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Awesome G5/OS X indepth review at AnandTech
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http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436
Well, it appears that the G5 is actually a pretty damn good CPU. They successfully narrowed down why the G5 appears to be slow. Turns out it's not the hardware at all, but OS X itself.
I hope Apple takes note of this. Some apps could see a 500% increase in performance. Though how they describe it, seems like it would have to be a 10.5 release instead of a 10.4.x update if Appler were to address the problem.
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Few things should be taken into consideration:
1. This article was NOT written by Anand.
2. Unlike Anand's articles, it is easily ripped apart, many of the "facts" presented hold little or no ground, especially "It seems that FreeBSD 5.x has somewhat solved the performance problems that were typical for user-level threads, but we are not sure if Mac OS X has been able to take advantage of this." -- FBSD5 "Got rid of user-space threading"
3. MySQL has been incredibly fine tuned to run very quickly on linux
^ sourced from one of our geeks at undermac (thanks grndzero)
Shoot, OS X is slow as a server OS though *shrug* They need to fix that!
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Shoot, OS X is slow as a server OS though *shrug* They need to fix that!
You mean slow as a web server OS running mySQL/Apache. Those arent the only server apps , nor the only server function out there. I wish they would have run linux and OSX on the same machine. I'm curious to see if its the OSX threading or a bad porting of mySQL/apache to OSX.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436
Well, it appears that the G5 is actually a pretty damn good CPU. They successfully narrowed down why the G5 appears to be slow. Turns out it's not the hardware at all, but OS X itself.
I hope Apple takes note of this. Some apps could see a 500% increase in performance. Though how they describe it, seems like it would have to be a 10.5 release instead of a 10.4.x update if Appler were to address the problem.
Who says the G5 is slow?
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Yeah I was wondering about that one too
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Originally Posted by The Godfather
I still want to go back in time and advise Be to sell BeOS when they could!
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1.21 Gigawats is what we all need right now.
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i can personally testify that my new dual g5 2 ghz is not "slow".
the question is what special task or program is it "slow" performing.
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Interesting, but the speed comparisons between OSX and Linux are deeply flawed. They should have added Linux/PPC and Darwin/x86 to their list of operating systems being tested for these benchmarks, so that the two operating systems could be compared on the same hardware. Has anyone done this sort of thing?
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Who says the G5 is slow?
Quite a few trolls and Intel-zealots who deride Apple for not hitting the magical 3-GHz mark.
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Originally Posted by Apple Pro Underwear
i can personally testify that my new dual g5 2 ghz is not "slow".
the question is what special task or program is it "slow" performing.
Did you even RTFA?
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yes, but i'm making the difference in the terminology of "slow"
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Originally Posted by JoshuaZ
1.21 Gigawats is what we all need right now.
Just make sure you pronounce it "Jiggawats". It's more sciency-sounding that way.
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I've said for a while that there's nothing slow about Apple's hardware, quite the contrary. But Apple's software needs tighter optimization. But Apple's software design philosophy is to make the software modular and abstracted -- it makes the software more portable across architectures, more reliable, and less likely to crash. The tradeoff of so many abstraction layers is that it wastes CPU time and causes delays that manifest themselves as sluggishness.
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