh, nifty.

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May 27, 2005, 03:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by dav
lose and loose?
I think he took for granite your ability to figger out the joke.
     
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May 27, 2005, 03:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa
My guess is people simply don't know how to spell. They want to say "lose" and sound it out. Sounds like "loose" to them so they use that spelling.
Except that lose doesn't sound like loose, so they don't even get that right.

Loosers.

*takes note of 'all intensive porpoises'*

(In that than/then test, isn't the sentence “it would be safer for the group of us to explore the caves (than/then) for each of us to go in alone” pretty bad English? “The group of us”, isn't that sort of idiomatically wrong, or at least bad rhythm? Personally, I'd prefer “all of us ... together”. I hate it when so-called 'authorities', on whatever subject, don't know their own stuff - sorry, I mean “there one stough”)
     
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May 27, 2005, 03:39 PM
 
If only the cleverness of some of these posts migrated to other parts of the forum ...

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May 27, 2005, 03:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
Fool, tool, drool, cool...get the picture? .
Except that in most dialects of English, none of those words rhymes with "loose". The vowel sound is different.

In fact, "lose" and "loose" have the same vowel — what is different is the final consonant: IPA [z] vs. [s].

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May 27, 2005, 04:16 PM
 
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May 27, 2005, 04:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by PurpleGiant
For all intensive purposes, it means the same thing.
Yeah, mistakes like "loose" are pardon parcel with internet forums. Nobody here is going to be winning a pullet surprise anytime soon, that's for sure.
     
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May 27, 2005, 04:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by tooki
Except that in most dialects of English, none of those words rhymes with "loose". The vowel sound is different.

In fact, "lose" and "loose" have the same vowel — what is different is the final consonant: IPA [z] vs. [s].
Same vowel quality, but different vowel length (since unvoiced sibilants never follow long vowels in English).

Apart from that, it is rather illogical that 'lose' rhymes with 'choose', 'schmooze', 'booze', 'ooze', etc. (although the latter three of those are spelt with a z instead of an s), rather than 'hose', 'chose', 'nose', 'pose', 'rose', etc.

Loose makes more sense, rhyming with 'goose', 'noose', 'moose', 'hoose' (as in 'hoosegow').
     
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May 27, 2005, 05:02 PM
 
The only absolute rule in english is that there is an exception to every rule. It's a very inconsistent language. trying to impart consistency to its spelling will be fraught with failure, not matter what you do.

Its a mute point.
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May 27, 2005, 05:04 PM
 
Originally Posted by chris v
Its a mute point.
     
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May 27, 2005, 05:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by PurpleGiant
For all intensive purposes, it means the same thing.
That's "for all intents and purposes" — and it's a meaningless cliché to boot!
     
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Originally Posted by selowitch
That's "for all intents and purposes" — and it's a meaningless cliché to boot!
Pssst: T'was a joke.
     
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May 27, 2005, 06:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by chris v
The only absolute rule in english is that there is an exception to every rule. It's a very inconsistent language. trying to impart consistency to its spelling will be fraught with failure, not matter what you do.

Its a mute point.
chris v wins the thread.
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May 27, 2005, 06:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
Pssst: T'was a joke.
Shouldn't've said anything, we could've watched Selowitch correct all the grammer and english issues in this thread... it would've been a hoot!
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May 27, 2005, 08:58 PM
 
More tests from that same site linked above:

http://homepage.smc.edu/reading_lab/...y_confused.htm
"Yields a falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields a falsehood when preceded by its quotation.
     
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Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;

It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word. ~Andrew Jackson
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. ~Mark Twain

So, what is wrong with "my" spelling and grammar above. sam
     
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May 27, 2005, 10:45 PM
 
My pet peeve: using nonplussed to mean "unfazed" or "unaffected." I've seen that everywhere: Newsweek, The New York Times, SI, etc. It's really amazing.
     
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Originally Posted by saddino
My pet peeve: using nonplussed to mean "unfazed" or "unaffected." I've seen that everywhere: Newsweek, The New York Times, SI, etc. It's really amazing.
Nonplussed, eh? That's a fancy way of saying minused. You one a dem edjumakatid cipherin' types, ain't ya? And ya got purty lips...
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Originally Posted by chris v
I pretty much take it for granite that threads like this will be rediculous.
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A lot.
     
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Originally Posted by SVass
Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;

It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word. ~Andrew Jackson
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. ~Mark Twain

So, what is wrong with "my" spelling and grammar above. sam
It's incomprehensible gibberish, that's what wrong with it. I had to read it five times before I understood the whole thing, and even then I still couldn't figure out what 'swich licour' is supposed to be.

Personally, I don't care if Andrew Jackson and Mark Twain think little of minds that can only think of one way to spell a word: the issue isn't one of being able to think of only one way to spell, but rather one of limiting all the different ways of spelling that have been thought of, in order to prevent unnecessary confusion.

If we allow people to just spell the way they want, we'll soon be drowned in spellings such as 'ghoti' and 'ghoughpteighbteau'. I'm sure most of you know very well that 'ghoti' is 'fish', but can you guess what 'ghoughptetighbteau' is? I certainly wouldn't be able to.

Having fairly rigid rules and guide lines for orthography (especially in a language where the orthography is so complex and filled with exceptions as English) helps to prevent misunderstandings, and generally makes text easier to read.
     
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Originally Posted by Mastrap
Pssst: T'was a joke.

hey hey hey hey hey hey heyheyheyheyheyheyhey

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May 28, 2005, 09:34 AM
 
Originally Posted by saddino
My pet peeve: using nonplussed to mean "unfazed" or "unaffected." I've seen that everywhere: Newsweek, The New York Times, SI, etc. It's really amazing.
According to the Oxford Dictionary (I love 10.4!), that is an appropriate, if informal, definition of the word.
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May 28, 2005, 09:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
Why is it that so many people on this forum type "loose" rather than "lose". I can't figure it out but I've seen it at least a few dozen times.
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Originally Posted by SVass
Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;

It's a damn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word. ~Andrew Jackson
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. ~Mark Twain

So, what is wrong with "my" spelling and grammar above. sam

Originally Posted by Oisín
It's incomprehensible gibberish, that's what wrong with it. I had to read it five times before I understood the whole thing, and even then I still couldn't figure out what 'swich licour' is supposed to be.

Personally, I don't care if Andrew Jackson and Mark Twain think little of minds that can only think of one way to spell a word: the issue isn't one of being able to think of only one way to spell, but rather one of limiting all the different ways of spelling that have been thought of, in order to prevent unnecessary confusion.

If we allow people to just spell the way they want, we'll soon be drowned in spellings such as 'ghoti' and 'ghoughpteighbteau'. I'm sure most of you know very well that 'ghoti' is 'fish', but can you guess what 'ghoughptetighbteau' is? I certainly wouldn't be able to.

Having fairly rigid rules and guide lines for orthography (especially in a language where the orthography is so complex and filled with exceptions as English) helps to prevent misunderstandings, and generally makes text easier to read.
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Oisin, the "incomprehensible gibberish" that Sam posted is the opening lines
to Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales" as it was written in Middle English.
I think he was having a fun with ya and you fell for it.
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May 28, 2005, 10:21 AM
 
Originally Posted by Oisín
It's incomprehensible gibberish, that's what wrong with it. I had to read it five times before I understood the whole thing, and even then I still couldn't figure out what 'swich licour' is supposed to be.

Personally, I don't care if Andrew Jackson and Mark Twain think little of minds that can only think of one way to spell a word: the issue isn't one of being able to think of only one way to spell, but rather one of limiting all the different ways of spelling that have been thought of, in order to prevent unnecessary confusion.

If we allow people to just spell the way they want, we'll soon be drowned in spellings such as 'ghoti' and 'ghoughpteighbteau'. I'm sure most of you know very well that 'ghoti' is 'fish', but can you guess what 'ghoughptetighbteau' is? I certainly wouldn't be able to.

Having fairly rigid rules and guide lines for orthography (especially in a language where the orthography is so complex and filled with exceptions as English) helps to prevent misunderstandings, and generally makes text easier to read.
I was quoting Chaucer "The Canterbury Tales" in the original English to make a point. Spelling changes over time. Other languages have different alphabets and transliterations into English are problematic. Two examples: Esquimeaux used to be the word now seen as Eskimo. I have seen one ancestor's first name written as Lazarus, Lazer, Eliezer, Lajos, Laioush, and Aloysius depending on the language of the census taker.

Taking a snapshot in time of a language and declaring that it contains all words and meanings and that its spelling is permanent is analagous to declaring that science is now frozen and we know everything.

Paraphrasing the original complaint, I hear far more serious errors every day from those who utter the Ecological Fallacy and the Prosecutor's Fallacy in debates of consequence. I have no problems with understanding minor mis-spellings of words. sam
     
 
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