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Albert Pujols · Jun 25, 2005, 12:54 AM

Just wondering what other people have for their body mass index.

It's a simple calculation:

weight/height^2 (in kilograms and meters)

or you can just use the BMI calculator.

My BMI is 18.1...

baw · Jun 25, 2005, 12:56 AM

22.2

budster101 · Jun 25, 2005, 12:59 AM

BMI is BS.

http://www.bigfatblog.com/archives/000396.php

Body Fat percentage is better.

Albert Pujols · Jun 25, 2005, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by budster101

BMI is BS.

http://www.bigfatblog.com/archives/000396.php

Body Fat percentage is better.

I agree, but...

"The Index is primarily a statistical tool, designed for public health studies, which enables the investigation and comparison of any medical data set in which the height and weight of subjects were recorded, to determine whether obesity was a correlate in health outcomes. It should be noted that the BMI serves as an estimate of adiposity in a sample data set. If standard bioelectrical impedance data were routinely included in such data sets (detailing actual adiposity), the BMI would become obsolete. But since height and weight are routinely recorded in data sets for a wide variety of investigations, across many countries, while the more precise measures are not, the BMI has offered public health statisticians by far the broadest, if fuzzy, overview of the correlations between overweight and health stress."

From that wikipedia article I linked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index

budster101 · Jun 25, 2005, 01:32 AM

That's all good, and I agree, but there is a group out there known as athletes that don't fall in line with the BMI and skew the results. If you could combine the two, that would be best.

Railroader · Jun 25, 2005, 01:36 AM

Muscle mass throws a serious curve in BMI numbers.

simonjames · Jun 25, 2005, 02:07 AM

BMI is complete BS

If your health care professional believes in BMI then it is time for you to find a new quack

iLikebeer · Jun 25, 2005, 03:36 AM

Wow, I fall into normal body weight with a 20.8?
At 5'10" and 145 lbs, I don't think I've ever been described as anything but underweight. Cool, maybe this means us skinny people are finally convincing all you fatties that your measts(man breasts) are not, in fact, natural and healthy..

What would I know though, I get blown away by a strong wind.

historylme · Jun 25, 2005, 03:48 AM

24 ....

Warung · Jun 25, 2005, 04:08 AM

22.97

Am I teh Winnar?ß

Randman · Jun 25, 2005, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Muscle mass throws a serious curve in BMI numbers.

wdlove · Jun 25, 2005, 10:38 AM

24.6 happy to know that I'm in the healthy range.

Randman · Jun 25, 2005, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by wdlove

24.6 happy to know that I'm in the healthy range.

BMI isn't the best measurement of what = healthy.

E's Lil Theorem · Jun 25, 2005, 11:06 AM

For what it's worth, 21.6.

budster101 · Jun 25, 2005, 11:06 AM

Jim Fix marathoner extraoridnaire died of a heart attack. His BMI was very low I would guess.

BMI is not a good measurement of health. You need to take a stress test, but even then! Congenital Heart Failure is always possible at any time.

These professed all in one indicators are not to be relied on.

DeathMan · Jun 25, 2005, 11:42 AM

Just a touch over 25. Guess I need to hit the bicycle a little more often than once a week. My 60 laps in the pool per week just aren't getting it done.

budster101 · Jun 25, 2005, 11:46 AM

60 laps per "week"?

So, is that 60 / 5 or 60 / 7 ?

How big is the pool? 50m, 25m per lap?

That's not very much.

A better question, what is you O2 uptake? Exhalation?

I'm off the charts on both. The meter doesn't gauge how much O2 I can exhale, and I can swim 50 meters underwater with one breath.

My BMI? I'm off the charts on that as well.... Over 30.
Go figure.

Oisín · Jun 25, 2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by DeathMan

Just a touch over 25. Guess I need to hit the bicycle a little more often than once a week. My 60 laps in the pool per week just aren't getting it done.

Yup, me too: 25.126-something. Damn. I thought I was still just under. Ah well—more exercising it is... maybe.

hyperb0le · Jun 25, 2005, 01:02 PM

23.1

But yes, BMI is pure BS.

rozwado1 · Jun 25, 2005, 03:42 PM

28.7, 11% body fat

budster101 · Jun 25, 2005, 03:49 PM

Now how long can you hold your breath for?
Oxygen Uptake Numbers?
Exhalation Capacity?
Inhiliation Capacity?
Length of time you can hop on one foot rub your tummy and recite the alphabet forwards and backwards?

These are all normal questions, do not be alarmed, they are some of the same questions Tom Cruise asked when interviewing his mind numbed robot to be slave and fellow Scientologist...

nredman · Jun 25, 2005, 04:56 PM

24.4 - almost overweight huh - i call bs

DeathMan · Jun 25, 2005, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

60 laps per "week"?

So, is that 60 / 5 or 60 / 7 ?

How big is the pool? 50m, 25m per lap?

That's not very much.

A better question, what is you O2 uptake? Exhalation?

I'm off the charts on both. The meter doesn't gauge how much O2 I can exhale, and I can swim 50 meters underwater with one breath.

My BMI? I'm off the charts on that as well.... Over 30.
Go figure.

60/3 I don't go every day. Its only 20 laps a session, but I haven't been swimming very long, and I get really bored after about 20 minutes (yeah, I'm not very fast either. I'm self taught, and my form is pretty weak too). Its 50m per lap. I can only do 25-30 m in one breath. I haven't really worked on that. I breathe every cycle. I'm working on getting it down to every other cycle, but I get tired very quickly that way.

budster101 · Jun 25, 2005, 09:38 PM

3 times per week is good. That is a decent distance per session in that case. I didn't realize you meant a 3 x / week schedule. Speed is not the necessary factor. Consistency is. Breathing while swimming is very important, so don't starve yourself for oxygen. I was referring to the ability to use the oxygen while on an underwater trial. When going for distance underwater, the important thing to do is relax, and be consistent. I wouldn't test myself more than once per week or even per month. If that. It's just good to know you can hold your breath and go a distance, as it is a fair indicator of how efficiently your body can use a limited supply of oxygen.

SassyPants · Jun 25, 2005, 09:59 PM

BMI really isn't a good indicator of health.

according to their BMI, Michael Jordan, Shaq, and Arnold Schwartenagger are all obese.

according to my bmi of 25.8, i'm overweight, and i have a Body Fat Percentage of 11%, which is VERY healthy

I'm a swimmer. i swim 5000 meters every day during swim season.
also a tennis player...i play 3 hours every day during tennis season
and when i'm not doing those, i run, and lift weights.
you can say i'm a health freak.

and i'm trying to "get even more overweight." 5"10, 180 lbs. i wanna push the 200 lb barrier. I WANNA BE BEEFY!!!

budster101 · Jun 25, 2005, 10:25 PM

200lbs for you would be perfect. Depending on your muscularity, you would look like you weighed 230.

It's all a matter of perception. My lean muscular weight is 190lbs. / I'm 5'9". When I'm at my optimum weight I look like 240, but muscular.

You want to pack on some muscle? and keep your body fat where it is? You could take MetRx. It will allow you to keep your routine like it is, but you will not canabalize your own muscle. As it stands you might be using your own muscle for fuel, based on reading your workout routine. You are overworking yourself and basic nutrition isn't cutting it. In addition to eating right, you need to supliment somehow to reduce the catabolic nature of your own body. I can shed my bodyfat in no time, I'm used to doing that, and what helps me is using MetRx. (I don't own stock in the company, I just know it works.)

Disclaimer: Read the instructions and ingredients. If you cannot have certain suppliments that are included in MetRx or others based on medication, then don't. Just use a good balanced Protein Suppliment. Something that has milk caseine as well as whey protein. I have bodybuilding friends that swear by this, and it shows.

Good luck with your gaining goals!

Randman · Jun 26, 2005, 12:41 AM

Muscle weighs more than fat, almost twice as much, so a muscular person will have a higher BMI than what is considered "normal".

Cubeoid · Jun 26, 2005, 02:38 AM

Mine reads Fat... as in Pee Eich Ey Tee?!

yo

vexborg · Jun 26, 2005, 03:51 AM

22.6 (196 cm and 87 kg)

Millennium · Jun 26, 2005, 10:23 AM

Mine is a bit on the high side, but skewed by the fact that I've done martial arts for many years. That said, I already know that I could stand to lose a little weight.

DeathMan · Jun 26, 2005, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

When going for distance underwater, the important thing to do is relax, and be consistent. I wouldn't test myself more than once per week or even per month. If that. It's just good to know you can hold your breath and go a distance, as it is a fair indicator of how efficiently your body can use a limited supply of oxygen.

How far is would you consider better than average? It seems like most of my friends can go 25m without tooo much trouble.

How do you improve this? Lots of base cardio work?

Steve · Jun 26, 2005, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Muscle mass throws a serious curve in BMI numbers.

31.6

Muscle mass does play a huge part in throwing off BMI measurements. Most people that have played a sport, or lifted, or are built larger than most other people are considered overweight and obese. Absolutely absurd.

My body fat percentage is right around 14%, for those wondering, so I'm far from either labels.

budster101 · Jun 26, 2005, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by DeathMan

How far is would you consider better than average? It seems like most of my friends can go 25m without tooo much trouble.

How do you improve this? Lots of base cardio work?

Better than average is over 45 meters.

How to learn to hold your breath longer:

http://gallery.deeperblue.net/showphoto.php?photo=811

Static Apnea Freediving is a method of learning to hold our breath.
As shown here, is one example of - prior to competition freediving to qualify.
If you happen to tremor, or do anything that would worry the judges, you are
scratched from the competition.

You asked how to hold your breath and go a farther distance underwater.
Practice holding your breath.

---
I'd say 50meters is above average...

PHYSICAL FITNESS STANDARDS

PHYSICAL EVOLUTION REQUIRED TIME
FIRST PHASE

50 meter underwater swim PASS/FAIL (If you don't pass out, you pass)
Underwater knot tying PASS/FAIL
Drown proofing test PASS/FAIL
Basic Lifesaving test PASS/FAIL
1200 meter pool swim with fins 45 min
1 mile bay swim with fins 50 min
1 mile ocean swim with fins 50 min
1 l/2 mile ocean swim with fins 70 min
2 mile ocean swim with fins 95 min
Obstacle course 15 min
4 mile timed run 32 min

Eug Wanker · Jun 26, 2005, 09:52 PM

BMI can be very useful as a general indicator. However, don't think that the people who created BMI were stupid enough to think that it is the final say in health. Far from it, it is just one indicator which has its uses, and there are many caveats.

Considering that BMI was never designed to assess people like Arnie or Shaq, saying that it alone doesn't measure Arnie or Shaq well is meaningless.

BTW, I find it interesting that so many people are so willing to criticize BMI, yet are quick to quote their body fat percentages. Not only is body fat percentage also not necessarily an indicator of overall health, its measurement often is quite inaccurate (depending on how its done and by whom). Just like BMI, one should be aware of the limitations.

ManOfSteal · Jun 26, 2005, 09:54 PM

23.1