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SimpleLife · Jun 12, 2005, 09:15 AM

That's the day the Ottawa-born rocker's latest album is being released, but HMV won't be selling it, or anything else from her back catalogue.

The move, HMV says, is a protest against a deal struck between coffee giant Starbucks and Morissette's label, Maverick Records. Under the terms of their agreement, Morissette's latest effort -- an acoustic re-release of her 1995 album Jagged Little Pill -- will be sold exclusively at Starbucks.

What do you think? Is HMV's reaction too much?

bradoesch · Jun 12, 2005, 09:25 AM

Noooooooooo!!

An acoustic rerelease?!?!? Daaa!!

Zimphire · Jun 12, 2005, 09:58 AM

Wonder if Dave will be playing on that one too.

Doubt it.

Eug Wanker · Jun 12, 2005, 10:55 AM

I think it's rather odd that STARBUCKS has exclusive rights to her CD.

Anyways, it sounds like Alanis Morissette's career may be entering the wrap up phase.

chris v · Jun 12, 2005, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I think it's rather odd that STARBUCKS has exclusive rights to her CD.

It seems odd on the face of it, but realistically, no one in America will have to walk more than 75 feet in any direction in order to buy it.

ghporter · Jun 12, 2005, 11:11 AM

I'd rather see Starbucks have an exclusive "premier" deal than Wal-Mart. And for crying out loud, it's only for six weeks! Tower Records has had exclusive premiers, and nobody's gotten their drawers in a bunch over them. BestBuy has exclusive "added content" deals, and there has been no hue and cry over them. Is it because of the "Canadian content" of Alanis' work? Or maybe because HMV didn't get the deal they wanted? And is HMV boycotting all Maverick releases, or only Alanis'? Makes you wonder...

Apple Pro Underwear · Jun 12, 2005, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by SimpleLife

Here

What do you think? Is HMV's reaction too much?

fight for what you believe in. they believe in the retail model and not the exclusive BS. AM fans come to HMV to buy her CD and maybe pick up a DVD too.

Cadaver · Jun 12, 2005, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Apple Pro Underwear

fight for what you believe in. they believe in the retail model and not the exclusive BS. AM fans come to HMV to buy her CD and maybe pick up a DVD too.

The retail model often deals with exclusives. You don't have to look too far beyond the shiny blue Apple in the upper left hand side of your screen to prove that. HMV better grow up and loose the "hey, that's not fair! Boohooo!" attitude.

I think HMV is having a big hissy fit, and in about 3 minutes no one will notice.

t6hawk · Jun 12, 2005, 11:31 AM

HMV is overpriced to start with. WAY overpriced. Either way I don't like Alannis so I could care less where the CD is sold. I got sick of her banshee like wailing / singing back when Jagged Little Pill first came out and the radio stations heavily overplayed her songs.

Daracle · Jun 12, 2005, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by ghporter

I'd rather see Starbucks have an exclusive "premier" deal than Wal-Mart. And for crying out loud, it's only for six weeks! Tower Records has had exclusive premiers, and nobody's gotten their drawers in a bunch over them. BestBuy has exclusive "added content" deals, and there has been no hue and cry over them. Is it because of the "Canadian content" of Alanis' work? Or maybe because HMV didn't get the deal they wanted? And is HMV boycotting all Maverick releases, or only Alanis'? Makes you wonder...

The places you named are places to that people to to ACTUALLY BUY MUSIC.

I think HMV is justifiable. If Alanis or Maverick don't want to deal with HMV, why should HMV have to deal with Alanis?

Eug Wanker · Jun 12, 2005, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by t6hawk

HMV is overpriced to start with. WAY overpriced. Either way I don't like Alannis so I could care less where the CD is sold. I got sick of her banshee like wailing / singing back when Jagged Little Pill first came out and the radio stations heavily overplayed her songs.

The HMV flagship store here (downtown Toronto) is one of the cheaper retailers in town.

Zimphire · Jun 12, 2005, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by chris v

It seems odd on the face of it, but realistically, no one in America will have to walk more than 75 feet in any direction in order to buy it.

Eh, I've never been to a Starbucks, let a lone seen one in person.

t6hawk · Jun 12, 2005, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

The HMV flagship store here (downtown Toronto) is one of the cheaper retailers in town.

Really? I've NEVER seen it cheaper than other retailers here in Alberta. Hell Amazon was half the price of HMV on a lot of stuff. Even the evil Future Shop had better prices on some stuff.

lavar78 · Jun 12, 2005, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

Eh, I've never been to a Starbucks, let a lone seen one in person.

You've never seen a Starbucks? WTF? I thought "The Moon" was a joke, but I guess not...

Zimphire · Jun 12, 2005, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by lavar78

You've never seen a Starbucks? WTF?

Not that I recall. There isn't one within 60 miles of me I know that.

Eug Wanker · Jun 12, 2005, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by t6hawk

Really? I've NEVER seen it cheaper than other retailers here in Alberta. Hell Amazon was half the price of HMV on a lot of stuff.

HMV.ca = Amazon.ca

Randman · Jun 12, 2005, 12:43 PM

Isn't it ironic?

lavar78 · Jun 12, 2005, 12:51 PM

Don't cha think?

t6hawk · Jun 12, 2005, 01:00 PM

HMV = His Masters Voice

if they teamed with amazon it's cause HMV's online store sucked big time.

I rarely if ever buy music from Canadian suppliers. I'm tired of seeing all the same overplayed top 40 type crap from the radio and nothing more entertaining.

Paco500 · Jun 12, 2005, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

Eh, I've never been to a Starbucks, let a lone seen one in person.

That is quite possibly the most amazing thing I've read on MacNN ever. Apple going intel? Nothing in comparison.

Where exactly in West By God Virginia do you live? There are places in the US with internet access- or electricity for that matter, that don't have Starbucks?

Where I live, I can think of 6 within a few miles- and I bet I'm missing at least one.

Randman · Jun 12, 2005, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

There isn't one within 60 miles of me I know that.

Behold the secret to 29,000+ posts here alone.

Mr. Blur · Jun 12, 2005, 01:41 PM

i do not agree with these exclusive deals and although i do not shop at hmv i agree with their position. and also, from the record companies standpoint it seems odd too - with all the complaining about downloading killing their business you would think that they would want the new cd in as many stores as possible where it is visible to all and the consumer can benefit from competitive pricing.

rambo47 · Jun 12, 2005, 01:50 PM

Hey, I'm boycotting Alanis too, but only because she sucks.

lavar78 · Jun 12, 2005, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Paco500

Where exactly in West By God Virginia do you live?

There's at least one Starbucks on the way to Charleston. Anyway, he lives on the moon.

SimpleLife · Jun 12, 2005, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

HMV.ca = Amazon.ca

But HMV and hmv.ca operate independently. I asked them and they told me so.

Demonhood · Jun 12, 2005, 02:52 PM

i have a starbucks in my garage. and i don't even drink coffee.
they just sorta moved in one day.

JustAnOl'Broad · Jun 12, 2005, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Paco500

Where I live, I can think of 6 within a few miles- and I bet I'm missing at least one.

Paco500
I can remember my family going to our cabin in
Shannondale (near Harpers Ferry, WV) in the early
60's and Reston, VA was a wide spot in the road -
and actually not very wide.

Charles Town WVa got their first fast food (corporate)
when I was in Jr High - and if memory serves it was
Kentucky Fried Chicken there by the race track.

Patti~

Zimphire · 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Paco500

That is quite possibly the most amazing thing I've read on MacNN ever. Apple going intel? Nothing in comparison.

Where exactly in West By God Virginia do you live? There are places in the US with internet access- or electricity for that matter, that don't have Starbucks?

Where I live, I can think of 6 within a few miles- and I bet I'm missing at least one.

I live in the Ohio valley. No Starbucks here.

They probably wouldn't do too well. Starbucks takes advantage of yuppies with too much money.

Originally Posted by lavar78

There's at least one Starbucks on the way to Charleston. Anyway, he lives on the moon.

There is one in Charleston.

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/loca...storeKey=93555

Actually 2

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/loca...storeKey=92320

But that is a good 100 miles south of me.

There are 11 Starbucks in WV over all.

None in the MOV.

PurpleGiant · Jun 12, 2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Demonhood

i have a starbucks in my garage. and i don't even drink coffee.
they just sorta moved in one day.

RAILhead · Jun 12, 2005, 06:05 PM

I remember when Alanis was 19, angry, and teh hotness. We went and saw her in Dallas and we were so close that her sweat would fly on us when she'd swing her hair around. She also threw fruit and candy bars tot he crowd. There was also a disproportionate number of young hot girls there, too, so Dave and i got to be in the middle of all of them, "protecting" them from the crowd when it would lunge to the stage. It was quite the hormonal evening, I can assure you.

And now Alanis = teh crap.

Oh well.

Zimphire · Jun 12, 2005, 06:21 PM

Yeah JLP is a decent CD.

osxpinot · Jun 12, 2005, 07:17 PM

Yes, JLP is a pretty good album. Every song seems to have a catchy tune. That being said, I don't think I'd purchase the re-release. Well, I don't have any business going to Starbucks. That place is a royal rip-off. Alanis Morisette is an okay artist, though. Much like Dave Matthews, her best asset is her voice.

RAILhead · Jun 12, 2005, 07:20 PM

She went off and changed the lyrics in "Ironic", too. It used to say "...meeting the man of my dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife." She changed it to say "...meeting the man of my dreams, and meeting his beautiful husband."

Spare me.

Zimphire · Jun 12, 2005, 07:23 PM

RAIL maybe she just fell for some guy that was gay, and decided to make the song relevant to her present life.

Who knows.

Now, if she changed it just to be political and "edgy" then yeah, lame.

Kerrigan · Jun 12, 2005, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

There are 11 Starbucks in WV over all.

None in the MOV.

This is one of the most shocking things I've read. How could you be that out of touch with the globalised world?

Zimphire · Jun 12, 2005, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

This is one of the most shocking things I've read. How could you be that out of touch with the globalised world?

Because I never been to starbucks?

I don't drink Coffee.

RAILhead · Jun 12, 2005, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

RAIL maybe she just fell for some guy that was gay, and decided to make the song relevant to her present life.

Who knows.

Now, if she changed it just to be political and "edgy" then yeah, lame.

No, she did it because she has a lot of gay friends and likes to support them -- or so she said during a 20/20 interview. Also, she's engaged to get married.

So yeah, lame. But she can do whatever she wants to, of course.

Maury

lavar78 · Jun 12, 2005, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

She went off and changed the lyrics in "Ironic", too. It used to say "...meeting the man of my dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife." She changed it to say "...meeting the man of my dreams, and meeting his beautiful husband."

Spare me.

Actually, I think it works better. It brings that particular part closer to actual irony.

demograph68 · Jun 12, 2005, 07:50 PM

Alanis Morissette was the canadian equivalent to Britney Spears during the 80s.

lavar78 · Jun 12, 2005, 07:52 PM

... and before that, she was on You Can't Do That On Television.

chris v · Jun 13, 2005, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Paco500

That is quite possibly the most amazing thing I've read on MacNN ever. Apple going intel? Nothing in comparison.

Where exactly in West By God Virginia do you live? There are places in the US with internet access- or electricity for that matter, that don't have Starbucks?

Where I live, I can think of 6 within a few miles- and I bet I'm missing at least one.

He hasn't been away from his keyboard long enough to go outside since Starbuck's incorporated. I can think of three within a mile of my house, but I live near a university, so they may be a little dense around here.

Zimphire · Jun 13, 2005, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by chris v

He hasn't been away from his keyboard long enough to go outside since Starbuck's incorporated.

Been away long enough to impregnate your momma.

Eug Wanker · Jun 13, 2005, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

Been away long enough to impregnate your momma.

Not a chance. You're ALWAYS here in the lounge.

Zimphire · Jun 13, 2005, 12:26 PM

I told you a ZILLION times, stop exaggerating

Eug Wanker · Jun 13, 2005, 12:29 PM

See you're still here.

Zimphire · Jun 13, 2005, 12:38 PM

From 8am to 5pm I am at my desk. Yes.

The shame!

I believe they call it work.

chris v · Jun 13, 2005, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

Been away long enough to impregnate your momma.

Shut up, dad!

finboy · Jun 13, 2005, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by t6hawk

HMV = His Masters Voice

if they teamed with amazon it's cause HMV's online store sucked big time.

I rarely if ever buy music from Canadian suppliers. I'm tired of seeing all the same overplayed top 40 type crap from the radio and nothing more entertaining.

Holdover name from the RCA logo.

Eug Wanker · Jun 13, 2005, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by t6hawk

HMV = His Masters Voice

if they teamed with amazon it's cause HMV's online store sucked big time.

I rarely if ever buy music from Canadian suppliers. I'm tired of seeing all the same overplayed top 40 type crap from the radio and nothing more entertaining.

HMV has a huge non-top 40 selection. For instance, last time I checked, the local HMV had an entire floor dedicated to jazz and classical.

And HMV's online store has been teamed with Amazon for as long as I can remember. At least 3 years anyway. (I don't remember visiting HMV.ca before that.)

ReggieX · Jun 14, 2005, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

And HMV's online store has been teamed with Amazon for as long as I can remember. At least 3 years anyway. (I don't remember visiting HMV.ca before that.)

It was HMV.com, they ran their own online store for a good many years. The Amazon.ca partnership only happened in 2003.

HMV.com was crap: everything in a single frameset so it always showed "HMV.com" in the address bar (no linking to specific products) , their entire navigation menu and database lookup was done with JavaScript, and they had tonnes of redundant entried in the database, half of which had no information whatsoever, not even a price. Big piece of crap, no wonder they finally killed it.

And HMV can screw themselves, they get plenty of exclusive items.