[Eug Wanker]

Globe & Mail: Shields fires missle at Cruise

“I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression,” she wrote in an editorial published Friday in The New York Times.

“If any good can come of Mr. Cruise's ridiculous rant, let's hope that it gives much-needed attention to a serious disease,” she wrote.

I've never been a big fan of Brooke Shields, but I'm glad she spoke out about that flake Tom Cruise. She put him in his place and comes out smelling like roses, while he continues to look like an idiot.



(Thanks Maury.)

[Kevin]

Preston also said Cruise's heated debate with Lauer was “very helpful because it's just raised awareness. People are talking about it now, and that's what they should be.”

We are making fun of him. Not "talking about it"

Just like we make fun of your husband.

[Krusty]

I saw the Cruise clip ... he did seem like a few gears in his brain had slipped loose.

However, though I don't agree with his absolutist statements, I do think that drugs really should be used in last-resort type circumstances. How on earth did our species survive before the last decade or two when we've developed pills to cure every minor inconvenience we may suffer in life ? Clearly there is a lot of overblown "push" marketing by pharma's that are looking for nothing more than a quick buck ... creating treatments for ailments that weren't even recognized as ailments 30 years ago or that people somehow managed to live with, without requiring a pill for millenia.

[Kevin]

Krusty how did people survive?

They didn't, They died.

[Krusty]

Originally Posted by KevinK

Krusty how did people survive?

They didn't, They died.

People died from not getting a hard enough erection ?
People died from bladder control problems ?

[edit]
Clearly, I'm NOT talking about treatment for say, diabetes or cancer.

[Kevin]

No, but people killed themselves because of depression.

Still do.

[von Wrangell]

Tom Cruise's rant was very irresponsible yet contained some grains of truth in it. Anti-depressants(AD) are very risky and should preferably not be administered. But, in severe cases it's the only thing possible to temporarily help the patient.

ADs are very "broad" medicines and have several side-effects that can be harmful for the subject. For instance if a depressed(or just a claustrophobic) patient forgets to take his medicine for just two days it can throw the patient into severe depression that can result in the patient committing suicide. And that is a pretty severe side-effect when someone is being administered ADs just for claustrophobia. Also when patients end their use of AD's some f*cked up things can happen. One is the constant very vague dizziness. Another is something that could best be described as electrical potential building up in the brain and then shooting out into the body of the patient resulting in small vague(but unbelievably irritating) tics in the arms/hands, face and upper-body.

But yeah, it's good that she spoke out against his rant.

[Simon X]

...

[Krusty]

Originally Posted by KevinK

No, but people killed themselves because of depression.

Still do.

Very true ... my comments were not specifically pointed toward Brooke Shields' post partum depression. She may well have been one for whom the drug was necessary.

[Kevin]

You guys ever read alt.religion.scientology?

Weird stuff.

[mitchell_pgh]

I'm glad she responded. My sister suffers from migraines. I wonder how he would respond to such medication.

[TomR]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Globe & Mail: Shields fires missle at Cruise

“I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression,” she wrote in an editorial published Friday in The New York Times.

“If any good can come of Mr. Cruise's ridiculous rant, let's hope that it gives much-needed attention to a serious disease,” she wrote.

I've never been a big fan of Brooke Shields, but I'm glad she spoke out about that flake Tom Cruise. She put him in his place and comes out smelling like roses, while he continues to look like an idiot.



(Thanks Maury.)

Tom Cruise is an asshat. Nicole was smart to dump his sorry butt.

Tom has lost his freakin' mind.

Let me remind people. Scientologists believe that humans are plagued by the souls of dead aliens who invaded the Earth 75 million years ago.

It's another mind control cult like all religions.

'nuff said?

[Krusty]

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I'm glad she responded. My sister suffers from migraines. I wonder how he would respond to such medication.

He'd probably condemn it. I just found a migraine website that suggests the following types of treatment:

Drug therapy

Biofeedback training

Stress reduction

Elimination of certain foods from the diet

Regular exercise, such as swimming or vigorous walking

Temporary relief can sometimes be obtained by using cold packs or by pressing on bulging arteries found in front of the ear or the painful side of the head.

I'm guessing he'd recommend anything EXCEPT the first item on the list with the defense that people had migraines and coped with them somehow before the drugs were invented.

[RAILhead]

Good for her.

[d0ubled0wn]

I think the issue here is that cults are dangerous. They turn people into ranting loons.

[Krusty]

Originally Posted by d0ubled0wn

I think the issue here is that cults are dangerous. They turn people into ranting loons.

[budster101]

Let's see, how can Tom Cruise mess up an almost perfect career?

- Run for Office? Nah. (Not yet)
- Become a shoplifting freak? Nah, he's too wealthy and busy being brainwashed. (No time)
- Go to Iran and pretend to be a journalist? Nah. (He knows they'd shoot him after one interview)
- I know, go on television and act like a nutball on Oprah and othe shows in the name of his cult. (Bingo)

I like Brook Shields, and thought it was cool she went and got her College Degree from Marquette U.
She's real, and keeps it that way.

[wdlove]

Actors in general are spoiled brats that never grew up. Good for Brooke, depression is a serious illness.

[Weyland-Yutani]

No drugs known to man can cure depression.

cheers

W-Y

[budster101]

Humor helps. The internet. Family & Friends. Pets.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

No drugs known to man can cure depression.

cheers

W-Y

Not cure, but treat. By breaking the negative cycle of thought reinforcing negative biochemical messengers, drugs CAN help reduce the severity of depression and help therapists treat the physical and emotional causes of the depression.

A friend of mine committed suicide because of postpartum depression, and I wish she'd had the treatment needed to moderate that depression. Having been clinically depressed myself, I can tell you that while drugs are not a silver bullet, when properly prescribed, they are a powerful tool in helping the patient get past crises.

[budster101]

My wife works in a Doctor's Office and this is very serious and at the first sign of anything, they act fast and medicate, as well as send her to another doctor for care while she goes through this. It's very serious, and medication does help.

Very very sorry to hear about your friend. We've had many friends that have had various stages of this, and it does pass.

Tom Cruise was incredibly incensitive to this issue and I think he is actually a bit manic based on my observation and would do well to get something for this. He was acting very strange. (No pun)

I think that cult is really having an effect on him.

[The Godfather]

Tom Cruise is the male Britney Spears. What a clown.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by TomR

Tom Cruise is an asshat. Nicole was smart to dump his sorry butt.

She is a Scientologist too supposably.

[SimpleLife]

Although mild depression can be cured by simple psychotherapy and lots of physical exercises, stronger cases require both medication and psychotherapy.

The foolishi things to do that are occuring way too often is:

1) medication provided to mild cases and no counselling whatsoever because it is too much and
2) medication provided to strong cases with no counselling whatsoever because medication is never enough

Depression requires some inner processes at the cognitive level to change and support which is often lost because of the state of mind. People tend to get away from the depressed so the depressed become isolated, which is making it even more difficult to recover.

[ManOfSteal]

Hollywood d-r-a-m-a!

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally Posted by Krusty

He'd probably condemn it. I just found a migraine website that suggests the following types of treatment:

I'm guessing he'd recommend anything EXCEPT the first item on the list with the defense that people had migraines and coped with them somehow before the drugs were invented.

Sure did... many just went insane... or killed themselves.

My sister tried EVERYTHING. Exercise, stress reduction, etc. etc. and nothing worked. Even the medication didn't work that well... eventually medication + diet + time did the trick.

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by SimpleLife

Although mild depression can be cured by simple psychotherapy and lots of physical exercises, stronger cases require both medication and psychotherapy.

The foolishi things to do that are occuring way too often is:

1) medication provided to mild cases and no counselling whatsoever because it is too much and
2) medication provided to strong cases with no counselling whatsoever because medication is never enough

Depression requires some inner processes at the cognitive level to change and support which is often lost because of the state of mind. People tend to get away from the depressed so the depressed become isolated, which is making it even more difficult to recover.

[Kevin]

Look up the name Barbara Schwarz in Google.

She posts in the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup.

All the Scientology people in there make sure to try their best to find your REAL name.

And when they do, they will use it in every lie they say.

The full name.

For example.

You are a liar Jim Smith.

I see you collect child porn also Jim Smith.

They do this for people who search your name on Google.

Real creepy stuff.

[RonnieoftheRose]

Originally Posted by KevinK

Look up the name Barbara Schwarz in Google.

She posts in the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup.

All the Scientology people in there make sure to try their best to find your REAL name.

And when they do, they will use it in every lie they say.

The full name.

For example.

You are a liar Jim Smith.

I see you collect child porn also Jim Smith.

They do this for people who search your name on Google.

Real creepy stuff.

Sick ****s. Someone did that to me years ago when I was new to the internet and didn't know about aliases. Some Rightwing Florida based neonazis hacked my Windows peecee and posted under my name and doctored expired posts of my mine. Deja didn't help me remove the offending posts because they were being sold to Google at the time. Google couldn't help because, in their words:

'By its very nature, Usenet consists of information posted by many people.
Google does not monitor or control the content of this information.
Instead, we simply provide access to the public forum in which people post
their comments.

Accordingly, if you are concerned about a message that someone has posted,
you need to resolve that problem directly with the person who posted it.
We firmly believe it is not Google's role to resolve disputes among the
users who have posted millions of messages on Usenet, nor would it be
possible to fulfill that role if we chose to undertake it.

It is Google's policy to respond to notices of alleged infringement that
comply with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in an appropriate manner
under such Act and other applicable intellectual property laws, including
the removal or disabling of access to material claimed to be the subject
of infringing activity. For more information, see our Terms of Service at
http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html

We are sorry we cannot assist you further at this time.'

So Google doesn't care what those Scientologists are doing either.

[Kevin]

Ronnie I have been doing some "fair play" of my own.

Something to do With Barbara Schwarz, Tom Cruise, and a box full of hamsters.

[RonnieoftheRose]

Fair play? I sometimes wonder if some religious or rightwing group may have manipulated someone to hurt me...badly.


Anyway, I just love the names of some cookies some sites create:

[Superchicken]

Originally Posted by TomR

It's another mind control cult like all religions.

'nuff said?

You mistake an abusive organization behind a belief system as a religion. You further go on to show your ignorance by suggesting that all religions are like this. Wonder who you've let feed you misinformation? Apparently you're in as bad a situation as Mr. Cruise.... only he's better looking.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by TomR

It's another mind control cult like all religions.

'nuff said?

Maybe to the simple minded.

[Krusty]

Originally Posted by Mitchell_pgh

Sure did... many just went insane... or killed themselves.

My sister tried EVERYTHING. Exercise, stress reduction, etc. etc. and nothing worked. Even the medication didn't work that well... eventually medication + diet + time did the trick.

Hey dude, I was just answering your question about how Tom Cruise would probably respond to it. I know zilch about migraines and what really will or won't cure them.

Originally Posted by Superchicken

You mistake an abusive organization behind a belief system as a religion. You further go on to show your ignorance by suggesting that all religions are like this. Wonder who you've let feed you misinformation? Apparently you're in as bad a situation as Mr. Cruise.... only he's better looking.

[edit]
From what I now understand, this thread is a not a religion flame war. So I shall cease and desist from my original comments. Move along, nothing to see here [/edit]

[analogika]

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[AKcrab]

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[mitchell_pgh]

Originally Posted by Krusty

Hey dude, I was just answering your question about how Tom Cruise would probably respond to it. I know zilch about migraines and what really will or won't cure them.

I was yelling at Tom/Scientology... sorry

[Eug Wanker]

P.S. My sister ran into Brooke Shields at Nobu in NY. She said Shields was gorgeous in real-life, and very nice too.

[Warung]

He insisted that there was no such thing as chemical imbalances that need to be corrected with drugs and that depression could be treated with exercise and vitamins.

[budster101]

The same guy said this while having a manic episode on Oprah. Yeah, how are them vitamins Tom? And that exercise is doing wonders for your depression...

Someone should bitch slap that guy and his entire 'religion'.

[Kevin]

buster you really need to start posting at alt.religion.scientology



Some real nutbags there.

[budster101]

They'd hunt me down and force me to take vitamins and workout.... Wait.

[starman]

I wonder if there's any Advil in the Cruise household.